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« on: July 17, 2018, 08:19:13 PM »
« edited: August 08, 2019, 08:50:06 PM by ∀lex »

Legislative, Presidencial, and some Provincial elections will be held in Argentina on 29 October 2017.
The election is held in up to "two"-and-a-half rounds: the PASO (August 13), the actual election and a possible second round between the two most voted Presidential candidates

Today we had the first official announcement of a declared candidacy from the Presidency....

Guillermo Moreno (PJ-Unidad Ciudadana , the very controversial kircherista secretary of commerce (officially a lower rank position) and later the economy attache to the Embassy at Italy (because he is pals with a good friend of Pope Francis). His only declared policy as of today is that "if he wins he'll the give (the 51% that is owned by the state of) YPF (the partially state-owned oil and gas corporation) to the CGT (the largest labor union confederation)

He is extremely unpopular, and is remember for his extremely shady control over the National Statistics Institute (Indec), which he used to fake every economical statistic imaginable (including the inflation rate and the poverty line) and his very unlikeable personality (there's the rumor that he used a revolver to threaten business owners on private meatings)

He was sentenced in 2017 to a 2 and a half year suspnded sentence and banned for life from holding public office  for malversation after wasting over US$ 20,000 of public funds in balloons, flags and posters attacking an opposition newspaper

Moreno's list got 2.8% of the votes in the 2017 Buenos Aires City PASO

He would participate in a broad Partido Justicialista (PJ) - Frente para la Victoria (FpV) primary
In coclusion, he has no chance of winning,


Other politicians that said they'd like to run (but haven't made any official announcements) include:

-Mauricio Macri (Cambiemos-Pro )

-Juan Manuel Urtubey ( PJ ), governor of the very conservative northern province of Salta since 2007, and the peronista governor that is closest to the national govenment

-Felipe Solá (PJ-Frente Renovador , 2002-07 governor of Buenos Aires Province for FPV-PJ, he later turned to the opposition and became one of Sergio Massa's strongest allies, he'd run in a PJ primary, including one with Cristina. He's been a Representative for Buenos Aires Province since 2009, being most re-elected in 2017 for Massa's Frente Renovador

-Agustin Rossi Unidad Cludadana, leader of the Unidad Ciudadana block in the House of Representatives (the group closest to Cristina Kirchner)

-Ricardo Alfonsín Cambiemos-UCR), Presidential candidate for the UCR in 2011, and one of the harshest critics of the national government within Cambiemos


Rumored and undeclared candidates:

 -Cristina Kirchner( Unidad Ciudadana)
 -Maria Eugenia Vidal (Cambiemos-Pro,govenor of Buenos Aires Province and one of the most popular paliticians aligned with the national government




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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2018, 01:01:14 AM »

Pichetto broke with the FPV and formed his own caucus Argentina Federal, he's trying to call someone else to run so that Cristina won't get all the PJ votes in the first round
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 08:46:01 AM »

Universidad de San Andrés, June


Management & Fit, released yesterday
35% approve, 54.9 disapprove

Poliarquia, June
42% approve, 55% disapprove



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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2018, 03:21:10 AM »

Just a short update

The economy is in an even worse state than it was a few months ago (we just had the peso's second large devaluation in two months [by this time last year 1 Dollar =17 pesos, now it's at 38, and on Thursday it got to 42 on some private banks, losing 15% of its value in one single day], and again with no real planning by the govt, yearly inflation will be between 35 and 45%, Macri asked the IMF to get all the funds a lot earlier than expected, wage stagnation, negative economic growth, constantly rising costs of public services and oil, etc)

Cristina's intentions to run are clearer than ever before, but she's deep involved in a huge a corruption case that's being investigated by a national judge, and there's been quite few businessmen close to the Kirchnerista government, politicians and people close to politicians (mainly their drivers and secretaries) who have acted under the Repentance Law and have gotten plea deals (or are trying to get them) in exchange for their declarations

The non-kirchnerista PJ+Massa still don't have a unified candidacy, and it's unclear if they'll try to cooperate with (aka get concessions from) the government

Their have been no significant declarations from the center left to form a united candidacy or primary
Macri is at his weakest moment, due to the awful state of the economy
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 10:52:10 AM »
« Edited: April 23, 2019, 10:53:19 AM by ∀lex »

