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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« on: June 14, 2018, 12:11:18 PM »

Merkel should just resign now.

She's so worn out by now and doesn't even have her government under control anymore.

Add this to the fact of increasing corruption, incompetence and security-related scandals such as the BAMF one or the frequent killings and rapes by immigrants that she allowed in.

Her time is up. She's just limping along for the next 4 years because she's power-hungry and glued to her seat ... and it's painful to watch.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 11:20:20 AM »
« Edited: June 20, 2018, 11:28:41 AM by Tender Branson »

Today, the Bavarian and Austrian cabinets held a joint cabinet meeting to put additional pressure on Merkel.

Both PM Söder (Bavaria) and Chancellor Kurz (Austria) said that "not even a thin piece of paper fits between them" on the topic of illegal/uncontrolled immigration and asylum seekers.

A picture of the Austrian+Bavarian cabinet members:



BTW: Strache, Hofer and Kickl were in Rome today to meet Salvini and talk with him about the upcoming EU meeting on immgiration/asylum, also to put more pressure on Merkel.

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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2018, 12:23:28 PM »

German-Austrian-Italian far rights getting together, may a the "axis" would be a good name for their gathering Cheesy
Maybe they could also wear armbands to indicate their friendship. With a symbol that means much to them. #justgirlythings

You might be on to something:

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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 11:21:15 AM »

Ahead of Sunday's EU immigration summit, a new YouGov poll shows 43% of Germans now want Merkel to resign vs. 42% who want her to remain in office:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/umfrage-fast-jeder-zweite-deutsche-fuer-abloesung-merkels/22722796.html

Behind the scenes, the Visegrad countries + Austria + Italy + the Bavarians are working to remove her from office.

In other news, the SPD is preparing for new elections in the fall ...

It would be nice if Merkel + Erdogan would be removed from office on the same day, but it's probably a dream.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2018, 11:17:34 AM »

What a silly drama ...

But this is only the result of not dealing with the excesses of Merkel's failed "welcome culture" in a timely manner. Only ignoring them and ignoring them and ignoring them and pretending that everything is OK. And now these excesses are bursting open like ripe furuncles on a teenage face.

The best would be if Merkel steps down if she has any courage left. She's not in charge of her government any longer and she should know when it's too late for her.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 10:44:42 PM »

Seehofer met with Kurz/Strache/Kickl yesterday and they decided to close the "southern migrant route" (= Germany/Austria/Italy).



Seehofer wants some "transit centers" for asylum seekers near the Austrian border, where asylum seekers who have already been registered in another EU country are being concentrated and then deported. Some of them to Austria (which is already the case). But most of them to Italy, Greece, Spain and Bulgaria/Romania, where they first entered the EU.

The SPD has said they are against these "transit centers", so we'll see what happens.

At least, there's finally some movement on the issue (even in Merkel's own naive CDU-circle) and while Seehofer used to be quite blunt and damaged the Union, it was still the right thing to do.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 12:55:18 PM »

This is somehow odd:

Salvini (right-wing nationalist) today, during the meeting of EU Interior Ministers in Innsbruck: "We will establish strong security on the EU's outer borders, based on the proposal of our Austrian friends."

Renzi (a Social-Democrat) yesterday: "Salvini is looking to incorporate Italy as a province into a new Habsburg Empire."
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 09:10:34 AM »

So, Horst Seehofer recently had his 69th birthday and on this occasion he noted: "There were 69 deportations to Afghanistan on my 69th birthday."

Today, it turned out that one of the 69 deported Afghans hanged himself in Kabul, something the opposition (and SPD) now uses to call for Seehofer's resignation.

While of course terrible, I don't think Seehofer should step down because of it. People will always try to avoid their deportations and do things much worse, like attacking deportation officers, setting themselves on fire, kill themselves etc. - but there's the clear rule of law, which these people need to understand: The laws are there to be followed, the people are there to be deported if their asylum application was denied and brought out of the country. This needs to be 100% clear. A state cannot be held hostage by these people.

Remain strong, Horst & Co. !
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,190
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 02:10:00 PM »

Germans and Austrians justifying deaths because "only following orders" is not a problem at all

Funny how you always bring up crazy Nazi comparisons when you run out of arguments ...

Fact is, a country that does not uphold its laws any longer and tolerates illegal immigrants or those who were rejected and who hold that country hostage and blackmail it for selfish personal gains, is not a legitimate country any longer. Maybe a banana republic, but not a country. The rule of law always has to be maintained, otherwise parallel societies and the rule of political Islam, Sharia and the like will find loopholes to slowly spread and metastasize. Better to be vigilant from the start, rather than dealing with all the problems later on (=> see Germany right now).
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