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« on: May 15, 2012, 05:31:00 AM »

Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 05:50:39 AM »
« Edited: May 15, 2012, 05:52:43 AM by Sharif Hashemite »

Pretty much confirmed to be Ayrault.

He could have chosen somebody who isn't against reunification. I guess I won't be voting PS in the first round then.

Reunification with what ?

Brittany, of course. He's always been one of the few of Socialists from Loire-Atlantique to oppose it, when most have supported it.

It's a stupid reason, but since the choice of PM is pretty symbolic and useless, I chose a symbolic and useless reason. Of course, the mere fact that the UMP candidate here is Fredo Lefebvre should force anybody who has graduated grade 1 to vote for the PS candidate; even though there is probably a chance that Fredo won't even make the runoff given how the right here is divided beyond recognition.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 07:12:43 PM »

Aubry has Muslim connections.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 04:16:24 PM »

FTR, the full list:


- Laurent Fabius, ministre des Affaires étrangères

- Vincent Peillon, ministre de l’Education nationale

- Christiane Taubira, Garde des Sceaux, ministre de la Justice (PRG)

- Pierre Moscovici, ministre de l’Economie, des Finances et du commerce extérieur

- Marisol Touraine, ministre des Affaires sociales et de la santé

- Cécile Duflot, ministre de l’Egalité des territoires et du logement (Green)

- Manuel Valls, ministre de l’Intérieur

- Nicole Bricq, ministre de l’Ecologie, du développement durable et de l'énergie

- Arnaud Montebourg, ministre du Redressement productif

- Michel Sapin, ministre du Travail, de l’emploi et du dialogue social

- Jean-Yves Le Drian, ministre de la Défense

- Aurélie Filippetti, ministre de la Culture et de la communication

- Geneviève Fioraso, ministre de l’Enseignement supérieur et de la recherche

- Najat Vallaud-Belkacem, ministre des Droits des femmes et porte-parole du gouvernement

- Stéphane Le Foll, ministre de l’Agriculture et de l’agroalimentaire

- Marylise Lebranchu, ministre de la Réforme de l’Etat, de la décentralisation et de la fonction publique

- Victorin Lurel, ministre des Outremer

- Valérie Fourneyron, ministre des Sports, de la jeunesse, de l'éducation populaire et de la vie associative

MINISTRES DELEGUES

- Jérôme Cahuzac, ministre délégué auprès du ministre de l’Economie, des finances et du commerce extérieur, chargé du Budget

- George Pau-Langevin, ministre délégué auprès du ministre de l’Education nationale, chargée de la Réussite éducative

- Alain Vidalies, ministre délégué auprès du Premier ministre, chargé des Relations avec le Parlement

- Delphine Batho, ministre déléguée auprès de la Garde des Sceaux ministre de la Justice

- François Lamy, ministre délégué auprès de la ministre de l’Egalité des territoires et du logement, chargé de la Ville

- Bernard Cazeneuve, ministre délégué auprès du Ministre des Affaires étrangères, chargé des Affaires européennes

- Michèle Delaunay, ministre déléguée auprès de la ministre des Affaires sociales et de la Santé, chargée des Personnes âgées et de la dépendance

- Sylvia Pinel, ministre déléguée auprès du ministre du Redressement productif, chargée de l’Artisanat, du commerce et du tourisme (PRG)

- Benoît Hamon, ministre délégué auprès du ministre de l’Economie, des finances et du commerce extérieur, chargé de l’Economie sociale et solidaire

- Dominique Bertinotti, ministre déléguée auprès de la ministre des Affaires sociales et de la santé, chargée de la Famille

- Marie-Arlette Carlotti, ministre déléguée auprès de la ministre des Affaires sociales et de la santé, chargée des Personnes handicapées

- Pascal Canfin, ministre délégué auprès du ministre des Affaires étrangères, chargé du Développement (Green)

- Yamina Benguigui, ministre déléguée auprès du ministre des Affaires étrangères, chargée des Français de l'étranger et de la francophonie

- Frédéric Cuvillier, ministre délégué auprès de la ministre de l’Ecologie et du développement durable, chargé des Transports et de l'économie maritime

- Fleur Pellerin, ministre déléguée auprès du ministre du Redressement productif, chargée des PME, de l’innovation et de l'économie numérique

- Kader Arif, ministre délégué auprès du ministre de la Défense, chargé des Anciens combattants.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 04:49:30 PM »

If anybody gives a sh**t, here are my impressions and feelings about this government.

Parity is good, and it is also pleasing that parity has not meant in reality filling the government with morons (Morano, Bachelot etc) or deadwood (MAM).

I probably agree with Antonio about Fabius, but in reality foreign affairs is not that huge of a deal despite the appearance of Fabius probably being second in the protocol order. It is always depressing to see how that arrogant, egotistical and hypocritical idiot has always managed to find a cushy job for him in all cases. He will probably be as incompetent as foreign minister as he was in all other jobs he held, but at least he's not in a position to be a real disaster.

