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Hindsight was 2020
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« on: March 05, 2017, 05:25:25 PM »

Oh please with that Glenn Greenwald bs the "dems" aren't making this a story it's an actual story. It's like saying Watergate was "the dems focusing too much on Watergate" no it's am actual story being reported in the news
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2017, 05:29:50 PM »

The thing is, Russia is such a paper tiger of a state. Its people are probably the unhealthiest in the developed world, its economy is nothing to brag about, it's largely disliked by its neighbours, its environment is wrecked, the population is stagnant and probably will start declining again and the whole system is kept afloat by increasingly cheap appeals to rabid nationalism and to the personality cult of Putin. I don't really see why people are so goddamned frightened of the country - unless you're from Latvia or something.
Ask Trump and his "Hillary will start WW3 with no fly zones in Syria so we must vote Trump for peace in our time" fans
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 05:49:31 PM »

Of course. Is the goal to make the Republicans who yelled "BENGHAZI" seem sane in comparison? It's time to talk about the issues.
As Virginia said "Democrats are not manipulating time and space to create meetings between Trump administration officials and Russian officials. These are all things Trump's circle has engaged in, and at this point there is a real question of whether there was deals made between Trump and the Russians."
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2017, 06:59:53 PM »

The problem is that there's been a bunch of non-stop developments in the Russia story for the last 2-3 weeks.

And in that same time, Trump hasn't done anything policy-wise that's a big story like the Ban was.

Let's not kid ourselves. This Russia/Trump story is a huge crisis in public confidence in government... and possibly in national security... in unprecedented ways.

Also, from the purely political perspective, the only thing to come out against Trump so far that actually bothers a majority of Trump supporters is the Russia story.
^This^ Seriously how are the dems not suppose to talk about it the president of the United States may have worked with a foreign power to hack his political enemies in order to win. Just because some here felt "they deserved it" doesn't mean it is not the worst scandal since Watergate
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2017, 07:19:20 PM »

Yes, and in the long run voters really not going to care much.
People said the same about Watergate
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2017, 08:38:44 PM »

It's kind of taken a life of it's own.   I don't think the Democratic Party has as much control over this as you seem to think it does.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2017, 09:50:04 AM »

Yes. I see it as a way for Democrats to get out of saying they need to change. "Oh, no, there's nothing wrong with us. Hillary actually won the popular vote. But the other side cheated." Not to mention, it's being used as their main narrative as opposed to other things. If there was as big a push for universal healthcare and a living wage from Democrats right now as a call for investigations into Russia connections, I'd have a lot more faith in the party going forward in stopping Trump in both Congress and at the ballot box.
People say this but the dems aren't really acting like that. I know people here where mad about Perez but he is a progressive who openly acknowledges the grassroots need funding and has gone to these areas. Also they choose Beshear for the response. In both cases the party has acknowledged they need to connect more with rural whites an bread/butter issues
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