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« Reply #1550 on: October 30, 2022, 10:48:22 AM »
« edited: October 30, 2022, 04:35:36 PM by GeorgiaModerate »

How many of these registered Dems are demosaurs who never bothered to change their registration?

Zero.  Georgia does not have party registration.
God I'm a moron. Somehow I transposed white/black into R/D.

I mean racial polarization in the South is so strong that it's basically the same thing

I've heard people say that in Mississippi you don't even need to count the votes, just count people as they walk into the polling booths.

I think I saw something that if Mississippi whites voted like even Wisconsin or Iowa whites did, it would be a blue state.

Why the "even"? Upper midwest whites vote more D than most of the country - they were second after New England until recent years when they fell behind the west coast.

Recent years? I'd say the west coast was more Democratic than the midwest, remember Ohio and Indiana along with parts of Kentucky by 2000 at the earliest.

I said upper midwest, not midwest. Most would classify MN/WI/MI and parts of IA as upper midwest.

In 2004, the only states Kerry won whites according to most exit polls were the New England states, MN, one of OR/WA and HI if I recall correctly.  IA/WI and the other OR/WA state were tied (and certainly within margins of exit polls). CA and NY weren't really as close as people might expect. CA whites shifted a lot in the Obama years, but parts of the upper midwest are still better for Ds.


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The Dakotas are both apart of the upper midwest
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« Reply #1551 on: October 30, 2022, 04:16:59 PM »

I mean racial polarization in the South is so strong that it's basically the same thing

I've heard people say that in Mississippi you don't even need to count the votes, just count people as they walk into the polling booths.

I think I saw something that if Mississippi whites voted like even Wisconsin or Iowa whites did, it would be a blue state.

If Mississippi whites voted like Georgia Whites it would be a likely Democratic state depending on the black turnout obviously.

If Mississippi whites voted like those of WI or IA, it would be competing for the most Democratic state in the nation.

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2018 - Wicker (R) vs Baria (D)
18-49 (39%): 50.59 R - 47.69 D (R+2.90)
50 up (61%): 64.95 R - 33.05 D (R+31.90)

2018 - Hyde-Smith/McDaniel (R) vs Espy/Bartee (D)
18-49 (39%): 50.54 D - 49.05 R (D+1.49)
50 up (61%): 62.54 R - 37.46 D (R+25.08)
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« Reply #1552 on: October 30, 2022, 06:38:14 PM »

This is a pathetic answer by Abrams.

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« Reply #1553 on: October 30, 2022, 07:58:05 PM »

The amount of officers in Georgia who have been caught on tape and social media spouting racial epithets doesn’t make this too far from reality and did you just sleep through the whole Ahmaud Arbery situation? I’m glad you’re able to pretend this is just hyperbole, for many people it’s real life.
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« Reply #1554 on: October 30, 2022, 08:33:15 PM »

To me it seems like Abrams believes she can win with purely strong turnout amongst the black community and white liberals when practically the numbers just aren't there.

This kinda makes sense though since as an organizer, she was very effective and often seen as the reason Biden carried GA in 2020. But Biden won on a combination of BOTH strong black turnout and appeal to swing voters, specifically in many whiter suburbs in the northern parts of Atlanta where he saw like 20 point swings in his favour.
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« Reply #1555 on: October 31, 2022, 11:44:35 AM »

Extremely silly to deny that white southern police officers might have a teensy bit of a racism problem.
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« Reply #1556 on: October 31, 2022, 11:59:45 AM »

Speaking as a Georgian who lives in a 70% R county - and who still has a Democratic Sheriff - what she said isn't hard to believe. Probably 130+ counties are either beholden to a GOP Sheriff who espouses all the modern-day partisan behaviors and talking points, or are represented by a longstanding Democratic Sheriff who more or less does the same. Only the most urban, black and/or Democratic-partisan counties have someone elected who even slightly acts alternatively.
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« Reply #1557 on: October 31, 2022, 12:10:25 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2022, 12:18:35 PM by Throw OH & FL in the Trash »

Day 14 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 26,314 voters cast ballots Sunday, for a grand total of 1,660,633 votes.

