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« on: April 13, 2019, 07:26:45 AM »

Who do you prefer?

For me it's Teddy Roosevelt easily
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 07:44:40 AM »

Roosevelt.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2019, 08:29:05 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2019, 09:34:47 AM »

I don't think anyone picking quasi-socialist Theodore Roosevelt over St. Reagan is really going to identify as a Republican.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2019, 09:36:07 AM »

Reagan, Roosevelt was a RINO and today would be a Democrat
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 10:16:24 AM »

I don't think anyone picking quasi-socialist Theodore Roosevelt over St. Reagan is really going to identify as a Republican.

What was progressive in the 1900s was far different than what became progressive in mid 20th century (which is what Reagan mostly opposed ).


 
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 10:16:50 AM »

As Presidents Teddy Roosevelt

But if it’s Reagan vs 1912 Teddy than Reagan
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2019, 10:38:05 AM »

I don't think anyone picking quasi-socialist Theodore Roosevelt over St. Reagan is really going to identify as a Republican.

1) Lol Kay @ the bolded.

2) Two Republicans did just that above you.

3) Reagan, though both were good.  Teddy provided some progressivism when it was needed for balance, and Reagan provided some conservatism when it was needed.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2019, 07:17:03 PM »

I don't think anyone picking quasi-socialist Theodore Roosevelt over St. Reagan is really going to identify as a Republican.

What was progressive in the 1900s was far different than what became progressive in mid 20th century (which is what Reagan mostly opposed ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Progressive_National_Convention#The_Platform

A candidate with this platform today would be to the left of several 2020 Democratic candidates. The guy was running on Medicare for All (not under that name obviously) over 100 years ago! A candidate supporting the tight regulation of business would get skewered even in a Democratic primary today, and his stances on things like Social Security, minimum wage, standard work week, women's suffrage, allowing a federal income tax, infrastructure improvements, and campaign finance reform were all going out on a limb back in 1912.

The rebuttal to my point would be to point out how Reagan himself legalized abortion in California, single-handedly killed an initiative to ban gays from teaching in public schools (this would pass most red states today, but he did it more 50 years ago!!!), was generally sympathetic to unions, etc., but Republicans get really triggered by stuff like that.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2019, 07:22:58 PM »

TR lived until 1919 and had a political career going back to the 1880s.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2019, 07:51:48 PM »

I don't think anyone picking quasi-socialist Theodore Roosevelt over St. Reagan is really going to identify as a Republican.

What was progressive in the 1900s was far different than what became progressive in mid 20th century (which is what Reagan mostly opposed ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Progressive_National_Convention#The_Platform

A candidate with this platform today would be to the left of several 2020 Democratic candidates. The guy was running on Medicare for All (not under that name obviously) over 100 years ago! A candidate supporting the tight regulation of business would get skewered even in a Democratic primary today, and his stances on things like Social Security, minimum wage, standard work week, women's suffrage, allowing a federal income tax, infrastructure improvements, and campaign finance reform were all going out on a limb back in 1912.

The rebuttal to my point would be to point out how Reagan himself legalized abortion in California, single-handedly killed an initiative to ban gays from teaching in public schools (this would pass most red states today, but he did it more 50 years ago!!!), was generally sympathetic to unions, etc., but Republicans get really triggered by stuff like that.

President Roosevelt and 1912 Roosevelt were pretty different, and by this question I was assuming it was asking who was the better president


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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2019, 01:16:57 AM »

Reagan.
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