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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 25, 2016, 12:56:51 PM »

prayers to you guys in israel. hope  the fires get put out asap. I also hope that the arsonists (no matter how many or little there are) are caught and brought to justice in their individual cases.

as less faith i have in the israeli government, as much faith i have in the israeli justice system.



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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 09:56:17 PM »

"the government" doesn't want it...bibi himself seems to be opposed but benett enforces it afaik.

and i think, this is like in the US...right-wing judges are usually not "right-wing" but married to the constitution.

court packing would be the death of the democracy in israel, imho. it's the biggest difference to all other countries in the region.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 10:16:19 AM »

i can respect....even while not sharing...the sentiment of literal, uncontrolled, direct democracy but hungary is as stacked in one direction as is turkey. seems like a bad example, imho
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Austria


« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 11:23:48 AM »

as far as i am concered, the charming lady holding the title of justice secretary is kind of fascist herself. but that's just me.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 11:34:42 AM »

let's be clear without hyperbole or name-calling:

is the separation of power a problem, an obstacle for democracy or something which just adapts itself if someone wins one or several elections?

if think this is a global "problem" aka a burning question.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 09:28:21 AM »

likud is going to lead as long as the israeli people want a right-wing government, imho, there couldn't be a conservative to right alliance at all without likud as "melting pot".

the more "centrish" parties and the "identity politics" parties - religious and secular - would not be able to find a working compromise, imho.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 03:47:53 PM »

flawless moderates doing good as always during election desert.

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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 11:19:37 AM »

Why did the government closed channel 1?
It was garbage for decades, hardly anyone watched it and it was synonymous with public inefficiency (also very prone to political influence).

the government closed a state-run channel cause it was prone to political influence?
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2017, 09:36:53 AM »

zeman is mostly a corrupt, soft-authoritarian drunkard but i am kind of impressed he is pro-israel.

isn't such a common stand between local "right-wingers".
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 10:29:45 AM »


Well culturally at least, he's a man of the left. He mostly just hates Muslims.

i know, but i haven't seen a lot of difference between him and his "conservative" predecessor. Smiley
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2017, 11:55:40 AM »

Partisan breakdown of the Czech vote here. All parties voted for except for the Social Democrats (most abstained, 8 yea, 4 nay) and Communists (most opposed it). Czechia is pretty pro-Israel.

do you know anything about this?

seems to be more the exception than the rule in the region.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,603
Austria


« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2017, 12:31:06 PM »

Sorry for rambling, hope this is a bit coherent.

coherent and convincing enough for me, thank you.

as an austrian i am ofc blessed knowing quite a lot about the unraveling of the empire and the sentiments in the separate new "states", but i could be even more interesting for other users and your connection of the dots seems quite helpful.

i would still argue that hungary and poland are - on the personal/single citizen level - more antisemitic than, let's say, austria/netherlands, but on a foreign policy level i think you are correct.
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