The state of the economy is still quite terrible: annual inflation got to 47,6% for 2018, the highest in the last 27 years, stagflation has become the norm, the GDP decreased by 3.5% last year, wages (from both the public and the private sector) have risen by a lot less than the inflation rate, and every economic prediction made by the government has failed by a mile (or more)

Major presidential candidates and parties:

Cambiemos:
-Mauricio Macri (Pro) is the only candidate from within the government coalition running for the presidency once again, after Lilita Carrió officially retired and Maria Eugenia Vidal will run for reelection as Governor of the Province of Buenos Aires

-Martín Lousteau (ECO?), the 2015 candiate for “Mayor” of Buenos Aires, currently a representative for the City in Congress, and former Economy Minister and President of the Central Bank under Cristina, hasn’t yet decided on whether he’ll run for president, mayor or for Congress, and depending on which office he choses he may run within Cambiemos, possibly in a primary with more loyalist politicians, or outside the coalition

Unidad Ciudadana/Frente para la Victoria:
-Cristina Fernández de Kirchner hasn’t confirmed if she will run for the presidency, she’s the only politician from her block with real chances of getting to the second round, as the other ones are a very few ultra-loyalist minor politicians

-Guillermo Moreno, the controversial former Secretary of Commerce (a theoretically lower position than its US homonym), mostly known for manipulation every possible statistic he could get his guns on, violently threatening businessmen on private conferences, his aggresive personality and his weird connections to Pope Francis is actively running for the presidency, even if everyone else thinks he’s a joke

-Daniel Scioli,  the FPV candidate for president (and runner up) in the 2015 elections, will be launching his campaign in a few hours. Apparently he'd be running a very moderate campaign and supports a large-field Peronista primary and he would stop his campaign if Cristina confirms that she will run

-Agustin Rossi, the head of the FPV in the lower house will run if Cristina doesn't

-Felipe Solá, Diputado since 2007 and former Governor of Buenos Aires Province for FPV. He went into the opposition in 2008, went into an alliance with Pro and later became a key member of Massa's Frente Renovador, he became closer to Cristina in late 2018. He will run if Cristina doesn't


Non Kirchnerista wing of the Partido Justicialista/Alternativa Federal/Frente Renovador:

-Roberto Lavagna, Nestor Kirchner’s Economy Minister and 2007 presidential candidate, has bee touted by many important peronist politicians (including former president Eduardo Duhalde and senator Miguel Ángel Pichetto) as the main contender for the non-kirchnerista wing of the PJ, he hasn’t yet confirmed his run in (although he has been talking about it a lot more in the last week), and he’s still opposed to participating in the peronist primaries, so far he has gotten generally very positive results in the polls for a third party candidates.

-Sergio Massa, the leader of the Frente Renovador, third-placer in the 2015 presidential elections, is the other main contender from the Peronista / independent block, he wants to run, but after his ultimately disappointing results in 2015 and 2017 he has very little backing from within the political class

- Juan Manuel Urtubey, the Governor of Salta is also running and officially launched his campaign in late January

- Humberto Tumini, for some reason the leader of Libres del Sur (a small left-wing party) decided to run in this primary

Alternativa Federal has recently rejected the possibility of participating against FPV in the primaries

Other candidates:

Marcelo Tinelli: the host of the TV show with the largest audience in the country (Showmatch, a combo of sketch comedy, a very raunchy version of Dancing with the Stars and internal drama) hasn’t confirmed if he’ll run, but the chances of him doing so don’t look particularly high, even though he could easily be the most voted candidate outside of the traditional parties. Update: He won't run for president, and has been quite close to Lavagna in recent weeks

Partido Libertario

-José Luis Espert, the economist and frequent pop-political TV show guest, launched the local Libertarian Party a few months ago

Alfredo Olmedo: the controversial congressman in the yellow jacket from Salta is running to the right of everyone om social issues and has got some support from Evangelical leader after his recent born-again baptism Update: he was the first major candidate to drop from the race (in late March), he wil run for the Governorship of Salta. In his final declarations he cassually mentioned his fears of the legalization of zoophilia and how the government supports the otherkin

The usual suspects:

Frente de Izquierda y de los Trabajadores: the main hard-left alliance will most likely have a primary between its 2 member parties with Nicolas del Caño and Jorge Altamira Romina Del Plá as the most likely candiates for each of its wings. Maybe they'll run as a united list in the PASO, maybe they'll run against each other

