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« Reply #375 on: March 08, 2011, 04:01:34 PM »
« edited: March 08, 2011, 04:07:09 PM by cinyc »

Its Indian population fell? Lol. What's going on here?

California has a huge number of reservations but most of them are tiny. It also has a lot of people of (often part) native Californian descent who are not members of any recognized sovereign nation and who usually pass as Chicanos for most of their daily lives - a lot of them identify as Native American on Census records though, or at least did in 2000. Actually, quite a few offrez-residing recognized California natives do the same thing.
And needless to say, it has huge numbers of whites with a part Indian great-grandparent, or Whites with an Indian grandparent who're actually registered members of an Indian nation, or Whites with a false family tradition of Indian ancestry somewhere deep in the recesses of the 19th or 18th century. A lot of whom report as Native or more commonly as White and Native. But if those reporting practices were changing, we would have seen that in stats for other states as well, wouldn't we?

I think you answered your own question.  California's NON-HISPANIC American Indian population fell.  Its overall American Indian population rose by 8.8%.  So did its overall White population (+6.4%) for that matter.  

When Hispanicness matters more than Nativeness in the racial classifications of the day, that's the result you end up getting.

I should have made the non-Hispanic part clearer in my original post.  I've since edited it.

The only counties that lost population were Alpine, Sierra and Plumas.  Placer County near Sacramento isn't among the top 20 largest counties of the state, but grew by more than 25%.
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« Reply #376 on: March 08, 2011, 04:11:38 PM »

Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Ohio were shipped today.  They are expected to be released around 2PM Eastern tomorrow.
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« Reply #377 on: March 08, 2011, 04:18:38 PM »

Alpine lost population? It has only 1200 people... and that's after some reasonably robust growth in the last few decades. It also has utterly bizarre demographics - it's, like, half Mormon and quarter Peyotist. With no other established place of worship existing in the county (any practicing mainstream Christians probably drive elsewhere.)
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« Reply #378 on: March 08, 2011, 04:29:05 PM »

Alpine lost population? It has only 1200 people... and that's after some reasonably robust growth in the last few decades. It also has utterly bizarre demographics - it's, like, half Mormon and quarter Peyotist. With no other established place of worship existing in the county (any practicing mainstream Christians probably drive elsewhere.)

Alpine's population fell from 1,208 to 1,175 (-2.7%).  At least that was better than the 2009 estimate - 1,041.  Sierra fell from 3,555 to 3,240 (-8.9%).  That was better than the 2009 estimate - 3,174.   Plumas fell from to 20,824 to 20,007 (-3.9%).  Its 2009 estimate was fairly accurate, but off on the high side - 20,122.

FWIW, Placer County grew by 40.3%, slightly slower than Riverside.  It picked up just over 100,000 new residents.
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« Reply #379 on: March 08, 2011, 04:37:22 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2011, 04:41:21 PM by new, improved Lewis Trondheim »

That rate of growth means LA County loses almost an entire district. (From 14.9 to 14.0.)



Looking at the California racial table, I realize that the detailed count of tribal identifications from the 2000 Census did not include any Hispanic data - that is, people who identified as Indian only on the race question, wrote in one of the relevant California tribal groupings (Chumash, Diegueno, what have you), and also checked Hispanic Origin would have been undistinguishable in that table from those who did not identify as Hispanic. Given the large numbers of Cherokee, Sioux, Blackfeet (why is Blackfeet such a popular identity with fake Indians? That would be worth a study...) in the state, and the fact that half its Indian population also identifies as Hispanic makes you wonder if most of the California Natives of that class that I described above weren't already being counted as Hispanic. Though maybe it was most before and almost all now, who knows. One would have to take a very close look at community-level figures to find out. (of course, a lot of those Native Hispanic repliers are Mexican Indigenas. Interesting factoid: Mexicans living near Indian reservations are somewhat more likely to identify as Indian - perhaps the presence of Natives in the vicinity raises self-awareness of Native ancestry?)

