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« on: October 25, 2017, 11:05:38 AM »
« edited: October 29, 2017, 07:28:43 AM by Lechasseur »

Without hindsight it may have looked something like this:
1952: Adlai Stevenson
1956: Dwight Eisenhower(this would have been a hard one, without hindsight, at the time I would have been a Democrat and Stevenson is one of my favorite Democratic nominees but Eisenhower deserved reelection)
1960: John F. Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson

1968: Richard Nixon
1972: Richard Nixon

1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George H. W. Bush
1992: George H. W. Bush
(this would have been a hard one without hindsight, because I would have probably have considered myself a Blue Dog Democrat but Bush was doing a good job and I've always really liked him, so I would have probably voted for his re-election)
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: John McCain
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump


With hindsight:
1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower
(at the time I would have been a Democrat and Stevenson is one of my favorite Democratic nominees but Eisenhower I think was one of our greatest presidents (he's definitely in the top 10 at least on my list, my favorite GOP president, along with Bush Sr)
1960: John F. Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
(with hindsight, this is a hard one because on the one hand I think Johnson was very bad for this country but on the other hand Goldwater was too libertarian for me and seemed too eager to use nuclear weapons)
1968: Richard Nixon (the country needed a change)
1972: Richard Nixon (McGovern was way too liberal)
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Jimmy Carter
(Carter is a hard one for 1976, in hindsight Ford would have been better for foreign policy but I would have agreed more with Carter on domestic policy so I'd probably still go with him, although I'm not sure, on the other hand with hindsight in 1980 obviously Carter, even though he wasn't doing the greatest job, Reaganomics have hurt this country and the GOP, although I personnally like Reagan, Bush was right to call out voodoo economics)
1984: Ronald Reagan (Mondale was way too liberal)
1988: George H. W. Bush
1992: George H. W. Bush
(with hindsight this one is easy, Bush was the last great statesman to be president (my other favorite GOP president) and he was the last one where the country wasn't really polarized), plus in 1996 we would have probably gotten a moderate Democrat as president who would have been better than those that have come since)
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: George W. Bush (with hindsight I think everyone running that year would have made a bad president, Gore would have probably been weak and ineffective (which was not what was needed in the aftermath of 9/11) and McCain would have been a worse neo-con than the Bush administration, and Bradley was simply too liberal)
2004: George W. Bush (if comparing the job he did to what Kerry would have done, Kerry if it means avoiding Obama)
2008: John McCain
2012: Mitt Romney
(this one is very easy in hindsight)
2016: Donald Trump (Hillary would have been terrible and something had to change)

Actual votes:
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump


Primaries:
1972: Scoop Jackson
1976: Jimmy Carter
(with hindsight Scoop Jackson)
1980: George H. W. Bush
1984: Fritz Hollings
1988: Dick Gephardt
1992: George H. W. Bush
1996: Bill Clinton (with hindsight, Pat Buchanan)
2000: George W. Bush
2004: Dick Gephardt
2008: Hillary Clinton
(a Democrat was going to win that year anyway so might as well support the better one, as 2008 Hillary was OK)
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Donald Trump
(I would have supported Jim Webb had he been able to compete in the primary)
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 02:25:49 PM »

Without

1896: Bryan
1900: Bryan

1904: T. Roosevelt
1908: Taft

1912: T. Roosevelt
1916: Wilson
1920: Harding
1924: LaFollete
1928: Smith
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR

1948: Wallace
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey

1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: B. Clinton
1996: B. Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: H. Clinton


With

1896: Bryan
1900: Bryan

1904: Watson
1908: Bryan
1912: Wilson
1916: Wilson

1920: Cox
1924: LaFollette
1928: Thomas
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Stevenson
1960: JFK
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: B. Clinton

1996: Nader
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry
2008: Obama

2012: Stein
2016: WI: Joe Biden
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2018, 03:27:06 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2018, 03:28:48 PM by mathstatman »

1. How would I have voted in past elections? I would hope Dem in every election from 1928 to 1968, inclusive, possibly except for 1956. Maybe even McGovern in '72.

