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« on: April 12, 2016, 07:59:04 PM »

What are the chances of Kerry being Hillary's pick for VP?

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2016, 08:14:39 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2016, 08:15:55 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 08:19:12 PM »

He's too stiff and boring
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 08:22:11 PM »

Well he has command over the undead segment of the population...
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 08:22:18 PM »

If a serious foreign policy crisis emerges, he could be a dark horse veep like he was in 2008 for Obama and 2000 for Gore. Heck, he could be a backup if Clinton is indicted and if Democratic establishment officials are worried about Sanders. He won't add anything electorally other than NH.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 09:28:38 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 09:40:00 PM »

If a serious foreign policy crisis emerges, he could be a dark horse veep like he was in 2008 for Obama and 2000 for Gore. Heck, he could be a backup if Clinton is indicted and if Democratic establishment officials are worried about Sanders. He won't add anything electorally other than NH.

Kerry was not seriously considered for Obama's VP at any point. Although I suppose you did say "dark horse" but that's a cop out by which you can claim every politician ever was a dark horse because someone said their name on the internet.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 10:26:37 PM »

That's... not actually a terrible pick? (If you're concerned with picking a VP based on qualifications to be president and not as a mostly futile, half-assed attempt to appeal to a geographic or demographic block of voters...)
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 10:33:10 PM »

almost none. He offers nothing in electability, he failed in a run, and he's not well liked
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2016, 11:15:20 PM »

If a serious foreign policy crisis emerges, he could be a dark horse veep like he was in 2008 for Obama and 2000 for Gore. Heck, he could be a backup if Clinton is indicted and if Democratic establishment officials are worried about Sanders. He won't add anything electorally other than NH.

If a new foreign policy crisis emerges, John Kerry will resign as Secretary of State?
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2016, 11:32:13 PM »

Small chance. I highly doubt the Democratic ticket would consist of two septuagenarian Northeasterners (and in the case of Sanders, two male New Englanders).
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2016, 07:50:30 AM »

No geographical diversity.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2016, 08:02:27 AM »

It is good to see democracy working well to ensure the best person is selected for the job.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2016, 09:14:05 AM »

I suggested him about a year ago based largely on a mathematical error on my part that led me to believe he would be 63 at the time on election day and not 73.

I suggested him on the basis that as with Bill Clinton doubling down on youthful southern centrism by picking Al Gore (Al Gore was a mostly centrist U.S Senator which was partly why his campaign for the Presidency in 2000 of 'the people vs. the powerful' was such a surprise) that Hillary Clinton could double down of foreign policy expertise.

The consensus was that  the Republican majority senate wouldn't vote on a replacement for Secretary of State so it would require a 'lame duck' acting Secretary of State to be in place for nearly six months and that simply wouldn't work.
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2016, 09:24:07 AM »

Foreign policy is the weakest point in the argument for "Obama's third term", it would be very tone deaf to put both of Obama's Secretaries of State on the ticket.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2016, 09:30:23 AM »

- Too old
- No demographic nor geographic balance
- Would make an impression that Hillary cares more about foreign affairs than domestic policy

Kerry would a plausible presidential contender this year, had he ran, but a VP? No.
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2016, 09:34:01 AM »

LOL, yes because hes done such a wonderful job as SOS.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2016, 09:53:33 AM »

Could he even run? Isn't there an act that stops diplomats from actively campaigning (I remember talking to the US ambassador to the UK, who was an Obama campaign financier from 08 and he spend about 10 minutes tripping over himself not to attack the tea baggers
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2016, 09:53:37 AM »

LOL, yes because hes done such a wonderful job as SOS.

Obama's record on foreign affairs is light years ahead of George W. Bush's record.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2016, 09:59:32 AM »

LOL, yes because hes done such a wonderful job as SOS.

Obama's record on foreign affairs is light years ahead of George W. Bush's record.
So is Arthur Zimmerman's...
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2016, 10:22:32 AM »

Too old. Also, leaves Hillary too open to criticism on foreign policy despite all available evidence suggesting she'd take a markedly different approach from Obama.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2016, 10:37:55 AM »

LOL, yes because hes done such a wonderful job as SOS.

Obama's record on foreign affairs is light years ahead of George W. Bush's record.
So is Arthur Zimmerman's...

So is John Profumo's (although he was Secretary of State for War and not Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary.)
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2016, 03:02:10 PM »

I guess it's possible since I think Clinton's main objective is to find a good VP rather than worrying about electability (since she'll probably win anyway). However, Kerry is a bit old, and he'd have to quit his current job in order to campaign.
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