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« on: January 17, 2019, 05:19:32 PM »

Christian schools have every right to hold students and faculty to Biblical standards of conduct.  That's why they're in business.  I'm sure that if a student came to a Christian school and recruited for Stormfront, they'd be expelled, and that's within the perogative of a Christian school.  This school will not allow for homosexual behavior or advocacy of same.  That's their perogative. 

The legality of gay marriage may well be a settled issue for my lifetime, as the legality of abortion appears to be.  The acceptability and moral correctness of those issues is most certainly not settled, however.  At least not on Earth.  These issues ARE most certainly settled in Heaven, however, and certainly not in the manner of Supreme Court rulings. 

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity.  Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

Did we ever resolved that issue that the original translation of the Bible arguably states do not lie with male relatives any more than one would lie with female relatives, because both are an abomination? Or words to that effect at any rate?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2019, 09:21:14 PM »

Christian schools have every right to hold students and faculty to Biblical standards of conduct.  That's why they're in business.  I'm sure that if a student came to a Christian school and recruited for Stormfront, they'd be expelled, and that's within the perogative of a Christian school.  This school will not allow for homosexual behavior or advocacy of same.  That's their perogative. 

The legality of gay marriage may well be a settled issue for my lifetime, as the legality of abortion appears to be.  The acceptability and moral correctness of those issues is most certainly not settled, however.  At least not on Earth.  These issues ARE most certainly settled in Heaven, however, and certainly not in the manner of Supreme Court rulings. 

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity.  Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

Did we ever resolved that issue that the original translation of the Bible arguably states do not lie with male relatives any more than one would lie with female relatives, because both are an abomination? Or words to that effect at any rate?
The original translations of the Levitical passages referred more to pagan sexual rituals involving men moreso than homosexuality outright.


I don't know Hebrew (I know a little Greek), so maybe I'm wrong.  But how did every Christian and Jew get it wrong before the 20th century?

The very very short story is that the mistranslation was made, iirc, around the 3rd or 4th Century ad, and everything else delved from that.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 10:01:26 AM »

Christian schools have every right to hold students and faculty to Biblical standards of conduct.  That's why they're in business.  I'm sure that if a student came to a Christian school and recruited for Stormfront, they'd be expelled, and that's within the perogative of a Christian school.  This school will not allow for homosexual behavior or advocacy of same.  That's their perogative. 
Why are you so certain about this? Such activities would not contradict a "biblical lifestyle". In fact depending on the interpretation of the Curse of Ham, they would be entirely in line with biblical teaching.
Absolute nonsense.

I'm not going to comment on some extremist academy you might find in some obscure place, but 99% of Christian schools would not put up with this, nor would they consider this in line with Biblical teaching. 

Posts like this are pure propaganda, repeating a falsehood to where it will seem real to some who don't know better.

That 99% you so blithely claim would have been more like 50/50 less than 60 years ago, and a distinct minority south of the Mason-Dixon line. Please don't rewrite history as if the word of God was not actively and widely used as an excuse to forestall interracial marriage.

The word of God is eternal, fuzzy, but Humanity's misuse and misunderstanding of it is likewise timeless, and constantly needs to be struggled against.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2019, 01:27:36 AM »

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity. Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

In 20-30 years, when your denomination sanctions gay marriage and even your particular church building performs them, you'll find some contrivance for how you were never actually wrong and the church isn't now either. Maybe a long string of paragraphs about how Muslims were always worse to the gays or something.


Ding ding ding ding ding ding! Correct answer.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2019, 03:10:26 AM »


Is this all you have? Of course it is, considering who you are....

Do you have anything yourself to offer other than that personal attack on Hagrid? If not, FYI that's something of a concession that he's right.

Tick tock tick tock....
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2019, 07:51:29 PM »

So I guess you approve of having drag queens tell "story time" to small children, and having them taught about these sorts of things. That seems to be out of line.

Are you homophobic, Calthrina?

What? No. But I think a line needs to be drawn between what is acceptable and what is not.

