Fair redistricting: California

[cvparty]

Hello, Atlas, and welcome to our fair redistricting project! We will be creating fair and representative congressional districts through a bipartisan panel of me (I), Singletxguyforfun (R), Sol (R), OPEN (D), and TimTurner (D). It is essential that you read the rules here.

Status

Submissions are OPEN until a long time. Feel free to submit up to TWO maps maximum, add a narrative/explanation to your map, and give feedback on other people's maps!

State order and directory
NM - CO - AZ - UT - NV - ID - OR - WA - HI - CA
*You have the entire order here, so try to stay ahead and have maps in advance.

[cvparty]

I'll start building a table to post SPICE scores for NM submissions here. NM has a PVI of D+3 and that projects to an advantage of 0.36 of a seat for the Dems. Rounding to whole numbers that would require a plan with 1 D 1R and 1 even seat to have a SKEW of 0. I think all the plans are 2 D and 1 R and they will have a SKEW of 1. The Albuquerque UCC is Bernalillo, Sandoval and Valencia and if those counties have more than 2 CDs it counts as an extra chop, as it does if no CD is nested in those three counties. A plan that picks up just the precinct needed to keep a reservation whole does not count as a chop, but if it picks up additional precincts in the chopped county it does count as a chop.

Plan	-S-	-P-	-I-	-C-	-E-
HCP	1	6	5	4	12
Sol	1	6	3	1	14
Solid4096	1	6	5	2	20
TimTurner	1	6	11	2	12
jimrtex	1	6	5	2	20

Jimrtex's whole county plan is the same as Solid4096.

If Sol is actually getting better scores with his very flawed plan than other plans that actually use sensible design methodology, then I think there is something that needs to be fixed with the muon rules. Probably the underlined part.

muon2’s scoring system isn’t official it’s just for us to possibly consider
also, LOL

[cvparty]

HOLD UP GUYS DON'T MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STATE

[cvparty]

SOL'S MAP WINS. We're now on Colorado! Please provide a Denver close-up image in addition to your image. Like so (this is my submission)


The satellite image is to show/justify my Jeffco split, you can see the sparsely populated mountains serving as the 6th's and 7th's western boundary
1: D+23
2: D+10
3: R+6
4: R+15
5: R+14
6: D+3
7: D+5

[cvparty]

SOL'S MAP WINS.

Why?

Because people ranked it highly

[cvparty]

Here are the votes:
TimTurner: (not sure if the order or the numbers indicate the rank, but either way Sol's would win)
5. HCP
1. Sol
6. Solid4096/jimrtex
4. Scarlet
2. TimTurner
3. muon2
7. AustralianSwingVoter
8. Singletxguyforfun

Sol: Sol>muon2=Scarlet>AustralianSwingVoter>Solid>HCP=TimTurner
cvparty: scarlet>muon2>sol>australian>hcp>single>tim>solid
Single: Aussie>HCP>Muon>Sol>Singletxguy>TimTurner>Omega>Solid4096/jimrtex

[cvparty]

update I guess, I've been thinking about muon2's argument against IRV, and average deviation will instead be used in cases of ties. this means muon2's map is actually the winner for NM. not really a significant change since Sol's map is nearly identical

[cvparty]

update I guess, I've been thinking about muon2's argument against IRV, and average deviation will instead be used in cases of ties. this means muon2's map is actually the winner for NM. not really a significant change since Sol's map is nearly identical

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sorry!!! your maps are awesome, you did win KY. for most states there's no truly single best map. most of the "winners" in this thing are just one best map, not the best map.

[cvparty]

update I guess, I've been thinking about muon2's argument against IRV, and average deviation will instead be used in cases of ties. this means muon2's map is actually the winner for NM. not really a significant change since Sol's map is nearly identical

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sorry!!! your maps are awesome, you did win KY. for most states there's no truly single best map. most of the "winners" in this thing are just one best map, not the best map.

'Twas in jest

yeah i know, just wanted to say

[cvparty]

1: R+5
2: R+4
3: D+9
4: R+20
5: R+13
6: R+2
7: D+14
8: R+12
9: D+6

[cvparty]

Why do y'all keep on splitting reservations?!?

wait where’d I split em

[cvparty]

I was just about to post one pretty much identical to MB's, he didn't put the populations tho and our districts are prob a little different so I'll put mine out there

1: R+26
2: R+31
3: R+26
4: D+5

[cvparty]

1: D+18
2: R+7
3: R+6
4: D+5

[cvparty]

A fair map of a D leaning state that is very swingy shouldn't have 2 safe R seats, especially one that basically carves up Las Vegas into two main seats and basically attachs suburbs of Las Vegas with Henderson and rurals. Honestly the current map of NV is pretty fair.

nevada isn't that democratic lol it was even in 2016

[cvparty]

I didn't expect UT to end so abruptly and NV to have such a short submission time (it would have been on 3/28 based on the last cycles). I had expected to have access to DRA by the time NV was due so all I have are the population numbers for this 2015 plan. I also am still curious if voting will take place, since normally I would be getting some idea of what the panel likes and doesn't like by now.

I don't wanna drag out small states, Utah and Nevada only have 4 districts each, there are only so many ways to draw them
and yes we are voting, Scarlet is actually back on the panel and has cast votes for past states. I shall update the spreadsheet and put in in the northeast OP

[cvparty]

I didn't expect UT to end so abruptly and NV to have such a short submission time (it would have been on 3/28 based on the last cycles). I had expected to have access to DRA by the time NV was due so all I have are the population numbers for this 2015 plan. I also am still curious if voting will take place, since normally I would be getting some idea of what the panel likes and doesn't like by now.