The non-hispanic Native alone or in combination population also rose, just barely. So 17,000 new part-Indian identifiers, despite the Anglo population also falling. Hmmm... Smiley
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« Reply #380 on: March 08, 2011, 04:46:26 PM »

The drop from 14.9 to 14 has to mean that a Dem loses a district, right? I don't know if the Republicans living in LA County can be drawn out so easily
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« Reply #381 on: March 08, 2011, 04:49:00 PM »

The drop from 14.9 to 14 has to mean that a Dem loses a district, right? I don't know if the Republicans living in LA County can be drawn out so easily
No, no it doesn't. Not necessarily, anyways. Dreier's district hugging the hills is a gerrymandered monstrosity and quite marginal even as is - though congressional patterns in that kind of area lag presidential ones. And Rohrabacher's strange appendage into LA County won't survive the new redistricting law, he'll go back to OC where he belongs. Which also loses a quarter district.
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« Reply #382 on: March 08, 2011, 05:38:09 PM »

Various numbers!

California is 40.1% Non Hispanic White and 37.6% Hispanic. With 12.8% being non-Hispanic Asian (0.2% is Hispanic Asian).

Alameda County is 26% Asian, Contra Costa is 14.4% Asian, Los Angeles County is 13.7% Asian, Orange County is 17.9% Asian, Sacramento is 14% Asian, San Francisco is 33.3% Asian, San Mateo is 24.8% Asian, Santa Clara is 32% Asian. (Other 10%+ Asian counties are San Diego, San Joaquin, Solano, Sutter, and Yolo Counties)

Hispanic majority counties: Colusa, Fresno, Imperial (80%), Kings, Madera, Merced, Monterey, San Benito, and Tulare

10%+ African American Counties: Alameda, Sacramento, Solano
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« Reply #383 on: March 08, 2011, 05:43:19 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2011, 05:45:00 PM by cinyc »

FWIW - and probably not much, given that the California redistricting panel will be drawing completely new lines - best I can tell from trying to import the data into Excel (which caused an error):

CA-3, 4, 11, 21, 22, 25, 41, 44, 45 and 49 are significantly overpopulated (by 70,000 or more residents).  CA-25 (Santa Clarita, Antelope and part of Victor Valleys), 44 and 45 (Inland Empire) are the most over, by 140,000+ residents.  (CA-25 is 211,000 over.)  All three are held by Republicans.  

CA-31 in Los Angeles County is the most under, needing over 91,500 new residents.  CA-7, 9, 12, 14, 29, 32, 33, 38, 46, 47 all need more than 40,000 new residents.

CA-1, 2, 5 and 23 are within 7,500 residents of ideal, CA-1 the most ideal (+1107).
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« Reply #384 on: March 08, 2011, 08:53:43 PM »

Its Indian population fell? Lol. What's going on here?

California has a huge number of reservations but most of them are tiny. It also has a lot of people of (often part) native Californian descent who are not members of any recognized sovereign nation and who usually pass as Chicanos for most of their daily lives - a lot of them identify as Native American on Census records though, or at least did in 2000. Actually, quite a few offrez-residing recognized California natives do the same thing.
And needless to say, it has huge numbers of whites with a part Indian great-grandparent, or Whites with an Indian grandparent who're actually registered members of an Indian nation, or Whites with a false family tradition of Indian ancestry somewhere deep in the recesses of the 19th or 18th century. A lot of whom report as Native or more commonly as White and Native. But if those reporting practices were changing, we would have seen that in stats for other states as well, wouldn't we?
I'd bet a lot of those were Okies, where it has become less clear what the relationship was over time.  The summary lumps everyone who reports two or more races into one group.

In 2010 in California, a majority (55%) of those who report they are AIAN alone are Hispanic.