Breakdown of Sunday's voters:

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11417 	White	43.39%
9741 Black 37.02%
1207         Asian 4.59%
801     Latino 3.04%
3148 Other 11.96%

15183 Female 57.70%
10991 Male        41.77%
140          Other         0.53%

Total votes thus far:

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952071	White	57.33%
499804 Black 30.10%
28528 Asian 1.72%
27234       Latino 1.64%
152996 Other 9.21%

915084 Female 55.10%
742132 Male        44.69%
3417        Other 0.21%

S[inks]ttiest Sunday in modern times for Democrats - though this is the first cycle where we had a decent chunk of black counties hosting more than 1 Sunday of EV:

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« Reply #1558 on: November 01, 2022, 05:39:47 AM »

Day 15 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 149,794 voters cast ballots Monday, for a grand total of 1,810,427 votes.

Looking like the black vote has been sufficiently cannibalized at this point.

Breakdown of Monday's voters:

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90075 	White	60.13%
39004 Black 26.04%
2915         Asian 1.95%
2858    Latino 1.91%
14942 Other 9.97%

80922 Female 54.02%
68491 Male         45.72%
381          Other         0.26%

Total votes thus far:

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1042146	White	57.56%
538808 Black 29.76%
31443 Asian 1.74%
30092       Latino 1.66%
167938 Other 9.28%

996006 Female 55.01%
810623 Male         44.78%
3798         Other 0.21%
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« Reply #1559 on: November 01, 2022, 06:00:55 AM »

Day 15 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 149,794 voters cast ballots Monday, for a grand total of 1,810,427 votes.

Looking like the black vote has been sufficiently cannibalized at this point.

Breakdown of Monday's voters:

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90075 	White	60.13%
39004 Black 26.04%
2915         Asian 1.95%
2858     Latino 1.91%
14942 Other 9.97%

80922 Female 54.02%
68491 Male        45.72%
381          Other         0.26%

Total votes thus far:

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1042146	White	57.56%
538808 Black 29.76%
31443 Asian 1.74%
30092       Latino 1.66%
167938 Other 9.28%

996006 Female 55.01%
810623 Male        44.78%
3798        Other 0.21%

How does it compare with 2018/2020? I feel like the black share is dropping a little too fast for the D's chances.
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« Reply #1560 on: November 01, 2022, 07:27:23 AM »

How many of these registered Dems are demosaurs who never bothered to change their registration?

Zero.  Georgia does not have party registration.
God I'm a moron. Somehow I transposed white/black into R/D.

I mean racial polarization in the South is so strong that it's basically the same thing

I've heard people say that in Mississippi you don't even need to count the votes, just count people as they walk into the polling booths.

I think I saw something that if Mississippi whites voted like even Wisconsin or Iowa whites did, it would be a blue state.
Just Wisconsin or Iowa? If Biden did as well amongst whites in Mississippi as he did amongst whites in West Virginia he would've won Mississippi.

If he did as well as whites in Wisconsin or Iowa it would have voted to the left of Maryland.
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« Reply #1561 on: November 01, 2022, 10:30:42 AM »

How many of these registered Dems are demosaurs who never bothered to change their registration?

Zero.  Georgia does not have party registration.
God I'm a moron. Somehow I transposed white/black into R/D.

I mean racial polarization in the South is so strong that it's basically the same thing

I've heard people say that in Mississippi you don't even need to count the votes, just count people as they walk into the polling booths.

I think I saw something that if Mississippi whites voted like even Wisconsin or Iowa whites did, it would be a blue state.
Just Wisconsin or Iowa? If Biden did as well amongst whites in Mississippi as he did amongst whites in West Virginia he would've won Mississippi.

If he did as well as whites in Wisconsin or Iowa it would have voted to the left of Maryland.

Even the West Virginia numbers still put MS around 55% to 60% Dem in the high black turnout model.

Georgia whites is just about tipping point 47% to 52% depending on turnout.
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« Reply #1562 on: November 01, 2022, 08:22:25 PM »
« Edited: November 01, 2022, 08:26:23 PM by Throw OH & FL in the Trash »

I've heard people say that in Mississippi you don't even need to count the votes, just count people as they walk into the polling booths.

I think I saw something that if Mississippi whites voted like even Wisconsin or Iowa whites did, it would be a blue state.
Just Wisconsin or Iowa? If Biden did as well amongst whites in Mississippi as he did amongst whites in West Virginia he would've won Mississippi.

If he did as well as whites in Wisconsin or Iowa it would have voted to the left of Maryland.

Even the West Virginia numbers still put MS around 55% to 60% Dem in the high black turnout model.

Georgia whites is just about tipping point 47% to 52% depending on turnout.