Izquierda al Frente por el Socialismo: the other, and much smaller Trotskyist coalition, they have no chances of getting to the actual elections as they won’t be able to get anywhere near the percentage needed to get over the PASO primaries. Their pre-candidates are Celeste Fierro and Manuela Castañeira

Mauricio Yattah, a perennial candidate mostly known for his personal "War of the Dividing Wall" ( a legal feud with his neighbor, a local judge, in the beach city of Mar del Plata ), and less well-know for trying to lazily pretend to be Mauricio Macri in the 2015 ballot, and his crazy self-help-style messages on his """"party'""" buildings, he claims to be a "21st Century Anarchist"

The far right may run a few candidates with 0 chances of getting anywhere

The traditional center-left non-kirchnerista parties (Partido Socialista, Margarita Stolbizer’s GEN haven’t done anything so far, Update: some PS leaders have been very close to Lavagna


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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 10:16:39 AM »

A few small updates:

There are ongoing talks inside Cambiemos about whether they should let Lousteau to participate in the party's presidential primary, or if he should run for senator, with a few national UCR politicians and many local ones trying to convince Pro of letting him run

In La Pampa Province the UCR's Daniel Kroneberger (65%) defeated Pro's Javier Mac Allister (35%), and in Cordoba the UCR and Pro failed to make a united ballot for the provincial general election and will compete with each other in the primaries, OTOH Pro's candidate for governor dropped out and the only candidate for Cambiemos will be UCR's candiate, now the mayor of Santa Fe city


The IMF has been meeting with opposition leaders, including Lavagna, Massa and kirchnerista hardliner Kicillof

Alternativa Federal would present a unified list for congress, and it looks like there won't be multiple AF primary lists competing against each other



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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2019, 02:31:11 PM »
« Edited: March 14, 2019, 06:44:25 PM by ∀lex »

Daniel Scioli, the FPV candidate for president (and runner up) in the 2015 elections, will be launching his campaign in a few hours. Apparently he'd be running a very moderate campaign and supports a large-field Peronista primary and he would stop his campaign if Cristina confirms that she will run

In other news, the Cambiemos coalición won't be running united in the Province of Córdoba, as the UCR will run on it's own and won't participle in the Cambiemos primaries
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2019, 09:38:54 AM »

Alternative Federal will wait until June to decide if their presidential candidates will ran against each other in the PASO (as preferred by Massa and Urtubey) or if there will be only one ballot for president in the alliance (as preferred by Lavagna)
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2019, 06:03:50 PM »

Lousteau said today that he's officially leaving Cambiemos
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 06:52:06 PM »

Cristina launched her book Sinceramente (Sincerely) in an act today, it has been considered by many as her unofficial campaign launch
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 06:30:19 PM »
« Edited: May 12, 2019, 07:15:16 PM by ∀lex »

Today, Córdoba Province (the second largest, with 3.5 million inhabitants -roughly 8% of the country's total population) voted for Governor, state legislators and county authorities (including mayors)

The result was quite predictable, as Córdoba is the most anti-kirchnerista province (the FPV didn't even run a candidate for Governor),Cambiemos presented 2 different competing lists and it's not a Province that's friendly to far-left candidates

Despite only 4.77% of the votes have been counted so far, the winner is very clear

-Juan Schiaretti (inc.) (Hacemos por Córdoba/Alternativa Federal/PJ) : 59.97%
-Mario Negri (Córdoba Cambia/UCR+Pro) 16.62%
- Ramón Mestre (Unión Cívica Radical) 12.10%
Everyone else (Encuentro Vecinal [a Cordoba-based socially conservative party], Frente de Izquierda [left wing], MST [left wing] Partido Humanista [center left], Vecinalismo Independiente [right wing?] , Unión Ciudadana [Libertarians] , UCeDe [fiscally conservative, used to be relevant in the '80s and 90s] MAS [left wing] and Mov Acción Vecinal [IDK]) under 2% each

The De La Sota-Schiaretti conservative wing of the PJ has been governing the Province since 1999

Minor update: with 23% of the votes counted Schiaretti Is now slightly under 50%
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2019, 09:47:31 PM »
« Edited: May 31, 2019, 10:00:21 PM by ∀lex »

Lavagna officially launched his new party, Consenso 19 , outside of Alternativa Federal

And Massa is still undecided on whether he should run for Alternativa Federal or a broader Peronista front with kirchnerism.

