October 2019 Federalist Convention, Atlanta, GA (Results +"Short" Yankee Speech)

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

just saying from an outside perspective, it would be dumb of the Feds not to vote for Lfromnj. He's practically the only one on the right who gives a sh!t.

Are you implying that I don't give a sh!t?

[Dr. MB]

just saying from an outside perspective, it would be dumb of the Feds not to vote for Lfromnj. He's practically the only one on the right who gives a sh!t.

Are you implying that I don't give a sh!t?

You've been decently active but Lfromnj has been doing all the recruiting for the Feds.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

just saying from an outside perspective, it would be dumb of the Feds not to vote for Lfromnj. He's practically the only one on the right who gives a sh!t.

Are you implying that I don't give a sh!t?

You've been decently active but Lfromnj has been doing all the recruiting for the Feds.

Recruiting isn't the whole job of Vice Chair. We have the appointed position of Outreach Coordinator for instance. Being Vice Chair means being a face of the party itself and being someone able to run things both behind and in front of the scenes. Having a vision also matters as well as being able to integrate new members into the party so we can avoid mistakes of the past.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

just saying from an outside perspective, it would be dumb of the Feds not to vote for Lfromnj. He's practically the only one on the right who gives a sh!t.

Are you implying that I don't give a sh!t?

You've been decently active but Lfromnj has been doing all the recruiting for the Feds.

That isn't so. I recruited 3 new people and got 1 recently departed member back in past week and some change.

I love how Discord has these narratives get shot up in the air like balloons, especially when I get to pop them and bring them back down to earth.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Voting ends in two hours or so.

[lfromnj]

Anyway the more dissapointing loss would be Toledo beating Sandy Hook

[lfromnj]

By my count I either won with a 7-6 -1 vote or winning in the 2nd round with fairbols vote transferring to me for an 8-6.
Anyway I thank everyone who voted for me and I will work well with yankee,former opponents for vice chair, and the rest of the Federalist party to bring us back in December. Frankly what came about in the October was just embarrassing with us putting no effort. This blame largely includes myself. I almost did nothing besides my own vote in October.  However now I feel determined  that we can win in December and in the future with a larger base and being able to swing a few more voters will not only get us back our 3rd seat but even our 4th. Despite what Wulfric may say,we are not dead and beating us once only makes us come back stronger. My fellow Federalists,join us and let's make the Feds great once again.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

I would like to congratulate lfromnj on winning the VC race as well as all of the people who came out to vote and give a sh!t about what's going on in our party. I'll still be here doing what I think is best so that we can win again and make the Feds great again!

Here are the results of the city vote. It looks like our next convention will be in Toledo, OH, Lincoln.

Candidates=9 Seats=1 Votes=14 Quota=7
Raw votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Phoenix, AZ) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) (New York, NY) (none)
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Norfolk, VA) (Phoenix, AZ) (New York, NY) (Charlotte, NC) (none)
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Phoenix, AZ) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (none)
vote 5: (Hartford, CT) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Phoenix, AZ) (New York, NY) (Hartford, CT) (none)
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 8: (Truth and Consequences, NM) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 9: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Phoenix, AZ) (Norfolk, VA) (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Sandy Hook, KY) (none)
vote 10: (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 11: (Charlotte, NC) (Phoenix, AZ) (Toledo, OH) (New York, NY) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) (none)
vote 12: (Phoenix, AZ) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Toledo, OH) (none) (none) (none)
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none)
Round 1 votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Phoenix, AZ) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) (New York, NY) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Norfolk, VA) (Phoenix, AZ) (New York, NY) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Phoenix, AZ) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) vote value = 1
vote 5: (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Phoenix, AZ) (New York, NY) (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 8: (Truth and Consequences, NM) vote value = 1
vote 9: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Phoenix, AZ) (Norfolk, VA) (Toledo, OH) (Camden, NJ) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Charlotte, NC) (Phoenix, AZ) (Toledo, OH) (New York, NY) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) (Camden, NJ) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Phoenix, AZ) (Charlotte, NC) (Norfolk, VA) (Hartford, CT) (New York, NY) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 5
Charlotte, NC = 2
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 1
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 2
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 3
Truth and Consequences, NM = 1

Fewest votes won by a candidate = 1.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 2.
The tiebreaker loser is Phoenix, AZ.
Phoenix, AZ is eliminated.
Round 2 votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 5: (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 8: (Truth and Consequences, NM) vote value = 1
vote 9: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 5
Charlotte, NC = 3
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 0
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 2
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 3
Truth and Consequences, NM = 1

Fewest votes won by a candidate = 1.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 1.
Truth and Consequences, NM is eliminated.
Round 3 votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 5: (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 8: vote value = 1
vote 9: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Hartford, CT) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Charlotte, NC) (Hartford, CT) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 5
Charlotte, NC = 3
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 0
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 2
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 3
Truth and Consequences, NM = 0

