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PBrunsel
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« on: August 11, 2005, 01:06:28 PM »

Hoover landslide of course. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 01:14:56 PM »


I of course was joking. Hoover was 90 years old, and in horrible health. The GOP would not have nominated him anyway, but he would not have won. He would have done better than Goldwater, but then again, most Republicans would have.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 01:24:05 PM »


By what I could gather he was a supporter of minority voting rights. He supported civil rights, and Ike went to him durring the Little Rock Crisis in '57 to get advice on what t do about Governopr Faubus's opposition to brown v. Board of Education.

I do know that he was an advocate f civil rights. If he felt it was a state or federal issue, I am unaware though.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2005, 04:31:55 PM »



Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (D): 283 electoral votes

Herbert Hoover/David Eisenhower (R): 220 Electoral Votes

States Right's Electors: 35 Electoral Votes

Yes, kind of kind to my hero, but Hoover was far more well liked than Barry Goldwater and generally well loved in 1964 as the truth behind his greatness came out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2005, 07:36:32 PM »

Hoover raised the top income tax rate from 25% to 63%. With his approval, the estate tax was doubled and corporate taxes were raised by almost 15%.

Notable Hoover policies and proposals include fifty dollar monthly pensions for Americans over 65. A price-fixing Federal Farm Board. An anti-trust division in the Justice Department. Federal loans for urban slum clearances. A federal Department of Education. And the Anti-Injunction Act, which outlawed yellow dog contracts in which a worker agreed as a condition of employment not to join a labor union.

Some of those became law. Others didn't. They were all bad.

You amke good points Phillip, but we must remember that the economic ideas that Hoover and Mellon followed were of the School of Adam Smith Economics where you focus on balanced budgets, and you raise taxes in a time of economic downturn to meet the lost revenue so one may balalnce the budget. If raising taxes is a consequence of reaching the balanced budget, then so be it. That is what was beleived by a majority of not just politicians, but citizens.

It sounds silly now, but that was the way it worked back then. Balance the budget. FDR maqueraded as a balanced budget advocate in 1932, but also as a "New Dealer." And you thought John Kerry was a flip-flopper. FDR promised less spending, and more spending, in the same damn campaign!

Hoover other "Socialist" ideas were simply Depression measure, and only it the fan under FDR.
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