I saw an interview with Pichetto last night and he was practically on the verge of crying, that's how much of a mess AF has become in these last couple of weeks
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2019, 05:12:23 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2019, 07:22:23 AM by ∀lex »

Massa and Alberto Fernández will meet tomorrow

Pichetto (PJ, one of the leaders of Alternativa until today ) will be Macri's VP candidate

Urtubey is the only one left of (the now a lot smaller and less relevant) Alternativa's presidential candidates, VP candidate still unknown

FIT and MST agreed to get into a coalition with each other

There are talks about allowing governors to be on more than one coalition's ballots, which is obviously trying to help Maria Eugenia Vidal (Pro-Cambiemos) attempt at being reelected as Governor of Buenos Aires Province

Tomorrow is the day for coalitions to be officially registered (cierre de listas) at the national level and the 22nd will be the last day for nominating individual candidates and ballots

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2019, 10:11:47 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2019, 10:15:44 PM by ∀lex »


Yes, this part wasn't particularly surprising, as Michetti is very dull, usually not very focused on policy, she doesn't get Macri any new voters, the UCR never liked here and in the odd case where she speaks about anything she makes the government look worse
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2019, 11:53:20 PM »



I haven't been following this race.  I know Macri is very unpopular, but ignore who could be the winning horse. Is there a clear favourite, or a group of well placed candidates? Maybe it's too early...

The main contenders are clearly Fernandez-Fernandez and Macri (both with numbers from the low to high 30s), with most polls giving the kirchneristas the lead  (although Macri is getting closer in recent polls), with everyone else getting under 10%
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2019, 12:43:34 AM »
« Edited: June 23, 2019, 03:12:53 AM by ∀lex »

Presidential ballots:

Cambiemos Juntos por el Cambio: Mauricio Macri (Pro) - Miguel Ángel Pichetto (PJ)

Unidad Ciudadana/Frente Patriótico Frente de Todos:
         •Alberto Fernández - Cristina Fernánde de Kirchner
         •Sergio Massa (with Natalia De La Sota , daughter of the late governor of Córdoba as a potential VP candidate)
        •Daniel Scioli- VP not yet announced (I completely forgot that he's running)
        •Guillermo Moreno - Pablo Challú, although they'll probably be forced to run outside of this coalition

Consenso Federal 19 2030: Roberto Lavagna - Juan Manuel Urtubey

Alternativa Federal: Juan Manuel Urtubey - VP not yet announced

FIT+MST Unidad: Nicolás Del Caño (PTS, FIT) - Romina Del Plá (PO, FIT) [left wing alliance]

Frente Despertar: José Luis Espert (Partido Libertario) - VP not yet announced, he's trying to get celebrity nutiritionist doctor Alberto Cormillot as his ballot partner

Nuevo MAS: Manuela Castañeira - Eduardo Mulhall [left wing]

Partido NOS: Juan José Gómez Centurión - VP not yet announced
[nationalist, hardcore socially conservative, close to Evangelical churches and the pro-life movement]

Frente Patriota Bandera Vecinal: Alejandro Biondini - Enrique Venturino [far righ])

Partido Autonomista Nacional: "Pocho" Romero Feris - VP not yet announced [quasi-perennial candidate]

A.A.L.I.S.A. : Maurico Yattah - VP not yet announced (perennial candidate) ? Maybe he will run for Jefe de Gobierno (mayor/governor) of Buenos Aires City





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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2019, 01:18:27 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2019, 09:58:34 AM by ∀lex »



I haven't been following this race.  I know Macri is very unpopular, but ignore who could be the winning horse. Is there a clear favourite, or a group of well placed candidates? Maybe it's too early...

The main contenders are clearly Fernandez-Fernandez and Macri (both with numbers from the low to high 30s), with most polls giving the kirchneristas the lead  (although Macri is getting closer in recent polls), with everyone else getting under 10%

I should have imagined it was going to be like that. I'd like there was a dark horse somewhere, but it seems unlikely. The list of candidates that you have posted above is not very promising. Personally ai'd go for Lavagna, but maybe he's too old. Guess that I'll begin to follow the race this summer. Thank you for the information.

How about Lousteau and the other progressives? Any sign of life there?

