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« on: February 06, 2019, 10:45:13 PM »

She's one of the Democrats I'd consider voting for.

Harris, Warren, Buttgieg, and Booker are just plain awful.  Delaney is a joke.  (Is he still running?)
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2019, 07:02:08 PM »

presidential candidates from MN dont have a good track record

That's because the Southern States were what the Democrats had to crack in order to win in the past. 

The Midwest is the critical region now, and the Democrats need to run the table.  MN is soft D.  Klobuchar helps shore this up.

Klobuchar is one of the Democrats I'd consider voting for.  I haven't decided to vote for Trump yet, and Klobuchar is a grown-up who could actually do the job.  I would certainly prefer her to Warren, Harris, and Booker, not to mention some others who are simply not going to be able to win (e. g. Castro). 
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2019, 11:27:57 PM »

Klobuchar has the strongest electability case and I want a democratic Senate! I'm donating today to her campaign.

I admit she's looked nervous in the past but her confidence is rapidly growing. Understandable since she has been on the national scene for all of 6 months.

I wholeheartedly agree with the underlined sentence.  I think it's actually kind of obvious, but folks seem to either not recognize it, or stubbornly deny it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 06:29:21 PM »

Is #Klobmentum the new dudeabides?
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2020, 01:43:16 PM »

What would it take for Klobuchar to be able to stay in the race after NH?

Results-wise, I would think it would require Klobuchar to pass Biden, catch up to Warren, and be closer to Buttigieg.  The clear trend in NH is toward Sanders, and that appears to be a bit at the expense of Mayor Pete.

One thing that would help is some last minute endorsements from folks who would be expected to back Biden, but who believe Biden is too old and too flawed (at this point) as a candidate.  Biden LOOKS old, and having his son and him being dragged into the impeachment drama was hardly rejuvenating.  Biden doesn't have a lot of prominent endorsements as of now; many of his endorsements are political figures, but rather obscure ones.  What if some major endorsements were to suddenly come Klobuchar's way?  It's kind of late for that, but NH is a primary, and lots of folks could change their minds at the last minute. 

That's what would have to happen.  Honestly, I don't know where that would come from.  I believe that part of the problem is there are a number of Anyone But Sanders Dems who have put their hopes in Biden, but who are looking to Bloomberg as their fallback plan.  And in terms of strategy, this is sound, to the extent that Bloomberg won't run out of money.  If Bloomberg weren't in the race, I believe that those looking to bolt Biden for a better candidate would have already been in Klobuchar's camp. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2020, 01:56:44 PM »

What would it take for Klobuchar to be able to stay in the race after NH?

Results-wise, I would think it would require Klobuchar to pass Biden, catch up to Warren, and be closer to Buttigieg.  The clear trend in NH is toward Sanders, and that appears to be a bit at the expense of Mayor Pete.

One thing that would help is some last minute endorsements from folks who would be expected to back Biden, but who believe Biden is too old and too flawed (at this point) as a candidate.  Biden LOOKS old, and having his son and him being dragged into the impeachment drama was hardly rejuvenating.  Biden doesn't have a lot of prominent endorsements as of now; many of his endorsements are political figures, but rather obscure ones.  What if some major endorsements were to suddenly come Klobuchar's way?  It's kind of late for that, but NH is a primary, and lots of folks could change their minds at the last minute. 

That's what would have to happen.  Honestly, I don't know where that would come from.  I believe that part of the problem is there are a number of Anyone But Sanders Dems who have put their hopes in Biden, but who are looking to Bloomberg as their fallback plan.  And in terms of strategy, this is sound, to the extent that Bloomberg won't run out of money.  If Bloomberg weren't in the race, I believe that those looking to bolt Biden for a better candidate would have already been in Klobuchar's camp. 

I trust Klobachar about as much as I trust Hillary.  Even Bloomberg would be better.

Klobuchar is, I believe, the most electable candidate in the race against Trump, except for (maybe) Bloomberg, and that's because of Bloomberg's immense fortune.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2020, 11:32:11 AM »

What would it take for Klobuchar to be able to stay in the race after NH?

Results-wise, I would think it would require Klobuchar to pass Biden, catch up to Warren, and be closer to Buttigieg.  The clear trend in NH is toward Sanders, and that appears to be a bit at the expense of Mayor Pete.