The non-Hispanic White+AIAN population is up 4.4% from 134K to 140K
Non-Hispanic AIAN is down from 179K to 162K
NH Black+AIAN up 15.8% from 22K to 26K
NH W+B+AIAN up 49.8% from 16K to 24K
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« Reply #385 on: March 08, 2011, 10:34:17 PM »

Alpine lost population? It has only 1200 people... and that's after some reasonably robust growth in the last few decades. It also has utterly bizarre demographics - it's, like, half Mormon and quarter Peyotist. With no other established place of worship existing in the county (any practicing mainstream Christians probably drive elsewhere.)

It also votes for Democrats, against parental notification for abortions, and for legalized pot. The fact that they're losing population might mean that it'll be a while before they get a black.
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« Reply #386 on: March 08, 2011, 10:47:23 PM »

There was some significant white-flight from Alameda county, it lost 8% of whites. But what was even bigger was black-flight, which was 12%. Despite all of this, Alameda county grew by 5% thanks to gains in other races, including Asians increasing by 34% to 26% of the county population.
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« Reply #387 on: March 09, 2011, 12:13:50 AM »

In the category of self redefinition

Lost Hills CDP, California
2000: 71.83% Some Other Race, 96.75% Hispanic
2010: 92.54% Some Other Race, 97.6% Hispanic

SORs are Hispanic in 99% of instances, but the SOR percentage is 45% of the Hispanic percentage in most instances.

Hispanics in California are 46.37% White, 44.47% Some Other Race, 6.04% Two+ Races, 1.43% American Indian, 0.97% Black, 0.61% Asian, and 0.11% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander.

The only other CDPs to have over 70% Some Other Race were Oasis (71.51%) and Yettem (70.14%).

On the reverse of that. Cowan CDP had 50.6% Hispanic, but 10.06% Some Other Race and 86% White.

Other low SOR Majority-Hispanic areas are Kings Beach CDP, Volta CDP, Poplar-Cotton Center CDP. All Under 15% SOR. Amongst Cities, Atwater is 52.57% Hispanic, and 18.82% Some Other Race.

Also, quite a few of the Majority Asian cities saw their Asian percentage go up by over 15%
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« Reply #388 on: March 09, 2011, 01:27:58 PM »

Alpine lost population? It has only 1200 people... and that's after some reasonably robust growth in the last few decades. It also has utterly bizarre demographics - it's, like, half Mormon and quarter Peyotist. With no other established place of worship existing in the county (any practicing mainstream Christians probably drive elsewhere.)

Reasonably robust growth? Alpine grew by at most a few dozen people 1980-2000.
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« Reply #389 on: March 09, 2011, 01:48:18 PM »

It's called "misremembering". Basically my brain plotted its 1970-2000 growth as evenly distributed. Tongue
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« Reply #390 on: March 09, 2011, 01:51:41 PM »

True, it exploded in population in 1970. No idea why, but maybe you know.
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« Reply #391 on: March 09, 2011, 02:30:05 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 03:47:20 PM by cinyc »

Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Ohio are out.

Connecticut
At a macro level, there isn't a ton of change to report about the counties or top 20 cities/towns of Connecticut.  The top 10 cities remain the same.  Bridgeport is the largest municipality, growing by 3.4%.  New Haven (+5.0%) and Hartford (+2.6%) are next, followed by Stamford (+4.7%) and Waterbury (+2.9%).  All of those 5 cities but New Haven have more Hispanic residents than African-Americans (even before taking into account Hispanic status) - I'm not sure whether this was also true in 2000. Among the top 20 municipalities, only Middletown (+10.4%), Danbury (+8.1%) and Hamden (+7.1%) experienced anything close to rapid growth - and that's being charitable.  West Hartford lost 0.7% of its population.  Greenwich (+0.1%), Bristol (+0.7%) and Milford (+0.9%) barely grew.  By comparison, the state grew 4.9%.

Connecticut's counties don't matter much, as there is no county government.  Nevertheless, Tolland, east of Hartford, grew the fastest (+12.0%), followed by Windham in the quiet (northeast) corner (+8.6%) and central Middlesex (+6.5%) and southeast coastal New London (+5.8%).  Growth in the other four counties was less than the statewide average (3.9% to 4.7%).