Alternativa Federal was the possible dark horse, but after all the internal mess they've gone through this last month they've only been left with the weakest of their 3 presidential candiates and Lavagna got a lot of bad publicity after his rejection to participate in the AF PASO, and they both Alternativa and Lavagna lost any major potential

Cambiemos wants Lousteau to be their ballot's lead candidate in the Buenos Aires City Senate election

Lifschitz (Partido Socialista) and Stolbizer (GEN) are endorsing Lavagna, while Pino Solanas (Proyecto Sur) and Victoria Donda are now kirchneristas

Donda will run for Jefe de Gobierno (mayor/Governor) of Buenos Aires City for a left-wing coalition within Unidad Ciudadana. Mariano Recalde (ir maybe Matias Lammens) will be the mainstream kirchnerista candidate for that post in the PASO
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2019, 11:28:27 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2019, 12:54:30 PM by ∀lex »

The media are reporting a coalition between Lavagna and Urtubey, with Lavagna as presidential candidate and Urtubey as VP

Alberto Fernández and Sergio Massa agreed to each presenting their own internal ballot in the PASO primaries, Cristina is opposed to Massa participating in the PASO
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2019, 05:25:50 PM »

Some questions:
Which is rationality behind Massa and Scioli runnings? Does the 2nd placed in PASO replace main ticket if anythings happens?
Massa still wants to have a chance of being elected as president, I don't know why Scioli Is still running, and everyone forgot about his run
Yes, that's what happens for the Presidential duo, but not with the Congress candidates (bit it's unlikely that they'll have more than one sub-list for Congress)
Wouldn't Scioli or Massa better running for BA governorship. I know that Vidal is favourite but this is more winnable than fighting with Cristina?
Both have national ambitions, especially Massa who never wanted to be on the Province's government. Yes, I'd agree that both are better candidates than the current Kirchnerista formula of Kicillof-Magario.
And Cristina is ruthless at opposing candidates that she doesn't support in the race for the Governorship of Buenos Aires (aka why they chose an awful candidate in 2015 and lost against Vidal)
Wouldn't Lavagna better as mentor to a Massa-Lousteau ticket?
Probably yes, but egos are a big thing and both Massa and Lousteau hace had relatively large  political careers in important positions (for Massa, Director of the Social Security Agency, Chief of the Cabinet of Ministers, Congressman and leader of the 3rd largest electoral block, and Lousteau has been Minister of the Treasury, President of Banco Provincia, Congressman, Ambassador to the US and having been the only person with the ability to win the Jefatura de Gobierno from Pro) and they both shown a lot more respect for internal democracy than Lavagna
Also, I don't think that Massa and Lousteau have any special relation with each other
ill Hacemos por Cordoba follow Fernandez-Fernandez if Massa loses? Not likely (even if Massa somehow wins) , they prefer having decently good relations with all major blocks and Córdoba is the most anti-kirchnerista province, and cordobeses especially dislike Cristina
What is UCR thinking about being dropped for Pichetto?
Quite a few leaders liked it (or didn't care) as they wanted to expand Cambiemos and will likely use this to get more important roles in the provinces, and in Congress), others didn't
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2019, 11:31:51 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2019, 08:58:00 PM by ∀lex »

Electoral coalitions at the national level

Juntos por el Cambio: Pro (Macri's party),Unión Cívica Radical (historically one of the 2 large parties, originally radical liberalism, currently anywhere from center-left to center-right, but generally more social democratic than Pro), Coalición Cívica (the party of Congresswoman for Buenos Aires City Lilita Carrió), and a few minor parties, including 2 parties that were in Alternativa Federal

Frente de Tod☀️s: Partido Justicialista (the old Peronista party, currently mostly representing the governors' interests), Unidad Ciudadana (kirchnerismo), Frente Renovador (Massa), Somos (slightly populist left wing, Victoria Donda), Proyecto Sur (center left to left wing, Pino Solanas), Compromiso Federal (Rodríguez Saá, governors of San Luis), Nuevo Encuentro (the party for policy-centered and more left wing idealistic kirchneristas) and minor Kirchnerista, center-left, labor and communist (ML) parties
        