The simplest pathway likely involves whites voting 25% D at 61 percent of the electorate & blacks voting 93% D at 35 percent of the electorate. From there, you just need 55% of what remains to hit the magic 50.

White: 15.25
Black: 32.55
Other: 2.20
Total: 50.00
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« Reply #1563 on: November 01, 2022, 08:37:37 PM »


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« Reply #1564 on: November 01, 2022, 10:40:51 PM »

Initially, it looked as if Georgia could bank anywhere from 2.8m to 3.0m early votes. I'm significantly revising that figure downward. Even if we banked an average of 200k in-person votes per day for the rest of the week and saw every single outstanding mail ballot as of Monday (104k) returned, we would just barely hit 2.7m.

My new estimate is 2.5m to 2.6m. Whether this means a larger ED vote than I initially projected (1.2m to 1.4m) is unclear. Perhaps we are on track for 2018-level turnout rather than 2021 runoff-level turnout.
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« Reply #1565 on: November 02, 2022, 02:01:20 PM »

Day 16 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 136,848 voters cast ballots Tuesday, for a grand total of 1,947,275 votes.

Breakdown of Tuesday's voters:

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83044 	White	60.68%
34561 Black 25.26%
2915         Asian 2.13%
2711    Latino 1.98%
13617 Other 9.95%

76623 Female 55.99%
59821 Male         43.71%
404          Other         0.30%

Total votes thus far:

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1125190	White	57.78%
573369 Black 29.44%
34358 Asian 1.76%
32803       Latino 1.68%
181555 Other 9.34%

1072629 Female 55.08%
870444 Male         44.70%
4202         Other 0.22%
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« Reply #1566 on: November 03, 2022, 06:17:29 AM »
« Edited: November 03, 2022, 06:30:40 AM by guys the votes are in the mail »

Day 17 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 145,009 voters cast ballots Wednesday, for a grand total of 2,092,284 votes.

Fairly decent improvement for Democrats along racial and gender lines in Wednesday's batch compared to the past few days. Largest weekday black vote share since Day 11; smallest weekday white vote share since Day 5.  

Worth noting that in-person turnout was approximately 125k, which means we saw roughly 20k ABMs returned on Wednesday. A total of 194,059 ABMs have been received, with approximately another 65k outstanding. That's a pretty good return rate at this point in the game by Georgia standards.

Perhaps we are going to see the final week's uptick in black share after all...

Breakdown of Wednesday's voters:

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85521 	White	58.98%
37961 Black 26.18%
3241         Asian 2.24%
3308     Latino 2.28%
14978 Other 10.32%

82818 Female 57.11%
61724 Male        42.57%
467          Other         0.32%

Total votes thus far:

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1210711	White	57.87%
611330 Black 29.22%
37599 Asian 1.80%
36111       Latino 1.73%
196533 Other 9.38%

1155447 Female 55.22%
932168 Male        44.55%
4669        Other 0.23%
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« Reply #1567 on: November 03, 2022, 02:18:51 PM »



Good article, worth a read.
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« Reply #1568 on: November 03, 2022, 02:24:37 PM »

Starting to have a terrible feeling Wanker is going to avoid a run-off with like 50.2% of the vote. The Kemp coattails are definitely going to help him to a degree. That's the fear I have right now. This is not exactly a state known for its heavy ticket-splitting.
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« Reply #1569 on: November 03, 2022, 02:35:41 PM »

Starting to have a terrible feeling Wanker is going to avoid a run-off with like 50.2% of the vote. The Kemp coattails are definitely going to help him to a degree. That's the fear I have right now. This is not exactly a state known for its heavy ticket-splitting.

Lowkey random but it is possible to create a congressional district that voted for Warnock-Perdue in the election runoffs, about 5,000 votes split their ticket that way in this hypothetical seat, or 1% difference.

It’s small but not unrealistic to assume Kemp wins and Walker fails to make 50
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« Reply #1570 on: November 03, 2022, 02:50:04 PM »

Starting to have a terrible feeling Wanker is going to avoid a run-off with like 50.2% of the vote. The Kemp coattails are definitely going to help him to a degree. That's the fear I have right now. This is not exactly a state known for its heavy ticket-splitting.

Lowkey random but it is possible to create a congressional district that voted for Warnock-Perdue in the election runoffs, about 5,000 votes split their ticket that way in this hypothetical seat, or 1% difference.