Connecticut's non-Hispanic white population fell by 3.5%.  It's Hispanic population grew by 49.6%, its non-Hispanic Asian population by 64.4% and its non-Hispanic African American population by 13.4%

Pennsylvania
Synopsis: Philly is flat; Pittsburgh (-8.6%) and Western PA lose big time; Lehigh Valley, Amish Country, Harrisburg area and some Philly Suburbs grow.  Tiny Forest County grows the fastest in the state; NYC exurbs in Pike and Monroe Counties grow next fastest, but not in top 20 list.  2.2% of Non-Hispanic whites flee the state.

Ohio
Synopsis: All of the top 10 cities other than Columbus (+10.6%) lose population, Youngstown (-18.3%) Cleveland (-17.1%) and Dayton (-14.8%) and Cincinnati (-10.4%) by double digits.   Columbus-area counties grow the most, especially Delaware (+58.4%).  Hamilton County (Cincy) loses population (-5.1%), but some neighboring counties like Warren (+34.3%) grow.  Northeast Ohio... Yikes!  1.9% of Non-Hispanic whites flee Ohio.

More to come.
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« Reply #392 on: March 09, 2011, 03:07:13 PM »

Is Forest County, PA a typo or did the population really double while every county around it lost population?
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« Reply #393 on: March 09, 2011, 03:13:27 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 03:15:38 PM by cinyc »

Is Forest County, PA a typo or did the population really double while every county around it lost population?

I don't think it's a typo.  Four words: Marcellus Natural Gas Shale.  It might have been where the most drilling interest was last April.  That, plus the fact that it was the smallest county in the state with a population of less than 5,000 makes it easy for a small number of new residents to cause a big swing that isn't quite as big in real numbers.
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« Reply #394 on: March 09, 2011, 04:33:20 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 04:36:57 PM by Sheliak5 »

Here's a national gain/loss map so far.

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« Reply #395 on: March 09, 2011, 04:54:58 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 04:56:54 PM by Verily »

Is Forest County, PA a typo or did the population really double while every county around it lost population?

I don't think it's a typo.  Four words: Marcellus Natural Gas Shale.  It might have been where the most drilling interest was last April.  That, plus the fact that it was the smallest county in the state with a population of less than 5,000 makes it easy for a small number of new residents to cause a big swing that isn't quite as big in real numbers.

I seem to remember something about a big prison complex opening in Forest County. Estimates have had it growing rapidly since at least 2007 (when I made a map of growth estimates by county, and I remember Forest County being estimated to be growing anomalously fast then, too).
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« Reply #396 on: March 09, 2011, 05:09:55 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienville,_Pennsylvania

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« Reply #397 on: March 09, 2011, 05:18:06 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 05:29:31 PM by cinyc »

Is Forest County, PA a typo or did the population really double while every county around it lost population?

I don't think it's a typo.  Four words: Marcellus Natural Gas Shale.  It might have been where the most drilling interest was last April.  That, plus the fact that it was the smallest county in the state with a population of less than 5,000 makes it easy for a small number of new residents to cause a big swing that isn't quite as big in real numbers.

I seem to remember something about a big prison complex opening in Forest County. Estimates have had it growing rapidly since at least 2007 (when I made a map of growth estimates by county, and I remember Forest County being estimated to be growing anomalously fast then, too).

Yeah, that would do it, especially when the county was very small to begin with.

Sheliak5 - Thanks for the map.  Northeast Ohio doesn't look that bad compared to say, central South Dakota or Western Kansas.  But Cuyahoga County probably lost more residents (about 110,000) than live in those areas.

Arizona, Idaho and Wisconsin will be released around 3PM tomorrow.
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« Reply #398 on: March 09, 2011, 09:12:19 PM »

Nice work, Sheilak5! I was wondering whether someone would work on a map like that.
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« Reply #399 on: March 09, 2011, 09:43:12 PM »

Here's a national gain/loss map so far.



Is that keyed relative to 2000 or to the average gain from 2000 to 2010?
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