Consenso Federal 2030: Unión Federal (former members of Alternativa Federal, close to Urtubey), Partido Socialista, Tercera Posición (peronismo, led by labor union leader Luis Barrionuevo and his wife Graciela Camaño) GEN (center-left, Stolbizer), Libres del Sur  (slightly populist left wing, Victoria Donda's old party), Partido Demócrata Cristiano, with support from a few anti-Cambiemos members of the UCR

Frente de Izquierda - Unidad[/i]: Frente de Izquierda de los Trabajadores (Partido Obrero, Partido de los Trabajadores Socialista, Izquierda Socialista), Movimiento Socialista de los Trabajadores [all of them being trotskyist parties]

Frente Despertar: UCeDe (a fiscally conservative party that used to be relevant in the 80s and 90s), Unir (very right wing Peronismo, changes alliances in each single election) and informal support from Partido Libertario

Nuevo MAS (the other Trotskyist party)

Frene NOS: Fuerza Republicana (a very conservative and nationalist party from Tucumán Province, where its leader recently got 13% in the provincial election) and a few no-name right wing parties, with informal support from Valores para mí País (very socially conservative [pro-life, transphobic, anti "gender education", anti sex-ed]) [the coalition is fiscally conservative and very socially conservative]

Frente Patriota Bandera Vecinal (far right, nationalist, anti immigration, socially conservative, a lot more peronista/populist on the economy than other right wing parties, formerly neonazi]

Partido Autonomista Nacional (social conservative, pro-life, led by a quasi-perennial candidate]

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2019, 06:05:23 AM »

So all the Peronistas has come togheter i FDT i.e. Kirchner, Massa and Saa?!They must be really afraid of Macri winning a second term.

The Rodriguez Saa have never been all that relevant outside of their province, despite their fairly high results in some national elections, and they've only allied with Cristina when they were on the verge of losing to their deputy Governor who allied himself with Cambiemos.

Pichetto, Macri's VP candidate, is a Senator for the Partido Justicialista since 2001 and had been a very important Ally of the Kirchners as President of the Partido Justicialista caucus in the Senate. After Macri son in 2015, Pichetto formed his own caucus with a large block of anti-Cristina  PJ senators. And was the Mastermind behind Alternativa Federal

Urtubey is a member of the PJ, and was the leader of the party's caucus in the House of Representatives during Nestor Kirchner's presidency, and the was elected as Governor of Salta for the Frente para la Victoria (the Kirchnerista coalition)

Lavagna has always identified himself as a peronista and I allied with some Peronista labor Unión leaders, despite often allying himself with the UCR and trying to build an image that transcends the traditional parties
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2019, 06:20:26 AM »

In the City of Buenos Aires, Lousteau's allies (the UCR and Partido Socialista) integrated into Juntos por el Cambio



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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2019, 10:36:35 AM »

Wow, the coalitions are more Argentinian than ever

I see there's no other choice for me but endorsing the good old Roberto Lavagna, despite he has picked an awful partner

In the City of Buenos Aires, Lousteau's allies (the UCR and Partido Socialista) integrated into Juntos por el Cambio

Lousteau allied to Macri. Donda and Solanas converted to kirchnerismo

To be honest, the scenario in the capital city looks depressing

Yeah, I agree on both. At least Larreta is a pretty decent Jefe de Gobierno

I hope that the non-kirchnerista center-left present there own sub-list for the legislature and maybe even Representatives within Juntos por el Cambio

Luis Zamora (AyL) or FI-Unidad may have a real chance of getting one Representative for the City otherwise
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2019, 05:30:13 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2019, 07:23:08 AM by ∀lex »

Today elections were held in 4 provinces: Santa Fe [the third largest province by population], San Luis, Formosa and Tierra del Fuego. Despite the geographically largest electrical blackdown in the country's history affecting every province other than TDF (which, as an island, isn't connected to the national electrical grid, the electoral procesa developed without any huge inconveniences.
Most of these elections will be very regional, and some candidates don't have strong loyalty to national coalitions

Santa Fe usually has very close elections, with the winner often being unpredictable late at night. It looks like Bonfatti will win, but Perrotti will be very close and Corral will be a distant third.

