When reading about the parties, there really is not a single good party. All are awful.
Out of the top four, DA is the worst for me personally due to their support for genocide.
Therefore
If i were Afrikaner: VF+ (because support for independence and ceasefire)
If i were black: Lean ANC. (because of ICJ case)
If i were muslim: Al Jama-ah (because of support for Gaza)
ANC probably is the most stable party and the party i would vote for, with the context i have right now, since EFF is a bit too extreme, even for me. But it's likely if South Africa didn't start the ICJ case that i would've gone for EFF anyways. It's def not the "left-wing" i stand for, but it's not like there's much of an alternative or that ANC is better.
Personally, i don't think South Africa in its current form can exist and should evolve towards dissolution and the formation of several independent states, a Zulu state, a Cape State, Afrikaner/Boer states and a Xhosa state.
Voted for VF+ since well i'm more closely related to Afrikaner than anything else, and they deserve to be independent, not because of blacks but more because of the Anglicanized character of South Africa, as well as protecting the Afrikaners language.
EFF is “a bit too extreme even for me”, but you’re also inclined towards VF+. Is horseshoe theory finally real?
Stupid reply really. Don't even think VF+ is far-right. The only reason i would be supportive of them is because I would agree with Afrikaner nationalism and right of an independent state and because they have a better stance on israel-gaza than DA. I really though would be a left-wing Afrikaner nationalist, not a right wing. But they do not really belong within South Africa, which already is a state that will sooner or later fracture anyways. And I do believe they have a right of self-determination. But i would not expect an Anglocentric person to truly understand... since well South Africa is part of the Anglophone cultural influence sphere.
Everyone who doesn't vote DA would be called an extremist anyways... so why do I even bother. The majority of this forum thinks there is only one right ideology. Everyone else is an extremist.
if you truly believe that than go ahead.
I don’t think supporting a white ethnostate in South Africa is very congruent with leftist politics, to put it mildly. I’m sorry for being too Anglocentric to support the noble Afrikaner people in their quest for liberation.
Also, i'm a leftist.
I support Ukraine's right of self-determination and reject the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and consider it a violation of its territorial integrity.
I oppose the Israel's practices of illegal occupation, colonization and their illegal settlements in the West Bank, and believe Palestinians have a right to self determination.
I support the Kurds right to a self determination and would support Kurdish independence. I support Hawaii's right of self-determination. I support Tibetan right of self-determination. Xinjiang, Chechnya,
If the Scottish or Catalonians would decide to vote in favour of secession in a referendum, i would also support that. Since I don't think it's my place to say they shouldn't, but I would respect the decision they make in that referendum.
2 centuries ago, our country was in the same kind of position. We fought for independence, and claiming anyone else doesn't deserve independence would mean neither would we or neither would the USA.
As a leftist, i'm against any kind of oppression, i'm against any kind of occupation, imperialism, colonization, warfare. That's why i'm in favour of the right of self-determination for any ethnicity or group of people that is culturally distinctionable. I do that not because I hate cultures, but because I love most cultures in the world. I believe in international cooperation, international diplomacy, not only on a global scale like the UN but also on a more regional scale like the EU. Some kind of South African Union that would stimulate cooperation between a fractured South Africa would be preferrable i believe (and Namibia + Botswana + Eswatini & Lesotho could be included in such regional alliance/cooperation).
It baffles me that so many leftists are against that, in particular given independence and creation of new states was a big part of decolonization process.