And that line should be drawn.... Where now?
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 01:22:42 AM »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

That is an incredibly over broad statement. First off, there are many religious people, including Christians like myself, who have exactly zero problem with LBG TQ marriage or rights. Secondly, the theological and political differences between Orthodox and reform I need Christians such as fuzzy in myself really really don't begin to determine or even offer a worthwhile explanation is to whether and why God exists.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2019, 11:28:55 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2019, 11:33:29 PM by Badger »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

Posts like this lead me to believe that Stacey Abrams' loss was a good thing.  She's a candidate that I had hoped would win, but imagining her Administration being populated by folks with your worldview is hardly a comforting thought.
It’s very weird that you’re glad the Governor who would have expanded access to healthcare to 500,000 Georgians lost because of a random post on the Internet. I’m intrigued that I have so much power over you.
I cannot believe that you consider that I, or persons like me, have legitimate issues that government ought to address.  I believe that because I present as a white, Christian, non-liberal (not always conservative, however), you would dismiss my petitions/grievances, regardless of the merits.  If you worked for Abrams, you'd filter the information to her.  If Abrams hired you, she'd know what you were about.

I judge candidates in part by their campaign help.  Those people are likely the people who will populate their administration.

Come on fuzzy. Surely you would agree that it is unfair to judge a grubenatutorial candidate whose Statewide campaign had literally tens of thousands of campaign workers like RFK fan, that your disagreement with one of them it's a worthy basis to judge? I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but surely would agree this isn't like RFK was going to be in Abrams cabinet, or even I assume getting some third-tier internship if she won.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 01:04:12 AM »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

Posts like this lead me to believe that Stacey Abrams' loss was a good thing.  She's a candidate that I had hoped would win, but imagining her Administration being populated by folks with your worldview is hardly a comforting thought.
It’s very weird that you’re glad the Governor who would have expanded access to healthcare to 500,000 Georgians lost because of a random post on the Internet. I’m intrigued that I have so much power over you.
I cannot believe that you consider that I, or persons like me, have legitimate issues that government ought to address.  I believe that because I present as a white, Christian, non-liberal (not always conservative, however), you would dismiss my petitions/grievances, regardless of the merits.  If you worked for Abrams, you'd filter the information to her.  If Abrams hired you, she'd know what you were about.

I judge candidates in part by their campaign help.  Those people are likely the people who will populate their administration.

Come on fuzzy. Surely you would agree that it is unfair to judge a grubenatutorial candidate whose Statewide campaign had literally tens of thousands of campaign workers like RFK fan, that your disagreement with one of them it's a worthy basis to judge? I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but surely would agree this isn't like RFK was going to be in Abrams cabinet, or even I assume getting some third-tier internship if she won.

You would judge Trump by that standard. 

You just judged a whole group of school students by the hats that some of them wore, and supported lies and misrepresentations about their conduct.  Stacy Abrams can bear the baggage of RFKfan68.

You are factually wrong on all three of your attempted points. First, I judge Trump by Trump. The fact that they were hurt people on this for who I consider absolute dipsh**tz would not keep me from supporting say Sanders or certain other Democrats just because they do as well.

Second, I'm really disappointed, and frankly a little offended that what you stated about my judging the Covington Clan kids and for what reasons. It's like you didn't read a single damn post I'm a on the subject even though I made the same points over and over and over and over and over again. When people say conservatives don't listen, responses like this tend to prove them right. I similarly judge them by their conduct, or rather misconduct, which I saw with my own two eyes and heard with my own two ears, and nothing else. You are creating strawman just like when you claimed that there were people reluctant to criticize the Black Hebrew Israelites, when in fact those individuals simply do not just exist, either on the form, or is best I can tell elsewhere in the world.

