SENATE BILL: Double Posting Leniency Resolution (At Final Vote)

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Late to the party, but:

The prohibition against multiple posts in the Voting Booth was proposed as a compromise after some in the Senate voiced discomfort with the original bill, which banned campaigning in the voting booth outright. I agree with Yankee and DC's assessment that the proposed amendment is very wordy and problematic in some of its phrasing (what qualifies as "clearly accidental?" as opposed to "arguably accidental?"). The Senator for Frémont's amendment addresses some of this, but is still far from ideal.

The simplest way to allow multiple posts in the voting booth is to just delete the relevant line from I§4. If you want, you could re-add the original prohibitions against campaigning in the voting booth, or just insert a clause reading something to the effect of "but Congress shall have power to establish rules with regard to the invalidation of ballots for undue influence" or something of that sort.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I still believe we should keep more of the voting regulations separate from the constitution and in a separate piece of statute. If needed for protecting election integrity we can always require a supermajority to reform said statute.

You mean by amending the constitution to require all election regulations pass by a 2/3 vote? Otherwise that would not be allowable.

Agree with the rest of this, as well as Yankee's latest post.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I'd want to see some changes to the proposed text, but in principle endorse Wulfric's approach.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I was thinking something along these lines:

The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to vote shall not be denied, except with regard to persons whose accounts is fewer than 168 hours old, as punishment for crimes of which the accused has been duly convicted, or in consequence of failing failure to meet such requirements for frequent posting, or term of residency, or the construction and revision of ballots as may be established by law; but no ballot shall be counted as valid that should list the candidates for office in a script other than the Latin alphabet, or that has been edited more than twenty minutes after its posting in the voting booth. All posts made in the voting booth shall be considered as ballots, and no citizen shall cast multiple ballots in any one election during the period the voting booth is open, upon penalty of the invalidation of their vote. Congress shall have power to make all needful rules governing the resolution of duplicate ballots and such other controversies as may arise, except as otherwise limited by this Constitution.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

It does not —it brings back the possibility of it, but (a) if we aren't willing to risk Congress making a mistake, what is even the point of this amendment? and (b) including an undefined, unenforceable offense in the Constitution (even, nay especially in a clause removing it from existence) is pretty pointless.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

It does not —it brings back the possibility of it, but (a) if we aren't willing to risk Congress making a mistake, what is even the point of this amendment? and (b) including an undefined, unenforceable offense in the Constitution (even, nay especially in a clause removing it from existence) is pretty pointless.

No, the prohibition is still in the statute, we just can't enforce it anymore because BK vs Rpryor. If we modify the constitution to make BK v Rpryor irrelevant without protecting campaigning, the prohibition comes back automatically because we never did remove it from the statute.

Sounds like y'all better get moving then.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

At first glance, this looks good —I would also support a clause allowing voters to cast a second valid ballot if their first was incomplete (i.e. they voted for president but not for House, or vice-versa).

How are we defining "campaigning" in §7(b)?