The Hofoid House of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

obviously TR then Lincoln. Both would obviously be Democrats today.

Im not sure about that, as the current politician that most like both those Presidents are Republicans .


Most like TR is John McCain


Most like Lincoln is Bruce Rauner

The distortion of TR's legacy continues it seems. And fu'cking Bruce Rauner as any comparison to Abraham Lincoln is laughable.

Ok Rauner was a bad comparison but Lincoln would be most like a moderate Republican today(and since Rauner was one and from Illinois i made that comparison)

Ah yes. The party that defends the Confederacy and their traitor statues and goes berserk when black people kneel would be a great fit for a modern day Lincoln.

Not to mention the Lincoln that said that "Labor was prior to capital" and corresponded with Marx.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but I am led to believe that Marx simply wrote him a letter of congratulations upon his 1860 victory. And I believe noted social democrat William McKinley was the next GOP nominee to place labor before capital.

It was Comrade Grover Cleveland who declared Labor Day a national holiday.

[Vespucci]

Democrats apparently don't like anyone who's not 100 percent pure communist so probably not

Exactly. In 2016, they nominated known communist Hillary Clinton!

[RINO Tom]

obviously TR then Lincoln. Both would obviously be Democrats today.

Im not sure about that, as the current politician that most like both those Presidents are Republicans .


Most like TR is John McCain


Most like Lincoln is Bruce Rauner

The distortion of TR's legacy continues it seems. And fu'cking Bruce Rauner as any comparison to Abraham Lincoln is laughable.

Ok Rauner was a bad comparison but Lincoln would be most like a moderate Republican today(and since Rauner was one and from Illinois i made that comparison)

Ah yes. The party that defends the Confederacy and their traitor statues and goes berserk when black people kneel would be a great fit for a modern day Lincoln.

Not to mention the Lincoln that said that "Labor was prior to capital" and corresponded with Marx.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but I am led to believe that Marx simply wrote him a letter of congratulations upon his 1860 victory. And I believe noted social democrat William McKinley was the next GOP nominee to place labor before capital.

Even though I think you're "Lincoln might be a Democrat today" thinking to be misguided, you're way too smart to get into this debate with the quoted posters.  Go do something better.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Political parties/ideological factions jumping to claim the hypothetical loyalties of historical figures is hilarious and also really idiotic.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The guy just buys too much snake oil. He tries to come across as this "hip/cool" contrarian but ends up just boot-licking the most powerful man on Earth.

That said, he definitely has had some good moments.

The contemporary counter-culture is in the Trump camp bro.

[RINO Tom]

^ Lazyyyyyyy, bro.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Thinking about things more, the fact that sex segregated prisons seem like such a rape risk implies a problem with society in of itself (ie If we can't trust people to be in mixed prisons without serious problems, our culture has a pretty nasty streak through it).

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Thinking about things more, the fact that sex segregated prisons seem like such a rape risk implies a problem with society in of itself (ie If we can't trust people to be in mixed prisons without serious problems, our culture has a pretty nasty streak through it).

WUT

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Wow someone is f[inks]ing clueless. This shows zero understanding of how California elections work:

HP unless your pro Iraq war, pro bush tax cuts and hate marijuana. She's just overall way too conservative for her state, if she doesn't lose the primary she will probably lose the general.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Wow someone is f[inks]ing clueless. This shows zero understanding of how California elections work:

HP unless your pro Iraq war, pro bush tax cuts and hate marijuana. She's just overall way too conservative for her state, if she doesn't lose the primary she will probably lose the general.

Yeah, that's a particularly absurd brand of self-absorbed leftism.

[TheSaint250]

DeSantis has a really good chance. The GOP is being emptied out to the point that the only people left in the party are mostly older, angrier, and whiter electorate. The 90s Bush era Conservatism is long gone; this is now the reactionary party of Trump. The GOP Establishment is unable to control the monster they've created, that's why they've been fighting back against extremist candidates like Roy Moore, McDaniels, EW Jackson,etc... There's nobody left participating in the party except old racists

[TheLeftwardTide]

I think mostly we all just overestimated the American people.

[Kingpoleon]

Wasn't George Wallace pretty much a segregationist (and socially conservative) Bernie Sanders?

This isn't as absurd as it seems on the surface. Wallace was fairly progressive on economic issues.

...He was conservative to the core.



Let's dispel the fiction that Dixiecrats were "economically progressive."  Even during the New Deal, Southern Democrats aided the GOP in opposing FDR's programs.  Most of the Democrat party bosses who controlled the region didn't like black or white poors.

Democrats controlled an entire region; to say that all of them were "economically progressive" OR economically conservative would be dumb.  There was obviously a spectrum.  However, Southern Democrats only began to oppose the New Deal once it was solidly in place and seen as helping Blacks a tad too much.  There weren't any Southern Democrats opposing the initiatives in the first few years.  It's disingenuous to insinuate they were pretty much just voting exactly like Republicans.

