HB 19-44: Make Peebs Happy Again Act (Voting)

[Coastal Elitist]

Nay

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Aye

[Esteemed Jimmy]

The motion on whether to hold a final vote has passed by a vote of 5-2.

[Esteemed Jimmy]

A final vote has begun on this bill. Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.

SENATE BILL

A bill to make the life of the Registrar General easier

Be it enacted in both Houses of the Atlasian Congress

Make Peebs Happy Again Act

1. Section 14, point 6 of F.L. 1-9: Federal Election Act shall be amended as follows:

6. Any political party that has a total number of members equal to or greater than five is considered to be an organized political party.

2. This bill shall become enacted immediately after passage

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

AYE

[fhtagn]

Nay

[Poirot]

I've already visited Congress a few times about this but here I am to beg you again to not proceed with raising the requirement to be an official party.

You don't have to hamper political diversity to change the census presentation. I have suggested other ways to present the census if it is a problem while not changing the status of political parties. Congress didn't even discuss alternative census presentations.

Congress looks determined to erase some parties to have a more compact census. It doesn't seem to care it will remove the fun for some people. A party of three might not be seeking to become a dominant party and is happy being small. They could have their fun, they are visible because they are official. A new party could have more trouble taking off because it will take more time to become official and visible in the census presentation.

Keeping it easier to reach official party status can make the political environment more dynamic. You are not taking away the fun for some. I don't think you should try to lower the number of parties like you are doing.   

[JGibson]

NAY

[Dr. MB]

Nay

[YE]

Aye

[alancia]

Nay

[lfromnj]

Nay

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Aye

[Coastal Elitist]

Nay

[YE]

Not VP but this failed 3-6.

[Pericles]

Disappointing that Congress rejected this, 5 people is very easy to get, it's not some insurmountable burden. The parties under 5 members aren't even active parties anymore and realistically shouldn't linger on, but based on what Congress decided these zombie parties will linger on.

[Poirot]

Disappointing that Congress rejected this, 5 people is very easy to get, it's not some insurmountable burden. The parties under 5 members aren't even active parties anymore and realistically shouldn't linger on, but based on what Congress decided these zombie parties will linger on.

Easy to get depends on the persons involved. What I find disappointing is the will to change a long  standing basic rule and make it harder for a niche party, a new party or just small party to be official and visible and let those who are not in a mammoth size party have some fun and offer political diversity. If the problem is formatting the census then look inro that.

[Pericles]

Disappointing that Congress rejected this, 5 people is very easy to get, it's not some insurmountable burden. The parties under 5 members aren't even active parties anymore and realistically shouldn't linger on, but based on what Congress decided these zombie parties will linger on.

Easy to get depends on the persons involved. What I find disappointing is the will to change a long  standing basic rule and make it harder for a niche party, a new party or just small party to be official and visible and let those who are not in a mammoth size party have some fun and offer political diversity. If the problem is formatting the census then look inro that.

The Liberal Party is at least 5 now. The 3 parties on the census that have under 5 members are the Montfortians, PUP and the YT Cult. None of these are active parties, none of their members are active participants in the game (if they even vote at all). I think the big change is that the population of the game has increased, so 3 and 5 members have become much smaller as a share of the game and much easier to get. I don't see any point in these parties still being on the census-as I said all parties with fewer than 5 members are 'zombie parties'. Given the Liberals got to 6 members with relative ease, the People's Party got to 7 in a few days, and we have 8 parties that are at or above 5 members, this would not entrench the duopoly at all, but is a perfectly reasonable change.

[Dr. MB]

Disappointing that Congress rejected this, 5 people is very easy to get, it's not some insurmountable burden. The parties under 5 members aren't even active parties anymore and realistically shouldn't linger on, but based on what Congress decided these zombie parties will linger on.

Easy to get depends on the persons involved. What I find disappointing is the will to change a long  standing basic rule and make it harder for a niche party, a new party or just small party to be official and visible and let those who are not in a mammoth size party have some fun and offer political diversity. If the problem is formatting the census then look inro that.

The Liberal Party is at least 5 now. The 3 parties on the census that have under 5 members are the Montfortians, PUP and the YT Cult. None of these are active parties, none of their members are active participants in the game (if they even vote at all). I think the big change is that the population of the game has increased, so 3 and 5 members have become much smaller as a share of the game and much easier to get. I don't see any point in these parties still being on the census-as I said all parties with fewer than 5 members are 'zombie parties'. Given the Liberals got to 6 members with relative ease, the People's Party got to 7 in a few days, and we have 8 parties that are at or above 5 members, this would not entrench the duopoly at all, but is a perfectly reasonable change.

Both the YT Cult and the Montfortians dropped to under 3 this week, and PUP will too as long as Falloutboy doesn’t vote in October. The system is pretty self-regulating.

[SWE]

Aye