Third, for the reasons stated above, judging a candidate for governor of the 12th largest state in the country are the statements of one of literally tens of thousands of campaign workers is ridiculous. Well that might make you justifiably think less of Abraham's on the whole the company you keep, making that a veto consideration for supporting her is, well, frankly the side of being triggered a little like RFK fan needled you about. You know that's silly.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2019, 04:59:01 PM »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

Posts like this lead me to believe that Stacey Abrams' loss was a good thing.  She's a candidate that I had hoped would win, but imagining her Administration being populated by folks with your worldview is hardly a comforting thought.
It’s very weird that you’re glad the Governor who would have expanded access to healthcare to 500,000 Georgians lost because of a random post on the Internet. I’m intrigued that I have so much power over you.
I cannot believe that you consider that I, or persons like me, have legitimate issues that government ought to address.  I believe that because I present as a white, Christian, non-liberal (not always conservative, however), you would dismiss my petitions/grievances, regardless of the merits.  If you worked for Abrams, you'd filter the information to her.  If Abrams hired you, she'd know what you were about.

I judge candidates in part by their campaign help.  Those people are likely the people who will populate their administration.

Come on fuzzy. Surely you would agree that it is unfair to judge a grubenatutorial candidate whose Statewide campaign had literally tens of thousands of campaign workers like RFK fan, that your disagreement with one of them it's a worthy basis to judge? I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but surely would agree this isn't like RFK was going to be in Abrams cabinet, or even I assume getting some third-tier internship if she won.

You would judge Trump by that standard.  

You just judged a whole group of school students by the hats that some of them wore, and supported lies and misrepresentations about their conduct.  Stacy Abrams can bear the baggage of RFKfan68.

You are factually wrong on all three of your attempted points. First, I judge Trump by Trump. The fact that they were hurt people on this for who I consider absolute dipsh**tz would not keep me from supporting say Sanders or certain other Democrats just because they do as well.

Second, I'm really disappointed, and frankly a little offended that what you stated about my judging the Covington Clan kids and for what reasons. It's like you didn't read a single damn post I'm a on the subject even though I made the same points over and over and over and over and over again. When people say conservatives don't listen, responses like this tend to prove them right. I similarly judge them by their conduct, or rather misconduct, which I saw with my own two eyes and heard with my own two ears, and nothing else. You are creating strawman just like when you claimed that there were people reluctant to criticize the Black Hebrew Israelites, when in fact those individuals simply do not just exist, either on the form, or is best I can tell elsewhere in the world.

Third, for the reasons stated above, judging a candidate for governor of the 12th largest state in the country are the statements of one of literally tens of thousands of campaign workers is ridiculous. Well that might make you justifiably think less of Abraham's on the whole the company you keep, making that a veto consideration for supporting her is, well, frankly the side of being triggered a little like RFK fan needled you about. You know that's silly.

This entire paragraph defies reason. You jumped down upon those schoolboys as if they were equivalent to Hitler or the KKK, and pushed that continuously across dozens of posts, through some twenty pages of content. For you to claim now that you were treating the situation based only upon "what you saw", and not upon your own biases, is absurd. Hence, when someone says that you would judge Trump based upon similarly hypocritical standards, they are correct. Moreover, your claim that "conservatives don't listen" is also a falsehood. There are people on both ends of the ideological spectrum who are capable of engaging in orderly debate, and who can change their minds if they feel that they were wrong previously.

Um, no? Are you aware that literally everything you just typed is factually incorrect?

And for the record, my biggest objection has never been the racist students. It's with the grown adults adamantly defending Behavior they themselves at least should be old enough to recognize as unacceptable in society today, and rightly so.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2019, 06:02:25 PM »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

Posts like this lead me to believe that Stacey Abrams' loss was a good thing.  She's a candidate that I had hoped would win, but imagining her Administration being populated by folks with your worldview is hardly a comforting thought.
It’s very weird that you’re glad the Governor who would have expanded access to healthcare to 500,000 Georgians lost because of a random post on the Internet. I’m intrigued that I have so much power over you.
I cannot believe that you consider that I, or persons like me, have legitimate issues that government ought to address.  I believe that because I present as a white, Christian, non-liberal (not always conservative, however), you would dismiss my petitions/grievances, regardless of the merits.  If you worked for Abrams, you'd filter the information to her.  If Abrams hired you, she'd know what you were about.

I judge candidates in part by their campaign help.  Those people are likely the people who will populate their administration.

