Congressional Special Election (last call! unstickied after NY-27 final results)

[The Mikado]

Bagel just dug himself into a hole early on with his self-righteous skepticism and can't walk it back without fear of looking like an idiot, so he just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper.

Sworn affidavits by voters? I don't believe them.

Wildly divergent voting patterns? Coincidence.

Testimony by the literal people who committed the absentee voter fraud? I don't believe them.

The GOP Senator of NC saying he thinks redoing the election is proper? What a shame.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

So who gets to decide the question about the election returns? Ryan’s house or Pelosi’s? Pelosi needs the new members to elect her and presumably Harris would be sworn in along with those new members. If he’s sworn in, he’d have to be removed, not refused.

While the swearing-in is done en masse, for it to count, you not only have to be in the room but also must have your certificate of election on file with the house. And decisions about which certificates will be on file and which will be held back for Committee on House Administration Review are made by the incoming majority. However, we don't even get to that point because the certificate has not even been submitted - if the state never certifies the election, there is no certificate to put on file, and so Harris is ineligible regardless of what Hoyer/Pelosi want to do.

[Virginiá]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

[Antonio the Sixth]

for f**k's sake

[GeorgiaModerate]

There's a clear distinction between presenting a different point of view in a way that is well-thought out, and just parroting the same sentiment over and over again without actually adding anything of substance to a thread. Saying that the folks who argue that a poster shouldn't do it are actually the "mindless" ones is peak Moderate Heroism.

Where would we be without our dear moderates, society's *unbiased* warriors here to defend stupidity as being just as valid as intelligence and keep reason and sanity in check.

This moderate had enough of him and banished him to Ignoria.

[Person Man]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

Else they are cucked. Simple as that. They should investigate all the shenanigans in Florida and Georgia, too.

[Nyvin]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

They don't even want the investigation "conducted".   That really shows they have no interests in seeing if there was actually fraud or not, they just want Harris seated no matter what.

[Storr]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

They don't even want the investigation "conducted".   That really shows they have no interests in seeing if there was actually fraud or not, they just want Harris seated no matter what.

The NC GOP doing NC GOP things.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/1070109777106210817

[Hindsight was 2020]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

Can’t Cooper just refuse to sign it until the new non-summer majority is seated?

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Republicans everywhere scream "VOTER FRAUD" and "ILLEGAL VOTERS!" at the top of their lungs for literally decades, and here we have the first authentic, substantiated case of it, and now they're all pessimistic and dismissive simply because it's being done by Republican operatives and benefits the Republican candidate.

Color me shocked.

Voter fraud to Republicans is blacks voting. Law and order for blacks only is the new GOP creed.

[lfromnj]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

Can’t Cooper just refuse to sign it until the new non-summer majority is seated?

when is the new non super maj seated?
He has 10 days otherwise its effectively a law.

[Storr]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

Can’t Cooper just refuse to sign it until the new non-summer majority is seated?

when is the new non super maj seated?
He has 10 days otherwise its effectively a law.

According to this, January 1.
https://ballotpedia.org/Swearing-in_dates_of_state_legislators_elected_on_November_6,_2018

[lfromnj]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

Can’t Cooper just refuse to sign it until the new non-summer majority is seated?

when is the new non super maj seated?
He has 10 days otherwise its effectively a law.

According to this, January 1.
https://ballotpedia.org/Swearing-in_dates_of_state_legislators_elected_on_November_6,_2018

Yeah Cooper can't do much here RIP but the court will strike it down anyway and he should be good by then.

[Virginiá]

If NC Republicans had to celebrate Christmas in the legislature chamber(s) in order to secure a Congressional seat possibly stolen via fraud, they absolutely would.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Called it:

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1070102416828325896

How can this even be constitutional?

[Xing]

Just when you think that the Wisconsin GOP or Michigan GOP could take the title for "most corrupt state party", again the North Carolina GOP says "hold my beer."