It’s small but not unrealistic to assume Kemp wins and Walker fails to make 50

I imagine this is a district that includes the ATL suburbs/exurbs? Sure, but Warcock outperformed Assoff by a little over 0.5% in the 2021 run-off. The polls have Hemp utterly trouncing Abrams by at least mid-single digits if not close to 10%. Wanker can afford to lose quite a bit of ground and still win with the state's polarization alone.

*Apologies for using humor as a coping mechanism rn: by replacing a single letter in Warnock/Ossoff/Kemp/Walker to bring some hilarious results*
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« Reply #1571 on: November 03, 2022, 02:58:24 PM »

Starting to have a terrible feeling Wanker is going to avoid a run-off with like 50.2% of the vote. The Kemp coattails are definitely going to help him to a degree. That's the fear I have right now. This is not exactly a state known for its heavy ticket-splitting.

Lowkey random but it is possible to create a congressional district that voted for Warnock-Perdue in the election runoffs, about 5,000 votes split their ticket that way in this hypothetical seat, or 1% difference.

It’s small but not unrealistic to assume Kemp wins and Walker fails to make 50

I imagine this is a district that includes the ATL suburbs/exurbs? Sure, but Warcock outperformed Assoff by a little over 0.5% in the 2021 run-off. The polls have Hemp utterly trouncing Abrams by at least mid-single digits if not close to 10%. Wanker can afford to lose quite a bit of ground and still win with the state's polarization alone.

*Apologies for using humor as a coping mechanism rn: by replacing a single letter in Warnock/Ossoff/Kemp/Walker to bring some hilarious results*

It sorta is, it’s basically all of Northern Fulton, some of Gwinnett, and the city of Kennesaw.

Also if it’s any comfort Governor performance and senate performance have low correlation compared to most races
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« Reply #1572 on: November 03, 2022, 03:13:14 PM »

Starting to have a terrible feeling Wanker is going to avoid a run-off with like 50.2% of the vote. The Kemp coattails are definitely going to help him to a degree. That's the fear I have right now. This is not exactly a state known for its heavy ticket-splitting.

Lowkey random but it is possible to create a congressional district that voted for Warnock-Perdue in the election runoffs, about 5,000 votes split their ticket that way in this hypothetical seat, or 1% difference.

It’s small but not unrealistic to assume Kemp wins and Walker fails to make 50

I imagine this is a district that includes the ATL suburbs/exurbs? Sure, but Warcock outperformed Assoff by a little over 0.5% in the 2021 run-off. The polls have Hemp utterly trouncing Abrams by at least mid-single digits if not close to 10%. Wanker can afford to lose quite a bit of ground and still win with the state's polarization alone.

*Apologies for using humor as a coping mechanism rn: by replacing a single letter in Warnock/Ossoff/Kemp/Walker to bring some hilarious results*

It sorta is, it’s basically all of Northern Fulton, some of Gwinnett, and the city of Kennesaw.

Also if it’s any comfort Governor performance and senate performance have low correlation compared to most races

Not really in GA. The last time both were on the ballot in 2014, only ~0.1% separated the D margins in Gov & Sen. Now don't get me wrong there is going to be more of a split this year owing to Wanker's unique weaknesses as a candidate but it's unlikely to be significantly more than 3% or so... and I am starting to think that's not going to be enough.
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« Reply #1573 on: November 03, 2022, 10:56:00 PM »

Day 18 AIP (+ABM) Voting: 168,894 voters cast ballots Thursday, for a grand total of 2,261,178 votes.

Continued positive indicators for Democrats: today's black share up from yesterday's by more than a point, while white vote share was down by almost two points. The overall EV electorate only became 0.02 points whiter than it was as of yesterday (57.87% to 57.89%).

Breakdown of Thursday's voters:

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96687 	White	57.25%
46113 Black 27.30%
3869         Asian 2.29%
4293    Latino 2.54%
17932 Other 10.62%

96751 Female 57.29%
71520 Male         42.35%
623          Other         0.36%

Total votes thus far:

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1307398	White	57.89%
657443 Black 29.08%
41468 Asian 1.83%
40404       Latino 1.79%
214465 Other 9.41%

1252198 Female 55.38%
1003688 Male         44.39%
5292         Other 0.23%
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« Reply #1574 on: November 04, 2022, 11:34:53 AM »

David Ralston will not run for another term as Speaker in the state house:

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