To be fair, the Republican Party at a national level wasn't necessarily monolithically "conservative" back then (certainly not in the post-WWII, "movement conservative" sense) as it is today. Then again, as you noted, the Democrats 100% controlled via Jim Crow practices and memories of Lincoln and Reconstruction an entire region - the very same region in which the Republicans are hegemonic today (and among the same demographic - said region's white voters are the largest, most consistent, and most monolithically "conservative" regional bloc of Republican voters in the way in which most people use the term post-WWII, post-Goldwater/Wallace/Nixon/Reagan/Gingrich and yes, in our current Age of Trump). 

Good luck finding any Rockefeller/Dewey/(George)Romney/Scranton-style Republicans in that region at any point in American history (unless you count the almost-forgotten first crop of Southern Republicans during Reconstruction, ironically enough! ).

Also, keep in mind the kinds of Southern Democrats who tended to chair and control Congressional Committees, which were of course much more powerful fiefdoms back then. Those Dixiecrats certainly weren't what you'd call bleeding hearts, needless to say...

Robb Ryerse, Winthrop Rockefeller, Winthrop P. Rockefeller, Linwood Holton, Mills Godwin, John Dalton, Howard Baker, Jay Dardenne, and many, many others would be surprised to hear this news.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Whether you like him or not, guy's 13-year track record in Congress should outweigh how he got the seat 20 to 1 at least.

But his record in Congress is awful?

His record in Congress involves bringing a train station to his district just this past year, along with leadership on transportation issues (his district includes some rail yards too, atop all of that). How is that awful?

[TheSaint250]

Got another one for the thread:

DeSantis has a really good chance. The GOP is being emptied out to the point that the only people left in the party are mostly older, angrier, and whiter electorate. The 90s Bush era Conservatism is long gone; this is now the reactionary party of Trump. The GOP Establishment is unable to control the monster they've created, that's why they've been fighting back against extremist candidates like Roy Moore, McDaniels, EW Jackson,etc... There's nobody left participating in the party except old racists

What? The only thing wrong about this is that he left out “young racists” too.

The Simple Truths thread is —-> that way

[TheSaint250]

Your team is of course the Republican party, the party of pedophilia and thinly veiled fascism.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

His record in Congress involves bringing a train station to his district just this past year, along with leadership on transportation issues (his district includes some rail yards too, atop all of that). How is that awful?

"On the one hand, he's an amoral monster who supports all the horrid policies advanced by the Republicans. On the other, he managed to secure part of the money to refurbish the second-largest Metra station in La Grange."

You have a severe case of Lipinski Derangement Syndrome. Why else would you be spreading this fake news?

SJoyce is being too generous here; from a quick count there's at least a handful of sitting Republican house members who are more progressive on LGBT rights than Lipinski.

Heck Mark Kirk has a more liberal record than him on gay rights; if you're a Democrat, and the former Republican senator from your own state is more LGBT friendly you should expect a primary challenge.

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It is ludicrous primarying him solely on the basis of this issue.
There are plenty of terrible GOP policies out there. The wording 'all the horrid policies advanced by the Republicans' is not just clumsy phrasing, it's bordering outright lying.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Don't worry, like half of atlas is gay/bi/pan/ace/etc

Most of those don't exist but yes to be fair like 85% of Atlas is functionally asexual.

Ability to make snappy quips and intelligence are only loosely correlated.

[TheSaint250]

The hits keep on coming:

Your team is of course the Republican party, the party of pedophilia and thinly veiled fascism.

Delusional RINO at it again. Simple truths thread is —->that way

[Santander]

The hits keep on coming:

Your team is of course the Republican party, the party of pedophilia and thinly veiled fascism.

Delusional RINO at it again. Simple truths thread is —->that way

Wrong thread, RINO.

[TheSaint250]

The hits keep on coming:

Your team is of course the Republican party, the party of pedophilia and thinly veiled fascism.

Delusional RINO at it again. Simple truths thread is —->that way

Wrong thread, RINO.

Nah, I’m still right.

[Dr. MB]

Only a ticket with zero white males will satisfy me.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Identity politics is the definition of this question. How about what people are on the actual issues?

3rd wayers do their best to avoid the issues, because they suck so badly on them.

You are both completely off base, but you are both white males so anything that remotely revolves around representation for other groups must seem foreign to you. If you really think advocating for a racially or gender diverse ticket means putting some unqualified, incompetent hack that "sucks on the issues" on board then you aren't wrapped too tight.

[YE]

Alex was getting too close to the truth. He was right about The Memo. He was right about chemicals in the water turning kids trans. The powers-that-be couldn't have him exposing any more inconvenient truths so they did what they typically do and RoyMoored him.

[TheSaint250]

The hits keep on coming:

Your team is of course the Republican party, the party of pedophilia and thinly veiled fascism.

Delusional RINO at it again. Simple truths thread is —->that way

Wrong thread, RINO.

Nah, I’m still right.

See, NOW this should go in Simple Truths.