IL-3 Dem Primary: Election Day!

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glad to see gillibrand's willing to endorse the democrat over the republican

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Okay I started a thread about abortion.

Again though the only reason I brought it up is because the disgusting justice democrats want Lipinski defeated since he is pro life.

absolutely not, there are many reasons i hate dan lipinski (voting against the ACA is a greater sin than being anti-abortion in my book)

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He voted against it because it had to much abortion coverage in it so that goes back to him being pro life.

yeah, that's not true (he said some bullsh*t about the national debt) and also I don't really care about his motivations. for whatever reason, he voted against the most significant piece of domestic policy that Democrats have created since the 1960s.

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Does anyone else in this thread have the first-hand experience of VPH on this matter? Anyone?

me! because i read the ACA roll call vote, and that's all i really need.

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No it is not all you really need. Lol. I would go so far as to say his vote against the ACA ought to be held up as ultimately meaningless, or at least, not important.
Your views about Representative Lipinski are ignorant of political realities, and not held by the people of Illinois' 3rd congressional district. If they were, he would have been primaried years ago.

you can't just string words together and pretend they mean things lmao

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Please explain why he has always won renomination over and over again.

i don't care? that's not relevant to the question of whether he sucks or not (the answer is yes, extremely)

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Doesn't he have good constituent services? Isn't that an important part of a congresscritter's job?

again, I don't care how personally charming dan lipinski is, he's a bad person who pushes policies that make people's lives worse (ex: voting against the ACA, his anti-abortion nonsense, etc)

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Great profile in the Independent

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And the 3rd Congressional is not what you think of as Chicago. I mean look at this map. Yes, the furthest NE corner of the map are in Chicago, but the vast majority of the district is in the blue-collar suburbs, with a population largely made up of religious descendents of Irish, Polish, Greek, Italian, Czech and Mexican immigrants. This district has even been called a home to the Reagan Democrats. Whether you like it or not, Lipinksi represents the values of his constituents. Outside forces trying to shoehorn in someone who doesn't represent her constituents but will toe the national party line is narrow-minded, and really appalling.

yeah dude, the southwest suburbs are well-known for their hatred of affordable healthcare and opposition to a higher minimum wage. there's a tendency in this thread to view Lipinski as some sort of champion of the working class, from the mythical "communitarian" chunk of the political compass. in truth, he's just a fossilized conservadem increasingly out of step with his district — not just on issues like abortion and LGBT rights, but on a whole host of economic issues.

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It's funny how out of touch people on here and nationally are with the good, humble, hardworking people of this district.  Even if Lipinski loses due to a small and angry minority, he will run in the general and win.

Does Illinois allow primary loser to run in the general?

Nope

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Cool pic of Chicago's Republican Congressman yucking it up with Paul Ryan after the tax bill passed


News also broke today that Lipinski will be headlining the March for Life.

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I think Gillibrand should be disciplined by schumer and other democrats. You don't endorse someone to challenge someone in your own party.

Second, Lipinski is a typical catholic democrat from a working class district. Really no different from Dan Rostenkowski or Jerry Costello.

Yes, Dan Lipinski is no different from a lot of Democrats who are no longer in office. He should follow their example, and Gillibrand should be commended for helping him along.

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^VPH's post which you just brushed aside
To you Lipinski haters: you have never interned for Lipinski. You almost don't have a right to talk...

"to you Ryan haters: you have never interned for Paul Ryan. You almost don't have a right to talk..."

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Our Illinoisan posters from Chicagoland have been adopting a different tack on him than you have collectively done as a group. Illiniwek, GreenLine, etc. Shouldn't that count for something?

I live on the south side of Chicago and I think he sucks.

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State Sen. Toi Hutchinson (Chicago Heights, Kankanee, Homewood) and State Rep. Theresa Mah (Bridgeport, Pilsen, Back of the Yards) have endorsed Newman.

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SEIU is big. Expect PP might endorse within the next week.

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Newman can win this primary. No doubt about it.
Is it possible for Lipinski to replicate what Joe Lieberman did in 2006?

No. IL has a sore loser law.

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I think Lipinski is really in trouble. But I also think it depends on who wins the governor race. If Pritzker wins this district, I doubt Lipinski goes anywhere but if Biss wins IL-3, he's toast.

I don't think it'll be tied that closely — there will be plenty of Pritzker/Newman voters, especially among union voters who don't trust Biss. The IFT, for instance, has endorsed both Newman and Pritzker.

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His record in Congress involves bringing a train station to his district just this past year, along with leadership on transportation issues (his district includes some rail yards too, atop all of that). How is that awful?

"On the one hand, he's an amoral monster who supports all the horrid policies advanced by the Republicans. On the other, he managed to secure part of the money to refurbish the second-largest Metra station in La Grange."

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It seems to me like these primary challenges are a clash between the old school union Dems and the young Obama style Democrats.

This is not a particularly useful binary, especially in this district — SEIU & AFT went for Newman, and both are fairly reliable on labor issues.

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important update on atlas's favorite moderate reasonable problem-solver
https://twitter.com/ourmaninchicago/status/973918321698537474

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His record in Congress involves bringing a train station to his district just this past year, along with leadership on transportation issues (his district includes some rail yards too, atop all of that). How is that awful?

So, about this...

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Preckwinkle is good, actually -- more importantly, she's another vaguely establishment-aligned IL Dem figure throwing their weight behind Newman. Suggests nobody, at least in the regular Democratic orgs, will be swooping in at the last second to save Lipinski

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anyone here sort of upset at the lack of decorum?

lmao who cares

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DOG SWEAT INTENSIFYING
https://twitter.com/AprilAugust76/status/975027899928580097