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MODU
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« on: August 11, 2005, 10:37:41 PM »



I'm against it.  There are plenty naturally born US citizens within the US to run for President.  We don't need to whore out our country to some foreign born candidate just because he's an actor or has billions of dollars.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2005, 08:19:30 AM »

There are plenty naturally born US citizens within the US to run for President.
This would be like me saying that there are plenty of males to vote so we don't need to give women the right to vote.  The point of giving equal rights to naturalized citizens is not to have more people available to run, but to give them equal rights.



No, not really.  We are talking about national leadership.  It's not like we are running low on people who have the ability to be our leader (though we are running low on candidates worth being our leader lately).  By that, we do not need to whore ourselves out to non-native born citizens for elections.  And this has nothing to do with equal rights and everything to do with national security.  Any plan that is brought up to change that fact should be struck down instantly. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2005, 08:31:26 AM »

It's not like we are running low on people who have the ability to be our leader (though we are running low on candidates worth being our leader lately).
Once again, this is not a valid argument. It's like saying, it's not like we are running low on white Christian males who have the ability to be our leader, so no one else should qualify. The number of people available is absolutely irrelevant.

No, it's not.  They are two different things.  There is a reason why our laws require the leader of the nation to be one born from this nation, just as there is a reason why they have to be a certain age too.  It is to protect the integrity and sovereignty of our country.  Now, if for some reason all of our adults were to die suddenly, leaving only kids behind, then the law would have to be changed to either lower the age limit or to open it up to foreign born adults to become our leader.


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That argument is a rather difficult one to make. Why would a natural-born citizen be more likely to maintain national security than, say, someone who became a citizen at the age of one?

The argument that naturalized citizens are somehow less likely to owe allegiance to the United States is, I'm sorry to say, entirely unconvincing.
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Yet you assume that everyone who becomes a naturalized citizen might not have other motives.  Let's say for example a 19-year-old covert PLO operative moved to the US and became naturalized, and then when old enough ran and became President?  Do you not think that he would have any plans towards changing our support for Isreal?  Or what about a German immigrant following WWI moving to the US to become President during WWII?  These are the things you have to think about, and why changing the law to allow this kind of risk to occur is a very very bad idea.
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