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Question: Would Democrats be driving Northam from office for his Yearbook Page if the Lt. Gov was a Republican?
#1
Yes, of course, they're Massive FFs
 
#2
No, of course; they're not going to let a Republican undo what they've accomplished.
 
#3
They'd be deeply divided on the issue.
 
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Total Voters: 139

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« on: February 01, 2019, 07:21:05 PM »

Sad to hear. Well, at least we get Fairfax out of this.

Perellio should have won.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 01:23:37 PM »

Why are people tying this to Kavanaugh? Just view this case by the facts present.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 01:38:53 PM »

Fairfax supporters are alleging that Northam is behind the accusations being made public:



Huh, very interesting. If this is the case, then Northam is even worse than I thought, but I was under the impression that the two had a great relationship.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 01:53:06 PM »

Seriously, Kavanaugh has very little to do with this. Just base this case off of the facts present. If anything, this case is closer to the Ellison one than the Kavanaugh one, anyway.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2019, 02:48:23 PM »
« Edited: February 04, 2019, 03:10:06 PM by Senator Zaybay »

Sadly, there is really no proof towards either side, so this really is just a "He said, She said".

And, if it is just "He said, She said", then this will end up like Kavanaugh, and Fairfax will likely either stay as Lt. Gov, or be promoted to Governor.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 04:05:00 PM »

It would be much more careful, and much slower. I do think that he would be called to resign, to which its his choice on whether he does or not, but thats really the big shift. Instead of a flood, its a slower flow.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2019, 03:22:18 PM »

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2019, 07:55:54 PM »

I seriously have no idea whats going on.

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2019, 08:48:18 PM »

My mind has been reduced to gelatin from all this...
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2019, 12:54:57 PM »

Gonna be honest, I dont think anything will change. I dont see neither Northam, Fairfax, nor Herring resigning. Its gonna be in the news for some time, perhaps a week or two, but Im pretty sure nothing will come of it.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2019, 12:56:45 PM »

Dont know how believable this is, but Ill still post it:

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2019, 12:59:06 PM »

Pretty sure no one is going to resign. It looks like all three are just going to ride out the storm.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2019, 10:47:09 PM »

Hearing around from my non political circles, people who just watch local news... There's a lot of skepticism around the Fairfax stuff. 'Why did she wait so long', 'How can you force oral', 'Why didn't she bite?' Think a lot more people are more nuanced on the MeToo stuff than most people in the media think.

This is what rape culture looks like. Congratulations.

Im sorry, this has been bothering me. Werent you the poster who was standing by Kavanaugh and proclaiming his innocence? You also had him as your sig for a long time.
Seems a bit hypocritical that you would suddenly flip in a rather similar situation
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 09:18:30 AM »

I do have an update for this case.

Apparently, there is a discrepancy in both Lt. Fairfax's and Dr. Tyson's statements. Fairfax claims that Dr. Tyson and him stayed in contact for many months afterward, while Dr. Tyson claims that that day was the last they had communicated with each other.

This should be verifiable, and it mostly lies on Fairfax to obtain proof of contact.

I dunno, this seems like a step up from the current "She said, He said" dilemma we are in on this case. Tongue
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2019, 11:03:01 AM »


Eh, from an optics standpoint, it looks bad, but then again, I dont believe anyone will remember/care a month from now who the law firms on each side are.

From a legal standpoint, its a pretty smart move. I mean, these are the same guys who were able to get Brett to the Supreme Court for a rather similar accusation. If anyone can get Fairfax off the hook, it would be these guys. And, in the end, thats really what matters. Voters will forget about who Fairfax hired, they will remember if he is either convicted or exonerated.

Thats just my opinion, though. Tongue
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2019, 12:12:34 PM »



Either Fairfax is incredibly dumb, or he's innocent on this issue.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2019, 01:15:46 PM »

I give up
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2019, 10:26:57 AM »

Referring to the quote, 3 other sources, including his Chief of staff(not a very good source, IMO) came out and said that just "F***" was said.

Anyway, I have no idea who to believe. Im hoping the two sides can just start the legal case already so we can finally get some facts and answers.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 04:32:27 PM »

At this point, I believe a special election for a new Governor and Lt Governor would be an optimal solution.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2019, 06:38:31 PM »

Yep, looks like its over for Fairfax.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2019, 06:46:19 PM »

It's ironic that what began as a blackface scandal will end in the resignation of the state's black Lieutenant Governor, while the white Governor and Attorney General get off. The optics of this definitely are not good for the Democrats.

Eh, wont matter at all. Sexual Assault is a rather serious crime, and everyone will have forgotten about this most likely in a months time.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 03:25:20 PM »

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 05:38:35 PM »

I mean, not really noteworthy or surprising. BDSers ran in 2018/2016 as well.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2019, 12:35:28 PM »

Things are heating up. Fairfax is pulling something close to an Ellison, and asking the FBI to investigate him.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/429298-fairfax-calls-on-fbi-to-investigate-sexual-assault-allegations-against
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,065
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2019, 09:39:30 PM »

I do believe that impeachment proceedings is going way too far, especially considering this isnt like Kavanaugh. With him, his confirmation was in literal days, and so everything had to be rushed, including a proper investigation. With Fairfax, we can take our time to investigate. There is no urgent pressure, and there is not some sort of negative to keeping him on for the 2019 elections(the only reason I can think of for forcing him out now). If Fairfax doesnt want to be investigated as a Private Citizen, fine, but there must be an in-depth investigation to either exonerate or condemn him.


Also, Wolverine, please cut it out. We dont know if the allegations are fake or real, and they should be treated as reputable until the investigation closes.
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