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« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2016, 09:57:04 PM »

Man, Bernie losing bums me out. Maybe I just won't vote at all.
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« Reply #101 on: June 06, 2016, 09:58:31 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2016, 10:00:21 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Question to everyone saying "This will depress turnout and Hillary will lose California!"

Is this why Cruz and Kasich have won everything since Indiana?

Wouldn't a lower turnout hurt Bernie anyway? Or so goes the myth, right?

Lower turnout definitely hurts Bernie. Most older people already voted absentee. It's pretty clear that this happened today to lower turnout out, hurting Bernie's odds of winning tomorrow and to minimize the impact of him winning tomorrow. Hopefully it's a pyrrhic victory that pushes Bernie over the edge to go 3rd party.
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« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2016, 09:59:56 PM »

Hillary has clinched now on CNN's website.
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« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2016, 10:02:11 PM »

From Clinton's twitter:

We’re flattered, @AP, but we've got primaries to win. CA, MT, NM, ND, NJ, SD, vote tomorrow!
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« Reply #104 on: June 06, 2016, 10:02:58 PM »

Wow, I get drunk and watch South Park for like four hours and this is what I miss.
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« Reply #105 on: June 06, 2016, 10:05:57 PM »

Can we try to keep this about Hillary? I'm all for congratulating her, and letting her supporters gush about how great they feel. It is historic, and I don't want to be a buzzkill, I felt great when Obama won in '08, and her supporters deserve to feel great today/tomorrow.

What I mean is, can we keep the mocking of Sanders and his supporters to a minimum? I don't think that's necessary.
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« Reply #106 on: June 06, 2016, 10:10:59 PM »

BEAUTIFUL!
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« Reply #107 on: June 06, 2016, 10:18:44 PM »

CNN calls it and flubs a headline (in the caption under the picture)

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« Reply #108 on: June 06, 2016, 10:19:56 PM »


They left out "under FBI investigation" .
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« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2016, 10:20:25 PM »

You're so funny and clever, jfern.
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« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2016, 10:21:30 PM »


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« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2016, 10:22:37 PM »

You're so funny and clever, jfern.

I know, right? Forget CrabCake, we need to rename the funny posts megathread after Jfern. In fact, why not name every megathread after Jfern? Except the bad posts one, of course. We can name that one after the $hill herself.
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« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2016, 10:41:31 PM »

So tomorrow doesn't matter.  Oh, well.

Congratulations, Clinton supporters.

Guess I'll be voting Green in November. :/ (Unless she picks Warren or someone acceptable for veep)
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« Reply #113 on: June 06, 2016, 10:42:13 PM »

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« Reply #114 on: June 06, 2016, 10:43:10 PM »


I bow down.
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« Reply #115 on: June 06, 2016, 10:49:08 PM »

Pro tip: don't go to Reddit right now.
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« Reply #116 on: June 06, 2016, 10:51:12 PM »

Pro tip: don't go to Reddit right now ever.

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« Reply #117 on: June 06, 2016, 11:01:12 PM »

I look forward to Jfern spending all of 2017-2020 talking about how Hillary's presidency is doomed and that Bernie 2020 will totally be a thing.
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« Reply #118 on: June 06, 2016, 11:03:00 PM »

https://www.twitter.com/cbellantoni/status/739994014984736768

#theplotthickensmaybe
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« Reply #119 on: June 06, 2016, 11:06:06 PM »

It was inevitable... so why does it still feel so sweet for it to finally happen?
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« Reply #120 on: June 06, 2016, 11:17:31 PM »

YAAAAAS QUEEN
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« Reply #121 on: June 06, 2016, 11:20:04 PM »

So tomorrow doesn't matter.  Oh, well.

Congratulations, Clinton supporters.

Guess I'll be voting Green in November. :/ (Unless she picks Warren or someone acceptable for veep)

Thank you.