I don't wanna drag out small states, Utah and Nevada only have 4 districts each, there are only so many ways to draw them
and yes we are voting, Scarlet is actually back on the panel and has cast votes for past states. I shall update the spreadsheet and put in in the northeast OP

But with four states in parallel, I don't think there's any harm in letting one run slow. In addition, many posters have RL commitments and a two day turnaround is tough. Finally, a thread that slows down offers opportunity for comments, since once the next state is underway there will be less attention placed on plans for the previous one.

Along with the spreadsheet, are the panelists making comments, and if so can they be posted? From a research perspective they are the most valuable part of this.

sure sure, I'll extend NV and the other states cuz sadly we don't have many proposals, we ain't going back to UT tho cuz there are really no other ways to draw it

and um, sol and i try to but the others don't really. comments will be in the spreadsheet. tim basically ignores me soo

[cvparty]

I didn't expect UT to end so abruptly and NV to have such a short submission time (it would have been on 3/28 based on the last cycles). I had expected to have access to DRA by the time NV was due so all I have are the population numbers for this 2015 plan. I also am still curious if voting will take place, since normally I would be getting some idea of what the panel likes and doesn't like by now.

I don't wanna drag out small states, Utah and Nevada only have 4 districts each, there are only so many ways to draw them
and yes we are voting, Scarlet is actually back on the panel and has cast votes for past states. I shall update the spreadsheet and put in in the northeast OP

But with four states in parallel, I don't think there's any harm in letting one run slow. In addition, many posters have RL commitments and a two day turnaround is tough. Finally, a thread that slows down offers opportunity for comments, since once the next state is underway there will be less attention placed on plans for the previous one.

Along with the spreadsheet, are the panelists making comments, and if so can they be posted? From a research perspective they are the most valuable part of this.

I've been making comments since a few rounds ago. I'll post the relevant comments in the relevant threads if that's okay .

well I put all your comments in the results spreadsheet so you don't have to

[cvparty]

Idaho is a weird state, good luck I guess

[cvparty]

Idaho is a weird state, good luck I guess

IMO there’s nothing particularly unfair about Idaho’s map, unless ones of a mind that Boise deserves its own district

that's what I believe
I mean it really doesn't matter either way cuz both seats are super Republican so

[cvparty]

Mm, I dunno if that makes sense. Eastern Idaho has a very distinct identity--it's much more Mormon and in a lot of ways is sort of an extension of the Wasatch Range, with a bunch of small cities throughout. The Panhandle is the least Mormon part of the state and is more closely linked to Western Montana and Eastern Washington. And they are completely unreachable without traveling through Boise. Any map which links the two is an unconscionable gerrymander.

is this really an accurate accusation? who politically does it rig elections in favor of? you have to consider the limitations created by 1) the number of districts and 2) the borders/bounds of the state

[cvparty]

one smol piece is taken from the northeast corner of canyon
1: R+14
2: R+25

[cvparty]

Idaho entries.

Plan A



CD 1: -146; R+23
CD 2: +146; R+15

Plan B



CD 1: +1; R+13
CD 2: -1; R+26

1: R+14
2: R+25

1. R+18 (+175)
2. R+20 (-175)

R+15 and R+23

plan 1 (East-West)

District 1 R+13.57 - 41.3 - 56.3
District 2 R+25.40 - 29.8 - 67.8





plan 2 (Boise)

District 1 R+14.88 - 39.0 - 58.8
District 2 R+22.85 - 33.4 - 64.1

[cvparty]

Thanks for grouping these together. If you'd like I'll work on scores over the next couple of days. I can priorize between the 4 states just completed, but I can't do them simultaneously.

I think there was someone that asked for Maryland, so I would do that first

[cvparty]

District 1: D+6
District 2: R+11
District 3: D+28
District 4: D+1
District 5: R+2

3 counties are split.

I endorse this plan

[cvparty]

OREGON ENTRIES

plan A


CD 1: (+444) D+6.6
CD 2: (-1547) R+12
CD 3: (-156) D+28
CD 4: (+743) D+0.9
CD 5: (+515) R+1.0


Plan B


CD 1: (-1275) D+8.4
CD 2: (+2218) R+12
CD 3: (+307) D+28
CD 4: (-537) D+3.3
CD 5: (-714) R+6.1

1. D+7 (Northwest) -936
2. R+10 (East) -472
3. D+28 (Portland) -417
4. D+1 (Southwest) +1339
5. R+4 (Salem/Clackamas) +485

Oregon Non-Partisan plan 1
District 1 D+06.60 - 58.0 - 39.9
District 2 R+12.06 - 42.9 - 54.8
District 3 D+27.64 - 76.6 - 21.3
District 4 D+00.90 - 55.1 - 42.6
District 5 R+01.02 - 52.2 - 45.8

Oregon Non-Partisan plan 2
District 1 D+08.34 - 58.9 - 39.3
District 2 R+12.15 - 42.7 - 55.0
District 3 D+27.79 - 76.8 - 21.2
District 4 D+03.31 - 57.4 - 40.3
District 5 R+06.17 - 48.4 - 49.4

District 1: D+6
District 2: R+11
District 3: D+28
District 4: D+1
District 5: R+2