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Question: How much trouble are the Dems in...?
#1
Relax!.. Kerry lost by under 3% - Things are fine, don't overreact
 
#2
The Dems need a better candidate, but the fundemental "message" is fine
 
#3
The message needs a "tuneup" but not an overhaul
 
#4
The Dems need to substantially rethink themselves, but can rebound
 
#5
The GOP has entered a period of structural dominance
 
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« on: December 02, 2004, 02:38:59 AM »

Wrong!

Clinton and Gore were DLC members.

Kerry is an unrepentant, reflexive (unthinking) and highly dishonest ultraliberal.
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2004, 08:51:45 AM »

Unfortunately, while I think Mark Warner is the most electable Democrat for 2008, I suspect the three strike rule will apply, and the national Democrat party will again nominate a lefty in 2008, and loose again.

After that, they will probably back off and nominate someone reasonable.
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2004, 08:56:18 PM »

You forget that there are still two seats up (Louisiana CDs 3 and 7).

The odds are currently running about 9/1 that the Republicans will win at least one of the seats, and a little better than 50/50 they will win both.

So, if the Republicans win both seats in Lousiana, your posting will have proven to be incorrect.
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2004, 07:21:52 AM »

In Louisiana 03

Tauzin (R) got 32% vs Melancon (d) who got 24%

Total of all GOP candidates was 59%, so this seat looks string for the GOP

In Lousiania 07

Boustany (R) got 39% vs Mount (D) who got 25%

However total Dem vote was 51% vs 49% GOP - Flip a coin on this one, though with lower runoff turnout the Dem may have a tiny edge, though Vitter getting 51% for the GOP in the senate race is a very positive GOP sign.

Runoffs in Louisiana are, to put it mildly, hard to predict.  The state polls badly, and turnout is like a yo-you so you don't even really know what your even trying to sample...


While what you note of the actual vote totals in the first election is true, your conclusions are a little open to question.

In the 3rd, Tauzin's initial campaign was very hard on the other Republican (who has declined to endorese him).

In the 7th, Mount conspired with the state party to shiv the other major Democrat in the race (Cravins), who has declined to endorse her.

I suspect that That Tauzin III will eke out a victory in the 3rd, and the Boustanay will beat Mount decisively in the 7th.
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CARLHAYDEN
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E: 1.38, S: -0.51

« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2004, 07:23:40 AM »

You forget that there are still two seats up (Louisiana CDs 3 and 7).

The odds are currently running about 9/1 that the Republicans will win at least one of the seats, and a little better than 50/50 they will win both.

So, if the Republicans win both seats in Lousiana, your posting will have proven to be incorrect.

When will those be decided?


Saturday, December 4, 2004.  If the major TV news media doesn't cover the results, you can conclude the Republicans won both races.
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