HB 19-44: Make Peebs Happy Again Act (Voting)
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« on: August 20, 2019, 08:39:35 PM »
« edited: August 30, 2019, 03:50:52 PM by Esteemed Vice President Jimmy7812 »

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SENATE BILL
A bill to make the life of the Registrar General easier

Be it enacted in both Houses of the Atlasian Congress
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Make Peebs Happy Again Act

1. Section 14, point 6 of F.L. 1-9: Federal Election Act shall be amended as follows:

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6. Any political party that has a total number of members equal to or greater than five is considered to be an organized political party.

2. This bill shall become enacted immediately after passage
People's Regional Senate
Passed 5-1 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,


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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2019, 08:40:28 PM »

This needs a sponsor.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 11:20:24 PM »

Are we good with 2%? An exact percentage was a bit of a concern on the Senate debate thread.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 11:32:17 PM »

Absolutely cannot support this. It only hurts smaller and newer parties, and will do absolutely nothing to stop "meme parties".

Whether or not it looks "nice" on a page is completely irrelevant.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2019, 12:43:02 AM »

amendment:

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SENATE BILL
A bill to make the life of the Registrar General easier

Be it enacted in both Houses of the Atlasian Congress
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Make Peebs Happy Again Act

1. Section 14, point 6 of F.L. 1-9: Federal Election Act shall be amended as follows:

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6. Any political party that has a total number of members equal to or greater than two percent of the total number of Register voters five is considered to be an organized political party.

2. This bill shall become enacted immediately after passage
People's Regional Senate
Passed 5-1 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 08:04:19 AM »

amendment:

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SENATE BILL
A bill to make the life of the Registrar General easier

Be it enacted in both Houses of the Atlasian Congress
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Make Peebs Happy Again Act

1. Section 14, point 6 of F.L. 1-9: Federal Election Act shall be amended as follows:

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6. Any political party that has a total number of members equal to or greater than two percent of the total number of Register voters five is considered to be an organized political party.

2. This bill shall become enacted immediately after passage
People's Regional Senate
Passed 5-1 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,


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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2019, 02:23:17 PM »

Isn't 5 currently the rule?
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2019, 05:00:14 PM »

I post one of my intervention in the Senate thread bill. If the problem is presentation of the census I suggest of finding other ways to present census, maybe put the bigger parties in a table and the others separately. I'm Chair of a small party and this bill will make it harder to be visible and survive.

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I am strongly opposed to increasing the number of members required for an organized party. You should not make it harder for small parties to be visible to give them a chance to grow. Or only because a few people should have a party they believe in, and respecting political divversity.

Not sure if it's the formating in the census that is causing problems (too many columns). If it's that maybe it would be acceptable to list the smallest parties below the table, just one line by party. Like
SOS party 2-0-1
XYZ party 0-0-3 (numbers are members for the three regions).

Or even if it respects the requirements, just for the smallest parties list only the number of members below the table so the public knows they exist.

SOS party 3
XYZ party 3 

The problem we have is mammoth parties, it's not the tiny parties so maybe try to find ways to accomodate the RG without changing a longstanding rule of our democracy.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2019, 10:25:22 PM »

It’s at 3 now.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2019, 10:54:25 PM »

I believe 2% of our current voters is around 5 anyway. So unless anyone has a problem with the amendment I'm fine with it
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2019, 11:23:05 PM »

Here is the thing. If you set it at a percentage that is linked to the total population, then the number will always be a fair number no matter what the population is.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2019, 03:34:22 PM »

I believe 2% of our current voters is around 5 anyway. So unless anyone has a problem with the amendment I'm fine with it

2% would be 6 people under the current numbers and unless Atlasia's population drops below 250.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2019, 09:06:22 PM »

Is it fair the more zombies are recruited, the harder it becomes for small parties to blossom. I ask to review the method of census presentation if it causes a problem but not change the political party requirement.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2019, 11:26:08 PM »

Motioning for a final vote
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2019, 11:27:51 PM »


Representatives have 24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2019, 11:45:52 PM »

Withdrawing the motion
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2019, 10:44:49 PM »


Motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2019, 11:10:38 PM »


Representatives have 24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2019, 01:38:34 AM »

Objecting to the final vote motion
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2019, 09:56:46 AM »

A vote on whether to hold a final vote has started. Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2019, 11:18:16 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2019, 11:32:08 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2019, 11:34:43 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2019, 11:57:39 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2019, 01:26:26 PM »

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