Single-Payer Health Care

[MasterJedi]

We could possibly try instituting a profit cap to keep expenses down first.

[MasterJedi]

We could possibly try instituting a profit cap to keep expenses down first.

You can't be serious... before we even get into how immoral and impractical the idea of profit caps are in general, the only thing this would do consolidate healthcare providers since they are the ones who are really making money, and greatly reduce healthcare product development. The healthcare capital market would collapse, and one failed blockbuster would take down most innovative drug manufacturers.

The best way to lower prices in a market is to put more power into the hands of consumers. Insurance companies are currently acting as a shield for healthcare providers against consumers - that needs to end, whether we are talking about private insurance or public universal insurance.

Lol, child, it's immoral to charge people exorbitant amounts of money for a life giving/sustaining service to the point they can't afford it and die or live substandard lives. It's not like we're talking about large flat screen TVs, luxury cars or jewelry here that is not a necessity.

[MasterJedi]

I've written here before about the crisis that would follow single payer if the federal adopted reimbursement rates similar to existing health insurance programs. You're looking at a total depopulation of rural areas, huge paycuts and layoffs in the industry, and a growing call for nationalization. Nationalization is another problem entirely, but probably the end goal of most in the know about single payer.

Well you sold me with "total depopulation of rural areas".

[MasterJedi]

I've written here before about the crisis that would follow single payer if the federal adopted reimbursement rates similar to existing health insurance programs. You're looking at a total depopulation of rural areas, huge paycuts and layoffs in the industry, and a growing call for nationalization. Nationalization is another problem entirely, but probably the end goal of most in the know about single payer.

Well you sold me with "total depopulation of rural areas".

I realize that your politics have changed, but I wasn't expecting you to endorse the liquidation of the kulaks...

Dense urban city with populated burbs surrounding it with a good LRT system and high speed rail between. Rural areas should be VERY sparsely populated. So "depopulation of the rural areas" would be great to get people to move closer.

[MasterJedi]

I've written here before about the crisis that would follow single payer if the federal adopted reimbursement rates similar to existing health insurance programs. You're looking at a total depopulation of rural areas, huge paycuts and layoffs in the industry, and a growing call for nationalization. Nationalization is another problem entirely, but probably the end goal of most in the know about single payer.

Well you sold me with "total depopulation of rural areas".

I realize that your politics have changed, but I wasn't expecting you to endorse the liquidation of the kulaks...

Dense urban city with populated burbs surrounding it with a good LRT system and high speed rail between. Rural areas should be VERY sparsely populated. So "depopulation of the rural areas" would be great to get people to move closer.

Why is that so important to you?  I feel obligated to go into a spiel about how rural living is healthier for the mind and the environment, but I won't.  I think the only reason you hate rural areas is that they vote for people like Bernie and Trump.  If politics is your only criteria for determining if a place is good or not, then your priorities are seriously misplaced.

And forcing people to move to more crowded areas will not make them any more enlightened.  Ignorance and racism are as prevalent in educated and urban areas as they are in poor rural areas.

To not sidetrack the discussion I'll just keep it short, it has nothing to do with politics.