Civil War in Syria

[Goodwin]

Sorry if this was addressed earlier in the thread, I only skimmed the first few pages, but for all the people who vehemently support the rebels and believe the West should supply them arms or even intervene militarily: why? Not to say you should like Assad, but how do you see a better outcome if the rebels win? Especially if they win with some extra toys from the West? Does anyone seriously not think the country will descend into sectarian, near-genocidal slaughter if the rebels win?

It's Western geopolitical madness aimed at stopping the Chinese and Russian influence within the Middle East and Africa. The Zbigniew Brzezinski policy. Nothing to do with freedom or democracy. Egypt is a mess, Libya is a mess, Syria is a mess, Iraq is a mess, Lebanon and Mali are in the process. The end goal is, of course, the destabilization of Iran. It always has been. The West have continually overthrown, or tried to overthrow, governments that don't promote their interests (Operation Gladio in Europe during the Cold War, Iran 53, Chile and Afghanistan in the 1970s, as well as Iran in 79, Latin America in the 1980s - Nicaragua and Panama, Afghanistan 2001 and Iraq 2003). Some of these were actually democracies as well - shock horror! 

Do I like President Assad? No. Do I like the so-called Free Syria Army? No way. If you want stability, bite the bullet and stick with the more secular Assad for now, reform can come later. If you want chaos then by all means root for the opposition, largely full of Islamist fighters and foreign mercenaries, but it won't get any better. Oh and here is a hint - if Saudi Arabia are endorsing / arming the opposition you know that democracy is not the goal.     

Why do I think this? I study Geopolitics at university, along with other geography / political modules. This doesn't mean that I'm right of course but I have some knowledge in this area and this is simply my opinion. It's incredibly ignorant to believe everything you see in the western press / media.

Read Samuel P. Huntington's book "The Clash of Civilizations".

Also Belgian MP Laurent Louis has recently said this in parliament:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCTZDH3WDjo

[Goodwin]

hmm.....sounds like I hit a nerve. I apologise for that but I stand by on what I said. For your information, I do not endorse any political party or organisations and I'm certainly not an apologist for the Assad regime. That being said however, I believe in the importance of national sovereignty, respect for international law, and the right for the Syrian people to decide their own political future without such a future being imposed on them by outside forces. I based my previous post on research that I have done on the crisis over the last couple of years. I'm simply against the genocide of the Syrian people and I hope peace comes quicker rather than later. How is Libya coming along after the murder of Gaddaffi? Any word on the Libyan blacks being killed by Libyan deathsquads? If the secular Assad falls then I wish the Alawite, moderate Shia and Sunnis, Jews, Druze and of course the Christians all very best and I urge no more violence, although I doubt this will happen.   

http://www.obv.org.uk/news-blogs/black-genocide-libya-why-silence
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/07/07/libya-ethnic-cleansing/

A favourite opposition argument is that peaceful protesters restrained themselves for a long time until the “brutal crackdown by the Assad regime”. However, Robert Fisk of the Independent – first real western journalist to visit Daraa (where the so-called uprisings began) – found a very confusing scene.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-inside-daraya--how-a-failed-prisoner-swap-turned-into-a-massacre-8084727.html

“Being the first western eyewitness into the town yesterday was as frustrating as it was dangerous. The bodies of men, women and children had, of course, been moved from the cemetery where many of them were found; and when we arrived in the company of Syrian troops at the Sunni Muslim graveyard – divided by the main road through Daraya – snipers opened fire at the soldiers, hitting the back of the ancient armoured vehicle in which we made our escape. Yet we could talk to civilians out of earshot of Syrian officials – in two cases in the security of their own homes – and their narrative of last Saturday’s mass killing of 245 men, women and children suggested that the atrocities were far more widespread than supposed.”

Who are these mysterious “snipers” firing at the Syrian soldiers and Robert Fisk then?

Notice that witness Leena says a number of dead bodies were lying in the street BEFORE the Syrian Army even turned up – who shot these then? The snipers?

The article continues to talk to other eyewitness of the tragic event. Many people in the comment section are beginning to say that Fisk was being biased. I’m not so sure – he is a respective journalist in the Middle East who has criticized Dictator President Assad on a number of occasions. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-assad-faces-his-peoples-hatred--but-as-their-anger-grows-his-excuses-are-still-just-the-same-6287792.html

Now, do these snipers belong to the Free Syria Army or the Syrian Army? My conclusion is NO. Are these snipers working for someone else? There must be a chaotic third party involved. We know that Al Qaeda has been working in Syria along with Al Nusra and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group – do the snipers belong to them? Who is funding these terriost networks?

Here are some references confirming the presence of Islamist networks terrorising Syria:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/us-syria-crisis-town-idUSBRE90T0VH20130130
http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-clinton-admits-us-on-same-side-as-al-qaeda-to-destabilise-assad-government/29524
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/01/28/al-qaeda-syria-bombing/1869959/
http://www.newser.com/story/154739/reporter-killed-by-sniper-in-syria-during-live-broadcast.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/06/houl-j16.html