Come on fuzzy. Surely you would agree that it is unfair to judge a grubenatutorial candidate whose Statewide campaign had literally tens of thousands of campaign workers like RFK fan, that your disagreement with one of them it's a worthy basis to judge? I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but surely would agree this isn't like RFK was going to be in Abrams cabinet, or even I assume getting some third-tier internship if she won.

You would judge Trump by that standard. 

You just judged a whole group of school students by the hats that some of them wore, and supported lies and misrepresentations about their conduct.  Stacy Abrams can bear the baggage of RFKfan68.

You are factually wrong on all three of your attempted points. First, I judge Trump by Trump. The fact that they were hurt people on this for who I consider absolute dipsh**tz would not keep me from supporting say Sanders or certain other Democrats just because they do as well.

Second, I'm really disappointed, and frankly a little offended that what you stated about my judging the Covington Clan kids and for what reasons. It's like you didn't read a single damn post I'm a on the subject even though I made the same points over and over and over and over and over again. When people say conservatives don't listen, responses like this tend to prove them right. I similarly judge them by their conduct, or rather misconduct, which I saw with my own two eyes and heard with my own two ears, and nothing else. You are creating strawman just like when you claimed that there were people reluctant to criticize the Black Hebrew Israelites, when in fact those individuals simply do not just exist, either on the form, or is best I can tell elsewhere in the world.

Third, for the reasons stated above, judging a candidate for governor of the 12th largest state in the country are the statements of one of literally tens of thousands of campaign workers is ridiculous. Well that might make you justifiably think less of Abraham's on the whole the company you keep, making that a veto consideration for supporting her is, well, frankly the side of being triggered a little like RFK fan needled you about. You know that's silly.

This entire paragraph defies reason. You jumped down upon those schoolboys as if they were equivalent to Hitler or the KKK, and pushed that continuously across dozens of posts, through some twenty pages of content. For you to claim now that you were treating the situation based only upon "what you saw", and not upon your own biases, is absurd. Hence, when someone says that you would judge Trump based upon similarly hypocritical standards, they are correct. Moreover, your claim that "conservatives don't listen" is also a falsehood. There are people on both ends of the ideological spectrum who are capable of engaging in orderly debate, and who can change their minds if they feel that they were wrong previously.

Um, no? Are you aware that literally everything you just typed is factually incorrect?

And for the record, my biggest objection has never been the racist students. It's with the grown adults adamantly defending Behavior they themselves at least should be old enough to recognize as unacceptable in society today, and rightly so.

Deny all that you want, but your words speak for themselves. And now you're deflecting by claiming the "adults" were at fault, when it was plain that you were bashing the students directly for their actions.

Pretty evidence lacking post you just put there. So yes, my words do speak for themselves. Your complete inability to comprehend them outside of your own chronic narrative is you being you.

And let's make it clear. Of course I've always, and probably continue to condemned those racist misogynistic privileged little s**** for their protest misbehavior. However, I will be equally say that I am more bothered by adults acrostic right-wing Spectrum rally round idiot Boys in pure racial solidarity, and in doing so have a great family minimized where is an outright denied what it means to be racist.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2019, 11:56:49 AM »

She’s trash. I am so grateful I left behind religion and all of its toxicity. I refuse to debate FACTS with these religious zealot lunatics.

Posts like this lead me to believe that Stacey Abrams' loss was a good thing.  She's a candidate that I had hoped would win, but imagining her Administration being populated by folks with your worldview is hardly a comforting thought.
It’s very weird that you’re glad the Governor who would have expanded access to healthcare to 500,000 Georgians lost because of a random post on the Internet. I’m intrigued that I have so much power over you.
I cannot believe that you consider that I, or persons like me, have legitimate issues that government ought to address.  I believe that because I present as a white, Christian, non-liberal (not always conservative, however), you would dismiss my petitions/grievances, regardless of the merits.  If you worked for Abrams, you'd filter the information to her.  If Abrams hired you, she'd know what you were about.

I judge candidates in part by their campaign help.  Those people are likely the people who will populate their administration.

Come on fuzzy. Surely you would agree that it is unfair to judge a grubenatutorial candidate whose Statewide campaign had literally tens of thousands of campaign workers like RFK fan, that your disagreement with one of them it's a worthy basis to judge? I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but surely would agree this isn't like RFK was going to be in Abrams cabinet, or even I assume getting some third-tier internship if she won.

