The Sword of Damocles - (Sign Up Thread) - Closed, 2017 Game Next

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'm planning on running Italy as an end result of the Papacy unifying the peninsula rather than Sardinia-Piedmont. The government will be a theocracy with a legislature made up by the local bishops and the college of cardinals. The Pope will have a very interventionist foreign policy, seeking to protect Catholic minorities across the globe and hopefully regain the Holy Land from Ottoman tyranny.

That contradicts pretty much the entire previous story.

[Lumine]

I'm not going to say a Papal Theocracy is not fascinating... but yeah, I don't think I can make that work at all. Italy has been unified since the 1860's and did pretty well in the 1901-1908 period (creating a large colonial empire), so while it is possible that they could have gone revolutionary or authoritarian, I really can't think of a plausible scenario for Papal Italy.

Any chance you have an alternate idea or proposal?

PS: I've started writing the other countries's backstories as well, there will be a thread for that.

[Lumine]

USA backstory now finished!

I'm sorry it's so extended (most shouldn't be as nearly as long), but I had a lot of fun exploring such a grim scenario. I hope you'll find it enjoyable, or at least, amusing. (Also, no commentary on the info thread)

[Weyfield]

Intriguing scenario - nicely done, Lumine. Very much looking forward to reading the others.

[Mauldania]

Looks great.

[White Trash]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

USA backstory now finished!

Bloody brilliant, Lumine!

I, for one, welcome a fellow military despot XD

[Cranberry]

Oh yes, the US backstory really is great. Will we get similar ones for the other countries as well?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

[White Trash]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

[Cranberry]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

Too bad it's not plausible, because I'd love to see the Papal tanks landing in Palestine.

[White Trash]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

Too bad it's not plausible, because I'd love to see the Papal tanks landing in Palestine.

I think I'll do a theocratic Italy with Papal backing rather than complete Papal control. If that's acceptable of course.

[Cranberry]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

Too bad it's not plausible, because I'd love to see the Papal tanks landing in Palestine.

I think I'll do a theocratic Italy with Papal backing rather than complete Papal control. If that's acceptable of course.

That's obviously for Lumine to decide, but again, I just don't see any potential for a theocratic power to arise in early 20th-century Italy, not in OTL and even less so ITL - no one with any remote power and gravitas would back anything like that.

[windjammer]

Lumine, if you need anything, do not hesitate to PM me.

[windjammer]

Regarding Italy, if I remember correctly, Mussolini made a deal with the pope during the 1920's. Of course he didnt respect most of his deal with the Pope. But a compromise between what Lumine and what SouthernGothic wants could be a better deal for the pope that Italt would have respecter?
For example, the Pope being the "governor" of the  region of Rome and having a say in italian policies? I honestly this is a plausible scebario considering how much italians wanted to reconcile with the pope.

As you wish

[Lumine]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

Too bad it's not plausible, because I'd love to see the Papal tanks landing in Palestine.

I think I'll do a theocratic Italy with Papal backing rather than complete Papal control. If that's acceptable of course.

That seems a bit better, really.

Now, I decided on a Papal Italy itself being impossible to enact, but I think it's perfectly possible for us to do a militant dictatorship in Italy that is fanatically catholic and nationalistic, with the dictator and the Pope being in league in a quid-pro-quo arrangement.

Considering that during the Spanish Civil War the Papacy went as far as to call the struggle of the Nationalists a "crusade", I think it's perfectly possible a fanatical pope would have given full backing to a regime of these sorts.

Would you find that interesting, Southern Gothic?

[Lumine]

USA backstory now finished!

Bloody brilliant, Lumine!

I, for one, welcome a fellow military despot XD

Oh yes, the US backstory really is great. Will we get similar ones for the other countries as well?

Thanks!

That is precisely the point, but writing these takes time, which is why I started now. Once we settle China and Italy and I finish writing, we can start.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

This is so high energy my head is 'bout to explode

[NeverAgain]

USA backstory now finished!

Bloody brilliant, Lumine!

I, for one, welcome a fellow military despot XD

Oh yes, the US backstory really is great. Will we get similar ones for the other countries as well?

Thanks!

That is precisely the point, but writing these takes time, which is why I started now. Once we settle China and Italy and I finish writing, we can start.

I am going to be posting China in a minute, I am doing a little research ATM beforehand.

[Blair]

For what it's worth my russian knowledge is based on WW2, and my AS level about the Russian Revolution

[White Trash]

Could I do a Papal orchestrated Coup d'etat against the Kingdom of Italy? So now its a republic that is a theocracy in all but name?

Obviously it's up to Lumine. I do sincerely hope that if he finds that storyline implausible, you'll still remain as Italy player.

I'll be Italy no matter what. I just want to be a bloody theocrat is all

Just my five cents, this is obviously all up to Lumine (and you), but I don't really find such a theocrat scenario plausible at all - where would the pope suddenly get the power to implement such a coup d'état? But as said, please you do you, play Italy only the way you want to (and our god and master Lumine allows )

Too bad it's not plausible, because I'd love to see the Papal tanks landing in Palestine.

I think I'll do a theocratic Italy with Papal backing rather than complete Papal control. If that's acceptable of course.

That seems a bit better, really.

Now, I decided on a Papal Italy itself being impossible to enact, but I think it's perfectly possible for us to do a militant dictatorship in Italy that is fanatically catholic and nationalistic, with the dictator and the Pope being in league in a quid-pro-quo arrangement.

Considering that during the Spanish Civil War the Papacy went as far as to call the struggle of the Nationalists a "crusade", I think it's perfectly possible a fanatical pope would have given full backing to a regime of these sorts.

Would you find that interesting, Southern Gothic?

Sounds good to me! My leader will be Emperor Victor Emmanuel III of Italy.

[Lumine]

Good to hear, Southern Gothic!

I'll add the Kingdom of Italy to the list then to work on the backstory. Feel free to add any details, proposals or suggestions so we can flesh out your nation more (events, dates, specifics on ideology, what Pope you'd like, and so on).

[Lumine]

For what it's worth my russian knowledge is based on WW2, and my AS level about the Russian Revolution

No worries, Blair, my level of russian knowledge is probably more limited, so I won't be going overboard with detail. There's a lot (and I mean a lot) that I have to write for the Russian context, so feel free to add any ideas you have in mind for the backstory and the nature of Kerensky's government.

[White Trash]

Good to hear, Southern Gothic!

I'll add the Kingdom of Italy to the list then to work on the backstory. Feel free to add any details, proposals or suggestions so we can flesh out your nation more (events, dates, specifics on ideology, what Pope you'd like, and so on).

How free am I in deciding the back story?