[Sestak]

The NCGOP could literally decide to send state police to kidnap the families' of the state Supreme Court and only release them if they upheld Harris winning and Bagel and Calthrina would still insist that the Democrats protesting their actions are the real problem because they're being "uncivil" and "sore losers".

[Roblox]

The NCGOP could literally decide to send state police to kidnap the families' of the state Supreme Court and only release them if they upheld Harris winning and Bagel and Calthrina would still insist that the Democrats protesting their actions are the real problem because they're being "uncivil" and "sore losers".

The thing is, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the NCGOP actually did that.

[The Mikado]

If Cooper can at least delay 10 days from the passing of the bill, that's 10 more days of investigation. That means Cooper should at least be able to delay to the 17th or 18th at least, depending on how many days it takes NC GOP to pass this in the first place. The NC SBOE said December 21st for the report, right? That's cutting it super-close for the NC GOP.

[lfromnj]

ok im done
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1070111027268866051

At this point just finish the math and place a new election.
Honestly actually certify it and refuse to seat harris and restart the election with new primaries as bob pittenger was cheated out of his seat.

[jimrtex]

Harris supposedly got 96% of the absentee vote by mail in Bladen County. What is the precedent for scoring in the high 90s in absentee vote in a county that is roughly evenly split in a race that is roughly evenly split?

I'll take my answer off the air.

"There are people who are registered Democrats in the South who don't always vote for Democrats" is not a meaningful reply.

Huh? You are mixing things up.

Absentee Vote: Harris 61%, McCready 38%, Libertarian 1%
Election Day: Harris 59%, McCready 39%, Libertarian 2%
Early Voting: Harris 56%, McCready 43%, Libertarian 1%.

Note that the Early Voting location is in Elizabethtown, which is more Democratic than the district as a whole. While anyone in the county may drive to to the Elizabethtown it is less convenient. If one compares the election day turnout to population, that for Elizabethtown is depressed. One can drive or walk over to the library any day for about two weeks and vote, or wait until a particular Tuesday. Ealy voting cannibalizes election day voting.

The absentee voting is representative of the in person voting.

Are you confusing NC-7 with NC-9?

[jimrtex]

https://twitter.com/NickOchsnerWBTV/status/1070044877298249728

Quite interesting!

Jeff Smith is portrayed as some sort of whistleblower in the general election.

North Carolina election-fraud investigation centers on operative with criminal history who worked for GOP congressional candidate

But in the primary election, Billy Ward, the candidate favored by Jeff Smith, got 55% of all his votes from absentee ballots. Jim McVicker, the  candidate supported by McRae Dowless got 92% of the election day votes, but only 55% of the absentee vote.

[TomC]

Harris supposedly got 96% of the absentee vote by mail in Bladen County. What is the precedent for scoring in the high 90s in absentee vote in a county that is roughly evenly split in a race that is roughly evenly split?



I'll take my answer off the air.

"There are people who are registered Democrats in the South who don't always vote for Democrats" is not a meaningful reply.

Huh? You are mixing things up.

Absentee Vote: Harris 61%, McCready 38%, Libertarian 1%
Election Day: Harris 59%, McCready 39%, Libertarian 2%
Early Voting: Harris 56%, McCready 43%, Libertarian 1%.

Note that the Early Voting location is in Elizabethtown, which is more Democratic than the district as a whole. While anyone in the county may drive to to the Elizabethtown it is less convenient. If one compares the election day turnout to population, that for Elizabethtown is depressed. One can drive or walk over to the library any day for about two weeks and vote, or wait until a particular Tuesday. Ealy voting cannibalizes election day voting.

The absentee voting is representative of the in person voting.

Are you confusing NC-7 with NC-9?

He’s talking about the primary, for which Dowless was also employed by Harris. See the image above?

Harris got 437 to 17. In no way is that representative of normal. And recall the candidate who got 17 votes was a sitting Congressman.

To add



Is the graphic that shows why the 61% figure in the general is an outlier.

[Landslide Lyndon]

These Republican idiots obviously don't understand that by shielding Harris and the fraudsters are giving one more excuse to the House to refuse seating him and order a new election.