Was Hillary,s loss inedible or a surprise

[Da2017]

There were signs trump could pull it off. Almost every pundit though she was going to win.Polls had her ahead within margin of error.

[Karpatsky]

I for one had trouble swallowing it.

[Mr. Smith]

Both.

The loss was inevitable, but the exacts by which it happened (aka The Midwest massively swinging rather than narrow flips in Nevada and New Hampshire) were quite surprising.

[Hydera]

Both.

The loss was inevitable, but the exacts by which it happened (aka The Midwest massively swinging rather than narrow flips in Nevada and New Hampshire) were quite surprising.

Nevada - i was shocked because i thought the hispanic vote would make her win there comfortably but it turns out trump turned out a lot of white voters in the state both suburbanites and wwc in vegas and then elsewhere in the state which made it far closer than i had imagined.

Colorado - I thought she would win 8-10% but it was 5% but she lost friggin Pueblo county.

Florida - another nevada type surprise, the white turnout there was so large that it swamped any turnout increase amongst latinos

Mid-west - I knew it was going to be bad but i didnt know it was going to be THAT bad.

Virginia - Thought it was going to be 8-10% there but the suburban vote fell short and the non-metropolitan counties had larger turnout than expected.

[here2view]

I had her winning 302-236. The Midwest was the biggest surprise and it's not even close.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

The loss was not inevitable, in fact it could have easily been avoided.

[Boss_Rahm]

I for one had trouble swallowing it.

Yeah, I couldn't stomach a Hillary loss either.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It was a surprise. I expected her to win Iowa narrowly... Lol

[Rookie Yinzer]

Is it weird to say both?

Trump was such a buffoon and everything looked like it was going in Hillary's favor, but yet the Trump cultural wars and "economic anxiety" and her being perceived as out of touch with regular people combined with unenthused minority voters makes the loss feel inevitable.

[Boss_Rahm]

In all seriousness I'd say neither. So many things had to fall into place for Trump to win. Arguably, if the calendar had dictated that the election was on November 2, Clinton would have won.

But at the same time, anyone who dismissed Trump's chances from the beginning wasn't paying attention.

[Xing]

I was more surprised than I should have been, and it certainly wasn't inevitable. At the very least, WI, MI and PA were winnable for her, and FL probably was too.

[bagelman]

Is it weird to say both?

Trump was such a buffoon and everything looked like it was going in Hillary's favor, but yet the Trump cultural wars and "economic anxiety" and her being perceived as out of touch with regular people combined with unenthused minority voters makes the loss feel inevitable.

Agree with this

[Beet]

The year one learns one's own opinion has zero value whatsoever:

Pre-election: Have to deal with everyone treating her as inevitable even tho U know she's not.
Post-election: Have to deal with everyone treating it as a surprise even tho it wasn't.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I saw it months before. Many on here were blinded and became tribal.

[TML]

At the time, it was a surprise to me, since the vast majority of the polls leading up to Election Day (both state and national) indicated that Hillary was going to win.

In hindsight, however, some prominent political commentators saw conditions which were ripe for Trump to exploit and win.

[Dr. MB]

Wasn’t a surprise for me like it was for, it seemed, a lot of people I know. It didn’t matter much to me, though - since I knew from the start that whoever won would be massively disliked and unable to accomplish much of anything.

I just thought it was ridiculous that all the networks waited so long to call Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania - it was a false sense of hope for all the pundits and people who were legitimately surprised.

[Horus]

I saw it months before. Many on here were blinded and became tribal.

[Pericles]

It wasn't inevitable, and could have easily been prevented. However the extent to which it was unprecedented and a shock is overrated, as it was always possible and going by a fundamentals-based model even likely.

[dw93]

It was a surprise on election night, especially losing Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. I knew it wasn't going to be a landslide like many thought it was going to be (there was no way she was winning Arizona, Missouri, Indiana, Texas, etc...), at best she could do Obama 2008 minus Indiana, and even that was stretching it. I also knew Trump had a chance in Ohio, Florida (Obama's two closest states in 2012), and North Carolina.

In Hindsight, it was avoidable,  a surprise, and at the same time inevitable. Minority turnout was going to be an issue no matter what in the first election without Obama at the top of the ticket, Hillary made a ton of mistakes (taking a month off of the campaign trail, chasing #nevertrump Republicans that weren't going to vote for her, taking the base for granted, etc...), and Trump tapped into a lot of frustrations with the economy and economic insecurity. It's still surprising to me that this country could elect Donald Trump President.