2. School mock elections: 1976 Carter (hindsight: Ford, though I could easily go either way even today); 1980 Reagan.

3. How did I vote?
1984-Reagan
1988-NOTA
1992-Bush
1996-Dole
2000-Bush
2004-Bush
2008-McCain

2012-Stein (Johnson was not on MI ballot)
2016-Johnson

4. With hindsight, I would switch my 2000 vote to Gore.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 03:31:45 PM »

All votes since '52 would have been the same, except maybe with Stevenson/Eisenhower (they were both good candidates, and both would have been/were good presidents).
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 07:23:16 PM »

Generally when I respond to these sorts of posts, I give all my answers without hindsight.  Since answers with and without hindsight were asked for, however, I will give those instead.

*Enthusiastic votes
Without Hindsight
1789: George Washington
1792: George Washington
1796: John Adams
1800: John Adams
1804: Thomas Jefferson
1808: James Madison
1812: James Madison*
1816: Rufus King
1820: James Monroe
1824: John Quincy Adams
1828: John Quincy Adams
1832: Henry Clay
1836: William Henry Harrison (or whoever was the Whig candidate in my state)
1840: William Henry Harrison
1844: Henry Clay
1848: Zachary Taylor
1852: Winfield Scott
1856: John C. Fremont
1860: Abraham Lincoln
1864: Abraham Lincoln*
1868: Ulysses S. Grant*
1872: Ulysses S. Grant
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes*
1880: James A. Garfield
1884: James G. Blaine
1888: Benjamin Harrison
1892: Benjamin Harrison
1896: William McKinley*
1900: William McKinley*
1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1908: William Howard Taft
1912: William Howard Taft
1916: Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Warren G. Harding*
1924: Calvin Coolidge
1928: Herbert Hoover
1932: Herbert Hoover
1936: Alf Landon
1940: Wendell Willkie
1944: Thomas E. Dewey
1948: Thomas E. Dewey
1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower*
1960: Richard Nixon
1964: Barry Goldwater
1968: Richard Nixon*
1972: Richard Nixon*
1976: Gerald Ford
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan*
1988: George H.W. Bush
1992: George H.W. Bush
1996: Bob Dole
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: John McCain
2012: Mitt Romney
2016: Evan McMullin

With Hindsight
1789: George Washington
1792: George Washington
1796: John Adams
1800: John Adams
1804: Thomas Jefferson
1808: James Madison
1812: James Madison*
1816: Rufus King
1820: James Monroe
1824: John Quincy Adams
1828: John Quincy Adams*
1832: Henry Clay*
1836: William Henry Harrison (or whoever was the Whig candidate in my state)
1840: William Henry Harrison
1844: Henry Clay
1848: Martin Van Buren
1852: Winfield Scott
1856: John C. Fremont
1860: Abraham Lincoln
1864: Abraham Lincoln*
1868: Ulysses S. Grant*
1872: Horace Greeley
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes
1880: James A. Garfield
1884: James G. Blaine
1888: Benjamin Harrison
1892: Grover Cleveland
1896: William McKinley*
1900: William McKinley*
1904: Theodore Roosevelt*
1908: William Howard Taft
1912: William Howard Taft
1916: Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Warren G. Harding
1924: Calvin Coolidge
1928: Herbert Hoover
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1936: Alf Landon
1940: Wendell Willkie
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1948: Thomas E. Dewey
1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower
1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower*
1960: Richard Nixon*
1964: Barry Goldwater*
1968: Richard Nixon
1972: Richard Nixon*
1976: Gerald Ford*
1980: Ronald Reagan*
1984: Ronald Reagan*
1988: George H.W. Bush
1992: George H.W. Bush*
1996: Bob Dole
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: John McCain*
2012: Mitt Romney*
2016: Evan McMullin
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 07:04:29 PM »

Correction: I would have voted for Al Smith in 1928 with hindsight, just so that a Democrat could be president when the Great Depression started.
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