Wisconsin Megathread v2: Hagedorn vs. Neubauer

[MAINEiac4434]

How come Janet Mills isnt leading in polls, otherwise they would poll the state already and she isnt charismatic, either. Its one factor, not the factor

There have been no polls in Maine

[Doimper]

Guys, I dont think charisma will matter that much in the race. Walker has the charisma of a brick, a very good looking brick though, so literally anything will do.

What matters more is how well Evers can connect with voters, and how energized he can make them. His position as Superintendent helps him focus on education issues, and he has been at many rallies and events.

This is coming from someone supporting Mitchell.

Really? I know beauty is subjective but he looks like a look down fish to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookdown

Hes not attractive, but he is rather good looking.


Of course, this is at his most photgenic, he also looks like this

One of his eyes is lower and saggier than the other one and it's really sort of unnerving

[CookieDamage]

He's ugly. It's a fact.

[MAINEiac4434]

[Zaybay]

After looking at more photos of him, I have come to the conclusion that he is rather unnerving, and so I retract my previous comment.

He is now just a brick

[KingSweden]

After looking at more photos of him, I have come to the conclusion that he is rather unnerving, and so I retract my previous comment.

He is now just a brick

Glad you came around, “Scott Walker swole bae ” is not the hot-take Hill I would have chosen to die on

[mcmikk]

BREAKING: One of the moronic prognosticators FINALLY moved this race out of Lean R.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/2018_elections_governor_map.html

Of course, it was never Lean R to begin with, but it's nice to see at least one """expert""" understand that.

[mcmikk]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/31/walker-wisconsin-education-unions-751243

Looks like this race is starting to get a little more attention.

[Wiz in Wis]

I don't expect many to agree with me, but I think Roys is kind of hot.

Correct, though sadly she is no longer a brunette.

[pbrower2a]

Getting ensnared with Natasha Femme Fatale (a/k/a Maria Butina) could be the demise of his possibility of a successful "threepeat".

[GeorgiaModerate]

Getting ensnared with Natasha Femme Fatale (a/k/a Maria Butina) could be the demise of his possibility of a successful "threepeat".

On that note:

https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1024412751182147584

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I don't expect many to agree with me, but I think Roys is kind of hot.

Correct, though sadly she is no longer a brunette.

Actually the dark blonde fits her well.

[Dr. Arch]

It seems Evers is holding true and focusing his campaign outside of the big cities. Not one Evers lawn sign in either Madison or MKE where I've passed through. I've seen a lot of Roys and Vinehout signs in the cities  however.

Evers is largely running a public meeting/ad style campaign in the big areas. Is his precense more pronounced elsewhere in the state? I imagine he's big in Western and Northern WI.

[mcmikk]

It seems Evers is holding true and focusing his campaign outside of the big cities. Not one Evers lawn sign in either Madison or MKE where I've passed through. I've seen a lot of Roys and Vinehout signs in the cities  however.

Evers is largely running a public meeting/ad style campaign in the big areas. Is his precense more pronounced elsewhere in the state? I imagine he's big in Western and Northern WI.

Seems to make sense to me, at least anecdotally. I drive through the Madison metro area often, and I haven't seen a single Evers sign. The most common from my experience are Vinehout and McCabe, along with some for Mitchell, and I've only seen 1 for Roys. Haven't seen any signs for anyone else.

Evers also just generally seems like a better fit for rural communities. He's performed well in them in past elections and he can connect well with places that have struggled with education(funding and etc).

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

So, assuming Evers gets the nom, what does turnout look like in a hypothetical campaign where he pays minimal attention to Milwaukee/Madison? I'd guess Democrats are energized enough to turn out there anyway but is there any risk to not focusing campaign efforts there?

[Dr. Arch]

So, assuming Evers gets the nom, what does turnout look like in a hypothetical campaign where he pays minimal attention to Milwaukee/Madison? I'd guess Democrats are energized enough to turn out there anyway but is there any risk to not focusing campaign efforts there?

0 risk in Dane, trust me on that one.

[Zaybay]

So, assuming Evers gets the nom, what does turnout look like in a hypothetical campaign where he pays minimal attention to Milwaukee/Madison? I'd guess Democrats are energized enough to turn out there anyway but is there any risk to not focusing campaign efforts there?

Dane is fine, they always turnout. But Milwaukee is a problem. They have constantly had low turnout compared to the rest of the state, which is a big reason why the state was lost in 2016. A good campaign would focus on Milwaukee and the rurals of the state, ignoring Dane and WOW.

[mcmikk]

So, assuming Evers gets the nom, what does turnout look like in a hypothetical campaign where he pays minimal attention to Milwaukee/Madison? I'd guess Democrats are energized enough to turn out there anyway but is there any risk to not focusing campaign efforts there?

Dane is fine, they always turnout. But Milwaukee is a problem. They have constantly had low turnout compared to the rest of the state, which is a big reason why the state was lost in 2016. A good campaign would focus on Milwaukee and the rurals of the state, ignoring Dane and WOW.

Agree with this pretty much, though prioritize rurals over Milwaukee. Milwaukee isn't super reliable for turnout, and Dems don't need huge numbers in Milwaukee to win if they get good margins in Dane and do well in rural areas.

I don't think Dane should be ignored entirely though, it's still good for people there to at least know who you are and pad the margin a little bit.

[Scottholes 2.0]

If Dane County continues to deliver high margins for democrats and grows at a fast rate, democrats will probably always be competitive in Wisconsin. I've never understand why the rural areas of Dane County voted the way it did, though.

[Dr. Arch]

If Dane County continues to deliver high margins for democrats and grows at a fast rate, democrats will probably always be competitive in Wisconsin. I've never understand why the rural areas of Dane County voted the way it did, though.

Because there's a lot of shared identity and commuters as well.

[Scottholes 2.0]

If Dane County continues to deliver high margins for democrats and grows at a fast rate, democrats will probably always be competitive in Wisconsin. I've never understand why the rural areas of Dane County voted the way it did, though.

Because there's a lot of shared identity and commuters as well.

True, but it's just interesting how Waukesha County delivered 72 percent for Scott Walker while Dane County delivered 70 percent for Mary Burke, yet both counties are only 30 miles apart. WI is very politically polarized, in my opinion, and the gerrymandering has only exacerbated the polarization.

Dane County does rank high for out-of-state migration. I read an article a long time ago which indicated that more than 40 percent of new residents in Dane came from other states, most of whom were from Cook County. The WOW counties were mostly built off of white flight, so perhaps maybe that could effect the politics?

[Dr. Arch]

If Dane County continues to deliver high margins for democrats and grows at a fast rate, democrats will probably always be competitive in Wisconsin. I've never understand why the rural areas of Dane County voted the way it did, though.

Because there's a lot of shared identity and commuters as well.

True, but it's just interesting how Waukesha County delivered 72 percent for Scott Walker while Dane County delivered 70 percent for Mary Burke, yet both counties are only 30 miles apart. WI is very politically polarized, in my opinion, and the gerrymandering has only exacerbated the polarization.

Dane County does rank high for out-of-state migration. I read an article a long time ago which indicated that more than 40 percent of new residents in Dane came from other states, most of whom were from Cook County. The WOW counties were mostly built off of white flight, so perhaps maybe that could effect the politics?

Trust me, not perhaps, lol.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Add up Dane County and all the Counties Screnock won in the recent state Supreme Court Race while excluding all the other Dallet Counties, and Dallet still wins.

[Scottholes 2.0]

I don't think Tony Evers is the best person to defeat Walker. I think Mike McCabe is. He can appeal to swing voters better than Evers.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/boniver/status/1025139177896079360