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« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2008, 08:37:44 AM »

Looks normal to me. Sometimes I wish we had red and blue like it is in the media on this site.

I'm actually happy we do it this way. The media do it incorrectly! Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2008, 10:53:37 AM »

Looks normal to me. Sometimes I wish we had red and blue like it is in the media on this site.

I'm actually happy we do it this way. The media do it incorrectly! Smiley

I agree Cheesy  One of the many reasons I love this site.

I dunno, this'll probably be wrong by November, but it'll be great to compare: Grin


Obama: 51% - 273 EVs
McCain: 48% - 265 EVs

Confidence map, at this time:

60% = Strong confidence
40% = Might switch, but fairly confident
30% = Definite swing state
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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2008, 10:54:48 AM »



Here we go.
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« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2008, 11:09:17 AM »

Some of these maps are just .. wow ..
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« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2008, 11:58:55 AM »



I'll be generous to McCain, and will probably turn out wrong but I'll hope for the best! Tongue
New Hampshire has been trending dem for a long time. 2004 was a decent year for Bush and it still went democrat. What makes you so sure it'll end up GOP?
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« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2008, 01:54:14 PM »



I'll be generous to McCain, and will probably turn out wrong but I'll hope for the best! Tongue
New Hampshire has been trending dem for a long time. 2004 was a decent year for Bush and it still went democrat. What makes you so sure it'll end up GOP?

New Hampshire likes McCain. If there was any other Republican running I would have given it to Obama.
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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2008, 02:22:05 PM »

If it was Romney running I could possibly see your map due to him being more moderate but the perception of McCain is that he's almost entirely a bush clone so...
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« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2008, 04:04:08 PM »

If it was Romney running I could possibly see your map due to him being more moderate but the perception of McCain is that he's almost entirely a bush clone so...

Not by the public in general.
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« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2008, 04:09:05 PM »

I really dont know



Obama: 293
McCain: 245

I had a hard time guessing which way Missouri and Ohio would go :/ Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, and Pennsylvania could go either way too I guess.
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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2008, 04:32:11 PM »

I'm aware that this will look foolish by November

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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2008, 04:34:56 PM »

What prediction of the popular vote goes with your map Alcon? 
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2008, 04:40:32 PM »



Alabama - Obama is basically a dead cert do better than Kerry. (Anybody who isn't Al Sharpton should do better in 08 than Kerry did in 04.) Wether he can do as well as Gore remains to be seen. Certainly not all that very much better. Halfway mark between Gore and Kerry is under 60 for the Rs, hence why I'm feeling reasonably well about the 50 shade. Wouldn't be totally shocked if McCain broke 60 though.
Alaska - is not the state it used to be, politically. It's still safe, mind. 60-40, remember, is a 3-2 margin.
Arizona - nothing to say here.
Arkansas - has enough white evangelical democrats left that Obama *could* do considerably worse than Kerry. That's pretty rare outside the northeast (Kentucky would be another example).
California - safe.
Colorado - up in the air. We're supposed to break tossups here, aren't we?
Connecticut - McCain could play pretty well here. Could even take it, doubt it though.
Delaware - Ditto
DC - Time for that 90%! Grin
Florida - don't see it, somehow. 2000 was something of a fluke thanks to a weird turnout pattern (not perhaps surprisingly, Florida had the greatest 2000-4 turnout increase in the nation.)
Georgia - too many suburbs. Too much suburban growth. Safe Rep.
Hawaii - should swing back from 04. Hard. And I mean hard. This is the kind of place where local sondom should actually affect results.
Idaho - No idea if McCain breaks 60 here (or indeed anywhere), actually. Guess he will though.
Illinois - Can Obama do even better than Kerry in the Chicago burbs? Yes. Can he do even worse than Kerry in the southern part of the downstate? Probably not. 60 is unlikely but not quite impossible.
Indiana - Yeah well, goes without saying, really.
Iowa - feeling good about that one.
Kansas - Getting the Reps below 60 here should be easy.
Kentucky - Obama is polling insanely badly here - a while ago according to the three poll average it was his weakest state in the nation, not sure about right now - , and based on that alone 60 is actually an option for McCain. It's not as if Bush missed by much. But... you know... all those polls were while Clinton rolled out a big primary win... Yeah, really, I just don't want to believe it.
Louisiana - nothing to say.
Maryland - no idea which way this state'll trend and could make a good argument either way, but the next color category is a long way away.
Massachusetts - doesn't take a large swing for McCain to get Obama below 60, and could certainly happen.
Michigan - New Jersey lite as far as early polling bias goes. (And New Jersey is Germany lite.)
Minnesota - safe.
Mississippi - nothing to say.
Missouri - could totally go either way, but you have to break tossups.
Montana - it'd be hilarious if the state actually flipped, but no.
Nevada - doesn't have to happen, of course.
New Hampshire - yeah, McCain should play very well here. Needn't be enough, but I guessed it will.
New Jersey - Probably 2004 territory, certainly not 2000 territory.
New Mexico - Close as usual... Obama might profit from Udall's coattails.
New York - these big swings towards Bush in Staten Island and Rockland and South Brooklyn? Yeah well, these people aren't coming back this year. Hence <60, though the Upstate should be worse for McCain than Bush.
NC - Probably quite closeish. Don't see it actually flipping, though.
ND - See Kansas, Montana. Somewhere in between there.
OH - Closer than last time.
OK - Seeing as Bush cracked 60 against Gore... I went with 60 again.
OR - Totally safe.
PA - not safe, but definitely a major uphill struggle for McCain.
RI - Right around the 60 line again. Perhaps.
Not really anything to say about the next few states.
VT - Obama should do better than Gore because a lot of old reps have died in between, worse than Kerry because Bush was a hilariously bad candidate for the state and McCain isn't.
VA - Being cautious here.
WA - Totally safe.
WV - Hopefully not as bad as 2004.
WI - Looking good.
WY - see ID.
ME - safe.
NE - not sure what to make of the polling there. Probably nothing, in which case McCain >60 is likely after all.
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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2008, 04:41:13 PM »

I'm more likely to have been too cautious with the swings than too wild.
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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2008, 06:23:10 PM »


Sorry, but Georgia isn't going Democrat.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2008, 07:27:22 PM »

Yeah. NH most likely isn't going republican either
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2008, 09:45:09 PM »



Obama 273 (52%)
McCain 265 (47%)
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2008, 10:10:51 PM »


Eh, I'm not so sure you're correct.  McCain will likely heavily contest the state, and it is very friendly territory for McCain.  We'll see - it can go either way. 
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2008, 11:42:31 PM »

We don't have to be so critical. We're just predicting the result in November which could be completely crazy or the same as 2004. Just have fun.
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2008, 10:14:53 PM »

Laaaast call!
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2008, 01:36:28 AM »

No one got it exactly right, so I'm not quite sure how I'll determine a winner. The entire thread is worth a read though.
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« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2008, 01:39:28 AM »

I really dont know



Obama: 293
McCain: 245

I had a hard time guessing which way Missouri and Ohio would go :/ Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, and Pennsylvania could go either way too I guess.

HEY I got Ohio right Cheesy


but alas, the rest is fail.
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« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2008, 01:43:46 AM »

This thread is from the time where Obama was supposed to have no chance in Florida, Indiana and North Carolina, right? That would explain why almost noone had them red.
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« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2008, 01:46:18 AM »

teehee.

Evidently none of us believe that Obama had a chance in Florida. Also I nailed the popular vote in my prediction. Tongue
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