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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2018, 01:33:20 PM »

RINO cuck. I'm surprised the deplorables in the audience didn't start chanting "Lock her up!"

She is actually substantially more extreme than the average Republican, judging by the fact that she wrote books, and the book names are:

"Do-Gooders: How Liberals Hurt Those They Claim to Help (and the Rest of Us)"

"Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First"
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 12:27:23 AM »

Takes guts to be so frank in front of a crowd like that, and drill a hole in a echo chamber that pressurised. FF

This. Incidentally, it was noted in a tweet posted on AAD that she was escorted out afterwards by 3 security guards. Not to eject her, but protect her from the crowd, apparently.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2018, 01:24:30 AM »

Takes guts to be so frank in front of a crowd like that, and drill a hole in a echo chamber that pressurised. FF

This. Incidentally, it was noted in a tweet posted on AAD that she was escorted out afterwards by 3 security guards. Not to eject her, but protect her from the crowd, apparently.

Yes, she wrote an op-ed in the NYT about having to be escorted out due to her safety. This isn't the first time. Apparently, Katy Tur had to be escorted out at several Trump rallies for fear of her safety. It's nice to see that the conservative movement is made up of fascist reactionary deplorables.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2018, 02:30:07 AM »

Massive FF. I just wish basic integrity wasn’t something we had to commend.
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2018, 02:21:21 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2018, 02:49:06 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2018, 02:52:30 PM by Brittain33 »

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid

In theory, yes, but when the reason she is a leader in the party is because she's descended from the guy who defined the first version of the party and whose daughter defines it now and shares his name and who glorifies France's fascist past... come on.
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2018, 03:09:56 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

"Look, I don't like that Hitler exterminated 5 million Jews. But other than that he had some very good policies"
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2018, 03:15:24 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

"Look, I don't like that Hitler exterminated 5 million Jews. But other than that he had some very good policies"

When the FN endorse genocide, we can talk. Until then, stop using the Holocaust to try to score cheap points. It's lazy and cheapens the horror of the atrocities committed by the Nazis.
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2018, 03:22:40 PM »

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid

In theory, yes, but when the reason she is a leader in the party is because she's descended from the guy who defined the first version of the party and whose daughter defines it now and shares his name and who glorifies France's fascist past... come on.

No, it's always stupid.  If there's a legitimate reason to criticize someone, use that instead.
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2018, 03:50:36 PM »

When the FN endorse genocide, we can talk. Until then, stop using the Holocaust to try to score cheap points. It's lazy and cheapens the horror of the atrocities committed by the Nazis.


You're right. They don't endorse it, they just deny it ever happened.
Totally different situation.
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2018, 04:39:34 PM »

When the FN endorse genocide, we can talk. Until then, stop using the Holocaust to try to score cheap points. It's lazy and cheapens the horror of the atrocities committed by the Nazis.


You're right. They don't endorse it, they just deny it ever happened.
Totally different situation.

Nice try but that's not a good enough reason for the rest of NATO invade Turkey and reconquer Istanbul for you.
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2018, 04:51:31 PM »

When the FN endorse genocide, we can talk. Until then, stop using the Holocaust to try to score cheap points. It's lazy and cheapens the horror of the atrocities committed by the Nazis.


You're right. They don't endorse it, they just deny it ever happened.
Totally different situation.

Nice try but that's not a good enough reason for the rest of NATO invade Turkey and reconquer Istanbul for you.

Because I'm such a huge Greek nationalist, amirite?
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2018, 05:43:08 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

I'm sure her own views play a role, too. I mean, I wouldn't expect them to defend a liberal just because her great-grandfather was Nazi. But if she's a fascist, too? That's their kind of gal. (As long as she's a lot younger than the conservative in question, of course.)

CPAC couldn't get enough of Le Pen's description of a kind of 'Final Solution' to the immigration issue in America. In exchange for work, she said, they will set the immigrants free or something like that

is this an attempt at a joke?

The only mention of immigration in her speech was in reference to France and was very mild by Trump/CPAC standards.

Gasp! Any deviation from democrat views on immigration is racist nazi fascism.

No, but being a fascist from a fascist party is fascist.
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2018, 06:04:21 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

Yeah. I pretty much thought you would.
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2018, 07:41:57 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

Yeah. I pretty much thought you would.

You mean you listened to the speech and thought of me?  Awww, I'm flattered. Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2018, 11:32:14 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

Yeah. I pretty much thought you would.

You mean you listened to the speech and thought of me?  Awww, I'm flattered. Smiley

Psst. That's not a compliment, Shua.
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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2018, 11:48:01 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

Yeah. I pretty much thought you would.

You mean you listened to the speech and thought of me?  Awww, I'm flattered. Smiley

Psst. That's not a compliment, Shua.

Why not?  He said he thought I would have the opinion I do. And since my opinion is a good one to have, it's a nice thing to say.
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2018, 11:59:07 PM »

Props to her for telling it as it is! And seriously, Conservatives? They continued to defend the Le Pens despite her great-grandfather being a Nazi?

So that makes her 1/8 Nazi ?

So...like are you supporting her or what?

Criticizing someone for who they are descended from is stupid, and it's highly ironic when the criticism deals with prejudice based on ancestry.

I strongly oppose the xenophobia of the National Front, but I agree with 90% of what Marion said in her speech, which talked about the value of tradition, protecting national self-government from being destroyed by supranational bodies, and opposing the commodification of children and family life.

Yeah. I pretty much thought you would.

You mean you listened to the speech and thought of me?  Awww, I'm flattered. Smiley

Psst. That's not a compliment, Shua.

Why not?  He said he thought I would have the opinion I do. And since my opinion is a good one to have, it's a nice thing to say.

Being reminded to someone by a Nazi apologists speech is a bad thing
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