One thing that would help is some last minute endorsements from folks who would be expected to back Biden, but who believe Biden is too old and too flawed (at this point) as a candidate.  Biden LOOKS old, and having his son and him being dragged into the impeachment drama was hardly rejuvenating.  Biden doesn't have a lot of prominent endorsements as of now; many of his endorsements are political figures, but rather obscure ones.  What if some major endorsements were to suddenly come Klobuchar's way?  It's kind of late for that, but NH is a primary, and lots of folks could change their minds at the last minute. 

That's what would have to happen.  Honestly, I don't know where that would come from.  I believe that part of the problem is there are a number of Anyone But Sanders Dems who have put their hopes in Biden, but who are looking to Bloomberg as their fallback plan.  And in terms of strategy, this is sound, to the extent that Bloomberg won't run out of money.  If Bloomberg weren't in the race, I believe that those looking to bolt Biden for a better candidate would have already been in Klobuchar's camp. 

I trust Klobachar about as much as I trust Hillary.  Even Bloomberg would be better.

Klobuchar is, I believe, the most electable candidate in the race against Trump, except for (maybe) Bloomberg, and that's because of Bloomberg's immense fortune.

Part of what Pete and Bernie have going for them is that there are a significant number of folks that are excited about voting for them rather than simply against someone else.  Trump too has folks excited to vote for him.  I've seen no evidence that Klob is exciting folks in the same way.

I'd argue electability goes in the following order:

1. Pete
2. Bernie


3. Bloomberg




4. Biden



5. Klob
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You literally have it backwards.
Klob is first, Biden second, Bloomberg third, Sanders fourth and Pete five

"Maybe" to the highlighted part.  I do agree that Klobuchar is the most electable if you just gave her the nomination.

Klobuchar SHOULD be surging more than she is right now.  The reason she isn't is the specter of Michael Bloomberg in the background.  Bloomberg is a moderate with his own money to spend, and many Democrats are thinking that Bloomberg and his money are the last hope to beat Trump. 

Donors are loath to contribute to a candidate who stands to be overwhelmed soon afterward.  Voters in upcoming primaries on Super Tuesday are already getting a full view of Michael Bloomberg on TV; he has a head start over Klobuchar, who is just coming into focus as far as the average TV viewer goes.  If Bloomberg was not on the sideline to rescue the centrist Democrats from Biden tanking, Klobuchar would be having a greater surge than they are having now.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2020, 12:33:34 PM »

Klobuchar has, IMO, been the strongest GE candidate against Trump, and nothing has occurred to change my opinion on this. 

To be the leading challenger to Sanders, she needs to prevail over an aging VP who's got all sorts of well-earned bad publicity over age and Ukraine, a Mayor of a small city with no political experience at the level of Governor or Senator who is also openly gay and married (which no one knows how that will play in a GE), and a former billionaire Mayor of NYC who was a nominal Republican in office and whose history on criminal justice issues are bringing him all sorts of flak.  Her argument is that she checks all the boxes, and is a woman, to boot. 

I cannot imaging Mayor Pete, Bernie, or (Ugh!) Warren beating Trump.  I cannot imagine Biden beating Trump at this point; he's old and looks horrible.  Klobuchar has none of the negatives of the others, and has all of the positives one would want.  Plus, Amy Klobuchar was the ONLY Democrat who said she had a problem with socialism.  Beating Bernie will REQUIRE making the case against socialism, and the other candidates (save Bloomberg) have all compromised themselves.  (I'm not talking about Steyer, as I don't take him seriously.)  Klobuchar has both survived and surprised.  People like that. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2020, 06:41:21 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2020, 06:52:05 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.

Same, also for her.

I suspect one of these two is gonna just be a protest run like Kasich's campaign. If Biden doesn't win Oklahoma, I suspect she will.

She'll probably be what Sanders was in 2016.

I would not be shocked if Bloomberg asks Klobuchar to be his VP candidate as a jolt to his campaign.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2020, 07:19:58 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.

Same, also for her.

I suspect one of these two is gonna just be a protest run like Kasich's campaign. If Biden doesn't win Oklahoma, I suspect she will.

She'll probably be what Sanders was in 2016.

I would not be shocked if Bloomberg asks Klobuchar to be his VP candidate as a jolt to his campaign.

After all, eminently hatable scumbags with the charisma of a moldy wheel of cheese gotta stick together.

It would be the Moderate Hero ticket to stop Sanders that so many Dems are clamoring for to save the party from Sanders.  Although I suppose such a move would compel Biden to name Warren as HIS VP.  (And she'd accept; her campaign is dying.)
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