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« Reply #1375 on: June 09, 2017, 03:46:05 AM »

Why was Tim Farron's constituency so close? He only won by like 777 votes. I thought he was the safest Lib Dem?

Even though they won seats it seems that most of their seats are in precarious situations.
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« Reply #1376 on: June 09, 2017, 03:47:26 AM »

I suppose it's a byproduct of the Tories and Labour siphoning up 80% of the vote this time. All the smaller parties suffered, no matter how strong their local candidate/campaign.
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« Reply #1377 on: June 09, 2017, 03:48:41 AM »

Why was Tim Farron's constituency so close? He only won by like 777 votes. I thought he was the safest Lib Dem?

Even though they won seats it seems that most of their seats are in precarious situations.

Northern Seat that was held by the Tories until 2005, and had a large leave vote IIRC. Tories also poured a lot of resources into it
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« Reply #1378 on: June 09, 2017, 03:58:52 AM »

So the Tories are actually one or two seats up on labor in Scotland. When is the last time that happened?

1955? Conservatives 36 seats, Labour 34
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« Reply #1379 on: June 09, 2017, 03:59:15 AM »

Expatriates can vote in the seat they were last registered in for up to 15 years. The overseas territories have their own governments and no Westminster representatives.
Just a general question about the system: What's about the British oversees territories and expats? Aren't they allowed to vote or something?
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« Reply #1380 on: June 09, 2017, 04:20:33 AM »

Donald Tusk‏ - @eucopresident
We don't know when Brexit talks start. We know when they must end. Do your best to avoid a "no deal" as result of "no negotiations".

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All results declared except Kensington

Tory 318
Labour 261
LD 12
SNP 35
Democratic Ulster Unionits 10
Sein Fein 7
Plaid 4

So, Con+DUP would have a majority of 6 (more in practice because Sinn Fein don't take their seats). However, they would also have all other parties against them (no way the Lib Dems do a deal with the Conservatives again).

Also I thought the Brexit deadline could be delayed if all countries agreed? (I don't think that would be an issue, I don't think it's a controversial thing to do and the EU will probably want a deal as well)
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« Reply #1381 on: June 09, 2017, 04:38:11 AM »

Nuttall resigns.
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« Reply #1382 on: June 09, 2017, 05:01:56 AM »

Farage is back, not sure Ukip. is the destination the party is in bad financial state thatI assume will only be aggravated by losing 340 deposits and winning naught
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« Reply #1383 on: June 09, 2017, 05:23:35 AM »

The whole border between Eire and NI is now located in Sinn Fein held seats.
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« Reply #1384 on: June 09, 2017, 05:26:52 AM »

DUP supporting the government but the assembly election ending badly with no power sharing will force direct rule which in turn with the makeup of the coming government could be disastrous
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« Reply #1385 on: June 09, 2017, 05:33:54 AM »

Just noticed LD were wiped out in Wales. When was the last time there was no LibDem/Liberals/Whig MP in Wales? 17th century?

I think the answer is since there were parties...
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« Reply #1386 on: June 09, 2017, 05:34:36 AM »

DUP supporting the government but the assembly election ending badly with no power sharing will force direct rule which in turn with the makeup of the coming government could be disastrous

It is kind of ironic that DUP might be preventing a hung UK parliament while the Northern Ireland parliament is totally hung.
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« Reply #1387 on: June 09, 2017, 05:38:12 AM »

Some fascinating results in every direction in many constituencies.

If it ends up 319+10 (Tory+DUP) against 314 (all others without SinnFein) then it is possible but will be hard to Keep it going for 5 years with by-elections mostly going against the government.

But I doubt that the Cons want to risk another election before Brexit is done. So there's not really an alternative and working together with the DUP and searching changing majorities e.g. with the LD when it comes to economical issues is a healthy strategy for at least 2 years.

Nevertheless, Remain-May has to go. Farage is absoluetly right. The Tory Party/UK needs a PM who believes in Brexit.
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« Reply #1388 on: June 09, 2017, 05:53:22 AM »

I am not sure that Labour could afford another election either.
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« Reply #1389 on: June 09, 2017, 06:02:27 AM »

While DUP says they want a softer Brexit, not only Farage is coming back, but it's widely believed May will be challenged if Brexit is watered down. Her position is untenable.
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« Reply #1390 on: June 09, 2017, 06:06:53 AM »



it seems that the polls where not that far off but it many pollsters did not believe in the youth turnout surge plus over-learning from 2015 
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« Reply #1391 on: June 09, 2017, 06:12:46 AM »

While DUP says they want a softer Brexit, not only Farage is coming back, but it's widely believed May will be challenged if Brexit is watered down. Her position is untenable.

Well, one of the main reasons she wanted a wider majority was to be able to pass a Hard Brexit, despite some opposition in her party. There was not the votes to pass it and, obviously, still not. Hard Brexit is dead.

DUP won't yield on that anyways, the whole Northern Irish economy depends on open borders with Ireland.
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« Reply #1392 on: June 09, 2017, 06:19:01 AM »

While DUP says they want a softer Brexit, not only Farage is coming back, but it's widely believed May will be challenged if Brexit is watered down. Her position is untenable.

brexit will be watered down, single market or doom.
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« Reply #1393 on: June 09, 2017, 06:23:02 AM »

While DUP says they want a softer Brexit, not only Farage is coming back, but it's widely believed May will be challenged if Brexit is watered down. Her position is untenable.

Well, one of the main reasons she wanted a wider majority was to be able to pass a Hard Brexit, despite some opposition in her party. There was not the votes to pass it and, obviously, still not. Hard Brexit is dead.

DUP won't yield on that anyways, the whole Northern Irish economy depends on open borders with Ireland.

Good luck trying to convince eurosceptic backbenchers and the base of that. That's why her position is so tough.
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« Reply #1394 on: June 09, 2017, 06:30:19 AM »

¿Could there be a everyone vs the conservatives if the DUP is not able to deal with the Tories because of disagreements on Brexit?

I guess such a coalition would be a disaster from day 1 though.
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« Reply #1395 on: June 09, 2017, 06:34:43 AM »

¿Could there be a everyone vs the conservatives if the DUP is not able to deal with the Tories because of disagreements on Brexit?

I guess such a coalition would be a disaster from day 1 though.

No - with SF not taking their seats and the DUP not up for a deal with Labour, as well as no likely Lib Dem involvement, then the parliamentary maths doesn't work.
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« Reply #1396 on: June 09, 2017, 06:36:21 AM »



it seems that the polls where not that far off but it many pollsters did not believe in the youth turnout surge plus over-learning from 2015 

The raw number is pretty much bang on - it's 2.4% rather than 2.3%.
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« Reply #1397 on: June 09, 2017, 06:42:31 AM »

First order of business will be to pass legislation against popery!
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« Reply #1398 on: June 09, 2017, 06:43:19 AM »

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« Reply #1399 on: June 09, 2017, 06:56:38 AM »

No coalition but rather cooperation "with our strong friends and allies at the DUP"
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