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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: December 14, 2008, 05:49:09 PM »

Exit poll gives Obama 30% of Arkansas whites and 35% of NC whites.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 10:24:02 PM »

Yea, Al's on the right track. Arkansas whites are no more or less racist than whites in other similar parts of the south.

If Obama had spent a crap load of money in Arkansas like he did in North Carolina and Virginia and to some extent Georgia he probably could've done a lot better. He chose not to, and thus did not do well there.

The Clintons being from there also probably cost him a 1-2% personal vote.

Hmm no. What you and Al are not looking at is how the white voters in NC and AR vote in elections. Lets take 2004 vs 2008..


AR: 2004: 63-36 vs. 2008: 68-30.

Then look at NC.

NC: 2004: 73-27 vs.  2008: 64-35

Like Meeker said, that ignores some very important pieces of information.  As I've said, it is important to remember that Obama basically lived in places like VA, NC, OH, etc., while he barely ever visited AR.  It makes a huge difference.

Obama did that because them states were polling close to start with, AR was never close. If obama ran ads and went to AR he may( and that is a big MAY) have kept McCain MOV to 10%.

So then why aren't you calling Utah racist?  Because Obama didn't really do anything there, and got crushed.  Your argument makes no sense to me.

UT trended left, unlike AR which trended strongly to the right. Also Democrat always get killed in UT. AR is a democratic friendly state.

AR is only friendly when a native son (or adopted daughter) is on the ticket.  Kerry lost badly, so did Gore.

Check out 1976.

Carter was from Georgia.  Check out 1968, 1972, and 1984.
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How does how Arkansas voted in 1968 prove that it is NOT racist?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,112
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2008, 12:27:17 PM »

How does how Arkansas voted in 1968 prove that it is NOT racist?

Nixon beat Humphrey by less than 1%.

But neither one won the state. Who did was my point.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,112
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 12:28:06 PM »

According to constine, this is ony the result of a rightward trend:

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