You would judge Trump by that standard. 

You just judged a whole group of school students by the hats that some of them wore, and supported lies and misrepresentations about their conduct.  Stacy Abrams can bear the baggage of RFKfan68.

You are factually wrong on all three of your attempted points. First, I judge Trump by Trump. The fact that they were hurt people on this for who I consider absolute dipsh**tz would not keep me from supporting say Sanders or certain other Democrats just because they do as well.

Second, I'm really disappointed, and frankly a little offended that what you stated about my judging the Covington Clan kids and for what reasons. It's like you didn't read a single damn post I'm a on the subject even though I made the same points over and over and over and over and over again. When people say conservatives don't listen, responses like this tend to prove them right. I similarly judge them by their conduct, or rather misconduct, which I saw with my own two eyes and heard with my own two ears, and nothing else. You are creating strawman just like when you claimed that there were people reluctant to criticize the Black Hebrew Israelites, when in fact those individuals simply do not just exist, either on the form, or is best I can tell elsewhere in the world.

Third, for the reasons stated above, judging a candidate for governor of the 12th largest state in the country are the statements of one of literally tens of thousands of campaign workers is ridiculous. Well that might make you justifiably think less of Abraham's on the whole the company you keep, making that a veto consideration for supporting her is, well, frankly the side of being triggered a little like RFK fan needled you about. You know that's silly.

This entire paragraph defies reason. You jumped down upon those schoolboys as if they were equivalent to Hitler or the KKK, and pushed that continuously across dozens of posts, through some twenty pages of content. For you to claim now that you were treating the situation based only upon "what you saw", and not upon your own biases, is absurd. Hence, when someone says that you would judge Trump based upon similarly hypocritical standards, they are correct. Moreover, your claim that "conservatives don't listen" is also a falsehood. There are people on both ends of the ideological spectrum who are capable of engaging in orderly debate, and who can change their minds if they feel that they were wrong previously.

Um, no? Are you aware that literally everything you just typed is factually incorrect?

And for the record, my biggest objection has never been the racist students. It's with the grown adults adamantly defending Behavior they themselves at least should be old enough to recognize as unacceptable in society today, and rightly so.

Deny all that you want, but your words speak for themselves. And now you're deflecting by claiming the "adults" were at fault, when it was plain that you were bashing the students directly for their actions.

Pretty evidence lacking post you just put there. So yes, my words do speak for themselves. Your complete inability to comprehend them outside of your own chronic narrative is you being you.

And let's make it clear. Of course I've always, and probably continue to condemned those racist misogynistic privileged little s**** for their protest misbehavior. However, I will be equally say that I am more bothered by adults acrostic right-wing Spectrum rally round idiot Boys in pure racial solidarity, and in doing so have a great family minimized where is an outright denied what it means to be racist.

So now you're blaming both the kids and the adults? That is something. And I perfectly understand what you have argued, and what you stand for. And your viewpoints are ones that I strongly disagree with. Moreover, why do you indulge so freely in the use of profanity? Is there no other way for you to articulate your thoughts, except to use foul language every other sentence? I would hope so.

His voice-to-text feature on his device is faulty.  I suggest he contact the manufacturer's rep.

The logic feature on your thinking device is faulty. I suggest you contact the manufacturer's rep.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2019, 04:08:08 PM »

Sodomy is forbidden in the Bible because it disturbs the digestive and excretioniary system, which is the source of one's feeling of being rooted in reality. When this system (referred to as the root chakra in Hinduism) is disturbed (whether because of indigestion or other means), one is much more open to manipulation by malicious spiritual and worldly forces. Thus homosexual and heterosexual sodomy are normalized by Hollywood and pornography, both of which exist primarily to manipulate the psyche of the masses.

All of this must be understood by both sides of the heteronormativity debate.

Are you alright?

You don't get it, do you?

I will say that this is one of the most awesomely cryptic efforts in the History of Atlas.

A-plus for effort.



Are YOU alright, Fuzzy?
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