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« on: January 26, 2009, 04:15:19 PM »
« edited: January 26, 2009, 09:03:52 PM by I could not think of a good user name »

How would the 1996 election go if Bush won?

Who would be the frontrunners for the Democratic and Republican nominations? How would the primaries go? Who would the nominees be? Who would be the VPs? How would the general election go?

Discuss with maps if you wish.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 05:36:08 PM »

For the Republicans probably Quayle.

Possible Democrats include: Gore, Graham, Bradley, Wilder, Kerrey, Gephardt, Biden, Cuomo, and Nunn.

I'll say the two tickets would be Quayle/Gramm vs Gephardt/Wilder

Gephardt: 302
Quayle: 236
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 11:42:59 PM »

Democrat
Senator Al Gore (TN)/Senator George Mitchell (ME)                    273 EV

Republican
Senator Richard Lugar (IN)/Governor Pete Wilson (CA)             265 EV

After 16 straight years of Republican administration, Senator Gore emerges the victor in a closely contested election.

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 11:57:36 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2009, 11:59:18 PM by Nicodeme Depape »

Democrat
Governor Mario Cuomo (NY)/Governor Ann Richards(TX)

Republican
Vice President Dan Quayle (IN)/Senator Bob Dole (KS)



By the way, that is my 1992 or 1996 wet dream ticket for the Dems.

After 16 straight years of Republican rule, and with both Cumou and Richards being heavy weights within their party--it turns into a landslide.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 12:05:02 AM »

Dems:

John Kerry, Al Gore, Dick Gephardt, Douglas Wilder, Mario Cuomo, Joe Biden.

GOP:

Bob Dole, Dan Quayle,



Biden/Bradley 351 EV
Quayle/Kemp 187 EV
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 12:30:42 AM »

Democratic
Senator Al Gore of Tennessee
Governor Evan Bayh of Indiana

Republican
Vice President Dan Quayle of Indiana
Former Governor Carroll Campbell of South Carolina



341-197

Democratic Senator Al Gore of Tennessee ends sixteen straight years of Republican rule by soundly defeating Vice President Dan Quayle. Senator Gore's victory over the Vice President is remarkably similar to Bill Clinton's RL 1996 victory, although Gore loses Ohio, Colorado and Lousiana.

BTW: Winfield, why do you believe that if Governor Pete Wilson was on the Republican ticket in 1996 that he would have been able to swing California for the Republicans? After all, at the time of the 1996 elections his popularity was hovering around a measly 20 percent, or am I confusing that with Wilson's 1992 figures?
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 11:50:27 AM »
« Edited: January 27, 2009, 11:52:00 AM by Romney/Graham 2012 »

Conor, Pete Wilson was a popular and competent U.S. Senator from California and Governor of California.

His record as Governor is very impressive. 

Pete Wilson would have been a credible and competent nominee for Vice President.

In my scenario, the Presidential nominee, Richard Lugar, has former President and former California Governor Ronald Reagan campaign for him up and down California.  Between Wilson and Reagan, they are able to deliver California to Lugar by a narrow margin. 

He left office with a public approval rating identical to that received by Ronald Reagan at the conclusion of his service as Governor.

So it is reasonable to assume that the Governor was enjoying a good level of approval during his term, in this case in 1996. 

This is from the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.  The link follows.

I am not sure of his approval ratings at the time of the 1996 Presidential election, however, he did enjoy Reagan level approvals when he left office.

Besides, don't complain, I gave the victory and the Presidency to Gore.

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=about.profile&person_id=12983

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Pete Wilson was California’s thirty-sixth chief executive, serving as Governor from 1991 to 1999. Wilson previously served eight years as a United States Senator (1983-1991), eleven years as mayor of San Diego (1971-1983), and five years as a California state assemblyman (1967-1971). Most recently, he was co-chair of the campaign of Arnold Schwarzenegger to replace Gray Davis as governor of California.

Wilson’s eight years as governor saw California emerge from the depths of recession to a resounding economic recovery. Inheriting the state’s worst economy since the Great Depression, Wilson insisted on strict budget discipline and rehabilitation of the state’s then hostile environment for investment and job creation. Among the many pro-business accomplishments of his administration, he provided for market-based unsubsidized health coverage for employees of small businesses, and obtained anti-fraud measures that drove down workers’ compensation premiums by 40 percent.

Governor Wilson also successfully pushed to enactment sweeping welfare reforms, including time limits and work requirements, and historic education reforms, including rigorous curricular standards, class-size reduction, and the replacement of social promotion with early, effective remedial education. He also began new programs of individualized testing of all students, teacher-competency and training, a longer instructional year, and a return to phonics and early mastery of reading, writing and mathematical skills.

Wilson led efforts to enact tougher crime measures and signed into law “Three Strikes,” (25 years to life for repeat felons) and “One Strike,” (25 years to life upon the first conviction of aggravated rape or child molestation). He left office with a public approval rating identical to that received by Ronald Reagan at the conclusion of his service as governor.

He is of counsel to Bingham McCutchen LLP and is a principal in Bingham Consulting Group LLC. After leaving office, Wilson spent two years as a managing director of Pacific Capital Group, a merchant bank based in Los Angeles. He serves as a director of The Irvine Company, U.S. Telepacific Communications, Inc., National Information Consortium, Inc. and IDT Entertainment. He is a member of the Board of Advisors of Thomas Weisel Partners, a San Francisco merchant bank.

President George W. Bush appointed Governor Wilson to serve upon the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld appointed him a member of the Secretary’s Defense Policy Board. While still in the Senate, Wilson received the Distinguished Alumnus Award from Boalt Hall. As Governor, he was the first recipient (1997) of the Bernard E. Witkin Amicus Curiae Award given by the Judicial Council of California in recognition of his outstanding contribution to the enhancement and more effective operation of California’s state court system.

Since leaving office, Wilson has received the Woodrow Wilson Institute award for Distinguished Public Service and was awarded the Patriots Award by the Congressional Medal of Honor Society.
Wilson is a Distinguished Visiting Fellow of the Herbert Hoover Institution of Stanford University, concentrating on the reform of primary and secondary education, and national security issues, and the governing boards of the National D-Day Museum, the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation, the Richard M. Nixon Library and Birthplace Foundation, and the Donald Bren Foundation, and as founding director of the California Mentor Foundation.


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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 07:59:41 PM »

Wilson was a great Governor and what makes him an eben more epic Governor is that you have to compare him to Davis and Schwarzenneger!
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 10:59:31 AM »

Wilson was a great Governor and what makes him an eben more epic Governor is that you have to compare him to Davis and Schwarzenneger!

True, and clearly Davis and Schwarzenegger do not measure up to nearly the standard set by Wilson.
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