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« on: May 04, 2024, 12:47:22 PM »

More economically populist but hard on immigration? More classically American right with promises of the state no longer getting in the way?
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2024, 12:49:10 PM »

To prison. That's not hyperbole.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2024, 02:44:05 PM »

It will end up with the Muricamaidan concert on the national mall leading into Taylor Swift 2028
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2024, 02:46:55 PM »

Nominate Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro in 2028. After another term of Trump, they would probably win a 2008-style landlide. Democrats would probably be also fine in 2026 then. These are the only silver linings with this stupid moron coming back.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2024, 03:12:35 PM »

Perhaps someone should restore the soul of the democrat party. Biden is a disgrace.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2024, 03:26:04 PM »

No more 82 year olds. The next nominee will be under 60, if not under 50.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2024, 03:37:19 PM »

Gavin Newsom is gonna run in 28 regardless, if Biden loses Harris would automatically be out in 28 but if Biden wins as expected, Harris will be competetive

Why do you think I have my Newsom banner up because he is the heir apparent in 28
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2024, 04:08:08 PM »

I can see a car crash of Dem governors claiming to be sensible moderates (while being huge pussies re: crime, immigration, etc.) with an actual hardcore lefty accumulating substantial support until either there is coordinated dropout to help the strongest polling governor, or the lefty wins. Lefty gets destroyed by VP Dakota Doug, "moderate governor" is close.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2024, 04:09:27 PM »

I can see a car crash of Dem governors claiming to be sensible moderates (while being huge pussies re: crime, immigration, etc.) with an actual hardcore lefty accumulating substantial support until either there is coordinated dropout to help the strongest polling governor, or the lefty wins. Lefty gets destroyed by VP Dakota Doug, "moderate governor" is close.


Newsom would beat Youngkin or DeSantis in 28, it's the same blue wall states
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2024, 04:16:05 PM »

Strong performance in the 2026 midterms due to Trump.  The 2028 nominee is a "pragmatic progressive" who goes on to win by a 2008-like margin.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2024, 04:54:51 PM »

Ask the Mensheviks.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2024, 05:22:36 PM »

Nominate Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro in 2028. After another term of Trump, they would probably win a 2008-style landlide. Democrats would probably be also fine in 2026 then. These are the only silver linings with this stupid moron coming back.

Strong performance in the 2026 midterms due to Trump.  The 2028 nominee is a "pragmatic progressive" who goes on to win by a 2008-like margin.

I agree with both of these.

It's still not worth another term of Trump. This country will be set back decades, especially with the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2024, 05:24:29 PM »

Nominate Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro in 2028. After another term of Trump, they would probably win a 2008-style landlide. Democrats would probably be also fine in 2026 then. These are the only silver linings with this stupid moron coming back.

Strong performance in the 2026 midterms due to Trump.  The 2028 nominee is a "pragmatic progressive" who goes on to win by a 2008-like margin.

I agree with both of these.

It's still not worth another term of Trump. This country will be set back decades, especially with the Supreme Court.


Gavin Newsom is the heir apparent he has been on more TV shows he is all but running , it's gonna be the Harris and Newsom primary, it won't be Shapiro or Whitmer, if anything Shapiro can be AG in Newsom cabinet

Do you honestly believe he is gonna go on talk shows for nothing, no he is running but he can't say it until Biden is reelected
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2024, 05:32:44 PM »

Jamie Harrison is gonna step down as DNC chair in 28 and run for Sen for Tim Scott seat, Scott is retiring and Shapiro can run the DNC in 28, he can serve as Newsom AG until Thomas retires, in 2032 or later and be SCOTUS JUDGE, I support both but Newsom is in line first over Shapiro for the Prez

SC and NC are gonna be swing states not FL and we still will see about TX, but Carolinas will be swing states. Jamie Harrison will make SC a swing state in 28 if he runs for Sen in 28
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2024, 06:06:53 PM »

Nominate Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro in 2028. After another term of Trump, they would probably win a 2008-style landlide. Democrats would probably be also fine in 2026 then. These are the only silver linings with this stupid moron coming back.

I would not be so sure about a 2008 style landslide . Keep in mind the 2008 election was a tossup on September 14th 2008 despite the fact that Bush’s approvals were in the 20s , we were mired in a very unpopular war in Iraq , economic pessimism was high (though not as high as it would be later in the campaign) , and the democrats nominating a once in a generation talent .

It wasn’t until the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the financial crises happening that turned the 2008 election into a rout . Otherwise it probably is a narrow Obama victory (where Obama gets between 300-320 EV) . My guess is Dems probably would be favored to win but probably semi closely .

Now on the flip side the GOP did nominate McCain in 2008 who was personally pretty popular while today the Republicans don’t really have anyone on their bench who fits that .
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2024, 07:09:48 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2024, 07:13:33 PM by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers »

Ducey fits that but the Rs censured him and caused him to leave the R party altogether because he certified Kelly as the winner.

He was getting ready to run for S before the Rs censured him.

McCain was turning into a D anyways because AZ has become a D state

We will have a better chance in 26 if Guiterrez runs against Cornyn to turn TX blue TX is too red with Trump on ballot
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2024, 08:07:47 PM »

They moderate and pick someone under 55 and who will campaign more center left.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2024, 02:44:41 AM »

The garbage!

But realistically they'll probably crush the Republicans in the midterms if Trump wins no matter what they do or don't do.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2024, 10:20:09 AM »

The Democrats are going to come to crossroads and will have to make a decision on which way to go. Right now, their current coalition cannot stand because so many of their various voting blocks have interests diametrically opposed to each other. We are already seeing the fissures with these campus protests.

Put it bluntly, you cannot be a party that appeals to both upper class suburbanites and young leftists & minorities. It's basically the bourgeoise and the proletariate in the same party which is laughable and no one with common sense thinks that can possibly stand.

I personally would rather have a working-class focused Democratic Party because historically that is what the party has been. Dems were the party of labor and the GOP was the party of commerce. You have liberals, conservatives, & moderates in both parties and what made someone a Democrat or Republican was more based on region & socioeconomic status, not necessarily ideology. And guess what, back then the country was far less polarized.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2024, 11:12:01 AM »

Try to win Macomb County again.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2024, 04:26:19 PM »

According to Republicans, if Biden wins then he can stage a coup and remain in power.

And liberals can learn from the GOP’s mistakes in this regard.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2024, 04:34:44 PM »

Where they should have been in 2016.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2024, 04:39:25 PM »

It's a 303 map in 26 and 28 that's why Biden won't lose
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2024, 05:28:49 PM »

Nominate Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro in 2028.



Pres Whitmer/VP Shapiro would be a solid ticket for 2028.

(I would also very happily take VP Raphael Warnock or Ruben Gallego)
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2024, 06:00:47 PM »

If Trump wins, there won't be a 2028 election, at least not a free and fair one.
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