Frente Progresista: Antonio Bonfatti (P. Socialista)-Victoria Tejeda (UCR) : Partido Socialista, Libres del Sur, GEN,  P. Intransigente
Frente Juntos: Omar Perotti (Partido Justicialista)-Alejandra Ródenas (PJ): Partido Justicialista and a bunch of minor parties
Cambiemos: José Corral (Unión Cívica Radical)-Anita Martínez (Pro) : Pro, UCR, Coalición Cívica

Perotti won over the more kirchnerista María Eugenia Bielsa in the PJ, and despite campaigning with Cristina he may later align with either of the main national coalitions

Neither Frente de Izquierda, Nueva Izquierda (MST), Alternativa Federal or Espacio Grande (conservatives) got the 1.5% needed in the open primaries to get to the actual elections

San Luis has traditionally been governed by the Rodriguez Saa brothers, Adolfo (1983-2001, Senator since 2005) and Alberto (2001-2011, 2015-now). All three major candidates have been governors of the province and allies until recently
Frente Unidad Justicialista: Alberto Rodriguez Saa (PJ, Compromiso Federal)  -Eduardo Mones Ruiz: PJ, Compromiso Federal, Partido de la Victoria
San Luis Unido: Claudio Poggi Avanzar (Poggi's party), Pro, UCR, Libres del Sur
Juntos por la Gente: Adolfo Rodriguez Saa (PJ/CF)-Marcelo Sosa  without the formal support of any major party

The official version (and they one that's promoted by the brothers) is that they disagreed on how close they should be to Kirchnerismo, to which they Alberto RS had been getting closer after Poggi (who was voted as a stand-in for the Rodriguez Saa
as El Alberto was running for president) turned to Cambiemos.

In Formosa, Insfrán will get his seventh term (1995-present) in the most clientelistic out of all provinces. He has always gotten over 70% of the votes since 2003.

Partido Justicialista: Gildo Insfrán (PJ) - Eber Solis (PJ) : Partido Justicialista, Frente para la Victoria and a million small parties
Frente Amplio Formoseño: Adrián Floro Bogado (PJ)- Iván Kaluk (UCR): UCR, Pro, Nuevo País (Bogado), P. Socialista

Tierra del Fuego

Unidad Fueguina: Rosana Bertone [inc.] (PJ) - Juan Arcando (PJ) : Partido Justicialista, Unidad Ciudadana
FORJA+MPF: Gustavo Melilla (Forja) - Mónica Urquiza (Mov. Popular Fueguino): Concertación FORJA (kirchneristas who were members of the UCR), Movimiento Popular Fueguino (regionalists), Nuevo Encuentro and minor center-left and Kirchnerista parties
Ser Fueguino: Juan Rodríguez (UCR) - Fernando Gliubich : UCR, Pro
TDF has a second round if neither candidate gets 50+% of the votes
Both Bertone and Melella have stated their support for the Fernández-Fernández ballot, but Bertone is their favorite
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2019, 11:44:26 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2019, 09:31:54 AM by ∀lex »

Santa Fe

Frente Juntos: Omar Perotti (Partido Justicialista)-Alejandra Rodenas (PJ):   40.52
Frente Progresista: Antonio Bonfatti (P. Socialista)-Victoria Tejeda (UCR) : 36.34
Cambiemos: José Corral (Unión Cívica Radical)-Anita Martínez (Pro) :   18.96

Frente Progresista lost to the United PJ after 3 terms in office

San Luis
Frente Unidad Justicialista: Alberto Rodriguez Saa (PJ, Compromiso Federal)  -Eduardo Mones Ruiz (PJ): 42.18
San Luis Unido: Claudio Poggi (Avanzar)-Enrique Ponce (S.L. Somos Todos) : 34.65
Juntos por la Gente: Adolfo Rodriguez Saa (PJ/CF)-Marcelo Sosa: 22.07

Formosa

Partido Justicialista: Gildo Insfrán (PJ) - Eber Solis (PJ) : 70.86
Frente Amplio Formoseño: Adrián Floro Bogado (PJ)- Iván Kaluk (UCR): 28.66
Partido Obrero: Natalia Coronel - Cristian Villasboa: 0.48

Tierra del Fuego (90% counted)

FORJA+MPF: Gustavo Melilla (Forja) - Mónica Urquiza (Mov. Popular Fueguino): 50.90
Unidad Fueguina: Rosana Bertone [inc.] (PJ) - Juan Arcando (PJ) : 37.80
Ser Fueguino: Juan Rodríguez (UCR) - Fernando Gliubich : 4.10


Frente de Todos and its allies won all of yesterday's gubernatorial elections

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