Italy 2013: The official thread

[Keystone Phil]

Much of PdL's gains since the election have come directly from Monti's list, at least.

It's a joke that he's still even around. He's really going to put himself through the wringer again?

[Keystone Phil]

What time is the vote expected?

[Keystone Phil]

PDL rebelling against Berlusconi.
Goats roaring against the lion.

But how many make up this rebel faction?

[Keystone Phil]

PDL rebelling against Berlusconi.
Goats roaring against the lion.

But how many make up this rebel faction?

Between 30 and 50,it seems.

And some thought we'd never see the day Silvio would be seriously challenged!

Then again, I don't know what the party members outside of parliament think about this. Any polling?

[Keystone Phil]

There is no such thing as PDL members...voters,at most.

This is what I was looking for...

An opinion poll by the Ipsos institute conducted on Tuesday showed 61 percent of PDL voters felt the party should back Letta and 51 percent that it should pick a new leader to take over from Berlusconi and renew the party.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9910A520131002?irpc=932

A majority wanting a new leader is pretty damn significant. Also, not sure what that Sky report is talking about. Everything I'm seeing points to an increase in PdL members siding with Letta.

[Keystone Phil]

Is it really surprising? He was already being humiliated and it was only going to get worse.

Berlusconi and the Republicans: Taking a whole country hostage.

Glad you eye-rolled at your own silliness.

[Keystone Phil]

Is it really surprising? He was already being humiliated and it was only going to get worse.

Berlusconi and the Republicans: Taking a whole country hostage.

Glad you eye-rolled at your own silliness.

Believe it or not, Berlusconi and the Republicans are the silly ones ...

I don't doubt that one of the two is silly.

[Keystone Phil]

I didn't even know Formigoni was in parliament. I guess running earlier this year was part of the deal for him to step down as Governor.

Happy 2,000th post here, by the way! It's been quite a year.

[Keystone Phil]

Just breaking. Full Senate vote expected within three weeks.

[Keystone Phil]

Chances Silvio can buy off enough PD Senators to survive?

[Keystone Phil]

Figured I'd still ask since that had been alleged in the past.

[Keystone Phil]

Monti resigns from Civic Choice.

His whole attempt into electoral politics has been a flop.

It's about damn time! Stunned he stuck around after the election.

[Keystone Phil]

So where do the few remaining Civic Choice voters go?

I imagine the few remaining are wealthy northern business types that had problems with Berlusconi. With Silvio effectively out of the picture, I assume they'd return to the center-right coalition.