I don't know much about Peillon, but I've never been enamored with him, though I'll certainly give him the benefit of the doubt in a ministry in which he could do well given his experience, even though Hollande's education policy is frankly ridiculous.

I'm disappointed to see Taubira be rewarded with such an important and high-profile ministry. That annoying sod is another arrogant and egotistical idiot who is in love with herself and cameras taking pictures of her. Which made her support of Montebourg, another annoying stuck-up jerk who is in love with himself and cameras taking pictures of him, quite understandable (and another reason to dislike her, besides being a constant annoyance). She'll probably be some kind of stupid useless faux-activist minister who will do nothing particularly useful but troll the government and stage Montebourg-like fits and scenes.

Moscovici and Cahuzac are probably the best choices which could be made for the ministries which ultimately matter the most. Mosco is a tested, experienced, moderate, pragmatic and intelligent guy who isn't a retarded demagogue like half of the PS. I don't know as much about Cahuzac, but he gives the appearance of being a guy who will be good at solving the debt/deficit problems.

I don't know much about Touraine, Sapin or Bricq but they seem fairly decent. I'd have preferred to see Duflot as environment minister, because housing and "territorial equality" is a pretty useless job to get. It would also be cool, in general, to see some more Greenies, but there's lots of deadwood in that party and they're returning to their pre-2009 state of general irrelevance at an alarming speed.

"Ministre du Redressement productif" is a ridiculously langue de bois/fluff title (it is also quite hilarious), just as ridiculous as the guy who holds it. Of course, Montebourg needed to be rewarded with some portfolio because he found so many gullible idiots who bought into his retarded demagoguery. Thankfully, industry is a portfolio which seems to be good just for the idiots de service and the literal idiots (Estrosi, Chatel, Besson, Devedjian) and it also a fairly useless and inoffensive position in which he will not be too destructive or in a dangerous position to turn things into sh**t. It is still fairly depressing to see that arrogant, stuck-up, pretentious, hypocritical and egotistical demagogue in such a position (it is also depressing that so many lefties find him hip and all that), given that I've hated his guts and his face since 2007. A real pity, in hindsight, that Arnaud Danjean didn't beat him in 2007 Sad

Le Drian is a Breton patriot, a native son and a specialist in defense matters. He'll do a good job. Fairly pleasing to see Bretons in the cabinet, though Ayrault remains a reactionary freedom-hater on the matter of reunification (which means that I'll never like him). Filippetti is an intelligent woman and she'll do well, and she's also grown up from her youthful naivete of 2007 (when she was a Royal hack). Vallaud-Belkacem is not only hot but, like Filippetti she's more intelligent than she was back in 2007. But what a useless cushy job she got! FTR, she's not running in the legislatives anymore.

Victorin Lurel will certainly be miles more competent than that corrupt moron Marie-Luce Penchard was.

The ministres deleguees are not as important, but they seem fairly correct. Benoît Hamon will not do too much damage in that low level job, which is all he deserves. Sylvia Pinel is kind of hot, but hopefully she'll be more useful in cabinet than in Parliament.

I am pleased that Martine is out. It is also pathetic (and sadistically amusing) that she probably threw a major hissy fit and is now going to proceed to bitch at Hollande and use her apparatus control to troll Hollande. What an arrogant, stuck-up jerk she is. Like my former Spanish prof, her life and our lives would be so much more enjoyable if only she smiled once in a while. I feel as if the PS will not resist the urges of returning to its perennial civil wars for very long.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 05:34:01 AM »

Nobody has mentioned yet that Aubry's drones denied the PS nomination to two hollandist candidates for the legislative election. It seems like Aubry got mightily pissed off (en crisse, I'd say) and threw a huge fit.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 07:14:43 PM »

Obligatory government pic (which reminds me of a ES class picture):



Taubira is basically a midget, or Lolo is a giant. Hollande is about as short as Poison Dwarf. Mosco, Valls and Montebourg apparently saw something which was more interesting than the camera. Le Foll looks like some crazy old uncle. Sylvia Pinel looks like she's posing for the grade 5 class picture. Peillon has a funny face. Duflot once again proves that she has a personal vendetta against skirts.

Also, Breizh Pride for our man in the government!

And the obligatory unofficial theme song of the PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5J8wzpTzrk
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 04:54:09 PM »

There's tons of hatred out there for EELV and Duflot in particular as being a bunch of power-hungry people with no political talent or competence to justify it. A lot of lefties hate the Greens, and most right-wingers hate the Greens as well. Which is kind of sad, because despite everything they're the most tolerable party.

Valls is soooo obviously popular with right-wingers/frontistes. Not funny.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 05:01:21 PM »

Valls acts like a smug asshole sometimes, but as far as this bourgeois left-liberal is concerned, he's one of the only realists in the PS and one of the few who clearly doesn't resort to demagoguery.
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