In an ideal world I'd also be voting Green, but for now, until the third parties make headway in these Presidential elections, I'll stick with where I feel that my vote counts.
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« Reply #122 on: June 06, 2016, 11:26:35 PM »


All this means is they had some super-delegates who were going to vote for Hillary hold off on announcing their intent until now for the media coverage.  It's a silly move because the optics are bad to clinch via supers over pledged; but they really must be growing tired of the Sanders campaign and wanting to send a message that she has this wrapped up regardless of tomorrow's events.  Whether it's useful or not is to be seen.


What's so good about clinching it tonight versus tomorrow night? If she had told the supers wait until wednesday, she gets the clinch call tomorrow on network special coverage, drawing in millions of viewers for her victory speech. This way, there is no clinch call to make tomorrow since it has already been made. Tomorrow's elections might be played by the media as a 'referendum on the superdelegates' that will be deemed to have failed if CA votes Bernie. It will be clear that the contests are a complete afterthought. Far fewer people will watch Clinton's victory speech. It could dramatically lower pro-Clinton turnout. It gives Sanders's anti-superdelegate rage additional credibility. And it just looks bad to get the last few with supers. Clinton should have been very clear with the renaming supers - you hold off until Wednesday (or late Tuesday night) or I will disavow your endorsement.
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« Reply #123 on: June 06, 2016, 11:35:19 PM »


All this means is they had some super-delegates who were going to vote for Hillary hold off on announcing their intent until now for the media coverage.  It's a silly move because the optics are bad to clinch via supers over pledged; but they really must be growing tired of the Sanders campaign and wanting to send a message that she has this wrapped up regardless of tomorrow's events.  Whether it's useful or not is to be seen.


What's so good about clinching it tonight versus tomorrow night? If she had told the supers wait until wednesday, she gets the clinch call tomorrow on network special coverage, drawing in millions of viewers for her victory speech. This way, there is no clinch call to make tomorrow since it has already been made. Tomorrow's elections might be played by the media as a 'referendum on the superdelegates' that will be deemed to have failed if CA votes Bernie. It will be clear that the contests are a complete afterthought. Far fewer people will watch Clinton's victory speech. It could dramatically lower pro-Clinton turnout. It gives Sanders's anti-superdelegate rage additional credibility. And it just looks bad to get the last few with supers. Clinton should have been very clear with the renaming supers - you hold off until Wednesday (or late Tuesday night) or I will disavow your endorsement.

I was thinking that the SDs decided to commit tonight so as to depress turnout tomorrow in California and in states where Bernie is expected to do well.  A loss for Clinton in CA would still look embarrassing even if she didn't need it.  Although it could also backfire with Clinton supporters staying home and pissed off Bernie supporters turning out to say "Fck you" to the superdelegates.

Either way, tomorrow should be very interesting now.
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« Reply #124 on: June 06, 2016, 11:40:14 PM »


All this means is they had some super-delegates who were going to vote for Hillary hold off on announcing their intent until now for the media coverage.  It's a silly move because the optics are bad to clinch via supers over pledged; but they really must be growing tired of the Sanders campaign and wanting to send a message that she has this wrapped up regardless of tomorrow's events.  Whether it's useful or not is to be seen.


What's so good about clinching it tonight versus tomorrow night? If she had told the supers wait until wednesday, she gets the clinch call tomorrow on network special coverage, drawing in millions of viewers for her victory speech. This way, there is no clinch call to make tomorrow since it has already been made. Tomorrow's elections might be played by the media as a 'referendum on the superdelegates' that will be deemed to have failed if CA votes Bernie. It will be clear that the contests are a complete afterthought. Far fewer people will watch Clinton's victory speech. It could dramatically lower pro-Clinton turnout. It gives Sanders's anti-superdelegate rage additional credibility. And it just looks bad to get the last few with supers. Clinton should have been very clear with the renaming supers - you hold off until Wednesday (or late Tuesday night) or I will disavow your endorsement.

Your thinking about this too much. I doubt this has any effect tomorrow.
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