Fewest votes won by a candidate = 2.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 1.
Hartford, CT is eliminated.
Round 4 votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) (Charlotte, NC) vote value = 1
vote 5: vote value = 1
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 8: vote value = 1
vote 9: (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Charlotte, NC) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 5
Charlotte, NC = 3
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 0
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 0
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 4
Truth and Consequences, NM = 0

Fewest votes won by a candidate = 3.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 1.
Charlotte, NC is eliminated.
Round 5 votes
vote 1: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 5: vote value = 1
vote 6: (Sandy Hook, KY) (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 8: vote value = 1
vote 9: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Toledo, OH) (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: (Sandy Hook, KY) vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 5
Charlotte, NC = 0
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 0
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 0
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 7
Truth and Consequences, NM = 0

Fewest votes won by a candidate = 5.
Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 1.
Sandy Hook, KY is eliminated.
Round 6 votes
vote 1: vote value = 1
vote 2: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 3: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 4: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 5: vote value = 1
vote 6: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 7: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 8: vote value = 1
vote 9: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 10: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 11: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 12: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1
vote 13: vote value = 1
vote 14: (Toledo, OH) vote value = 1

Sandy Hook, KY = 0
Charlotte, NC = 0
Norfolk, VA = 0
Phoenix, AZ = 0
New York, NY = 0
Hartford, CT = 0
Camden, NJ = 0
Toledo, OH = 10
Truth and Consequences, NM = 0

Most votes currently held by a candidate = 10.
Number of candidates with the greatest number of votes = 1.
Toledo, OH has exceeded the quota and is elected. If there are seats remaining to be filled, the surplus will now be reallocated.
The election is complete and the elected candidates are (Toledo, OH).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Official Results

Chair:
NC Yankee (13): LFromNJ, UlmerFudd, RC, Wazza, TPH, TheSaint, Dip, LT, reagente, Encke, Sunrise, LT, Fairbol


NC Yankee reelected as Chair

Vice Chair:
LfromNJ (7): LFromNJ, UlmerFudd, RC, Wazza, TPH, AZ, TheSaint,
LT      (6): Dip, LT, reagente, Encke, Sunrise, LT
Fairbol (1): Fairbol

Fairbol is eliminated


LfromNJ (: LFromNJ, UlmerFudd, RC, Wazza, TPH, AZ, TheSaint,  Fairbol
LT      (6): Dip, LT, reagente, Encke, Sunrise, LT

LfromNJ elected as Vice Chair


Convention City: Toledo, Ohio

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Anyway the more dissapointing loss would be Toledo beating Sandy Hook

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you'll get what you need. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfYcQ_r_x8

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I will make a brief set of remarks.


To begin with I would like to thank the members of the party for placing their trust in me once again to lead the Party in such a trying time. I would also like to congratulate LfromNJ on his election as Vice. I expect we be working to together for the next several...years.

 We have been through highs and lows together and I am most definitely determined to see this one through just as we have all the others. It won't be easy, it wasn't easy in 2015 and it wasn't easy in late 2009/2010. One often finds that success can be short lived and fleeting. Just a few months ago (as can be seen in the OP to the Trillionth Federalist Party Thread), we had the Presidency, a closely divided house and a presence in all three regions, as well as outright control in the South. Just as it can be short lived, it is far quicker and easier to lose it all then it is to win it all back.

The amount of time that it takes for us to come back to power is directly correlated with the amount of interest, commitment and dedication to that effect from the members and the amount of collaboration and cooperation that exists among those people. The more drama, the more distractions, the more disunity, the longer it is going to take.

Another factor working against us this time, is the growing partisan radicalization as the RL poles ping pong us through mutual distrust and anger to ever greater division and hostility. This has clearly bled over into the game where we find ourselves trying to be competitive for the right in a game that has similar demographics to that of New York State.

Historically speaking, the Federalists have never been content to cede any of the three particular quadrants that we must unite as conservatives to win in this game. However, when the existence of a breakaway party that is centered on a particular quadrant has come to be, the Federalist Party has adapted to represent well the other two while still maintaining a foot in the door with the third. This is why the Federalist Party has typically always been able to reunite the center-right in this game. In 2014 when we had a strong presence of moderates and foreign policy interventionists, the Libertarians had a breakaway party. In 2015 when those moderates and foreign policy interventionists had a breakaway party, we shifted back towards libertarianism and conservatism. Likewise in 2017 when ACP first formed we shifted more moderate.

At the end of the day we are a big tent center-right party and we have to mind that position well and while adhering to our platform, which is rather conservative in general terms, we must never allow the ACP to pull us so far to the right as to make competitive elections impossible in this game. There are a number of fine ACPers in this game, some of whom I have known for many years. However, the ACP was formed with two objective 1) to allow us to avoid the heat as there members moved further and further right and 2) to shift the Overton Window to the right.

The problem is this has failed and while I don't desire to get into a Trends Board level discussion here, the main reasons are because 1. Political Science is often bullsh@$t and 2. Politics is heavily influenced by demographics, which yes can be changed but only to an extent. A much better understanding of political science is that politics is Newtonian and every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore if a portion of the right moves right, then the left (which is naturally much larger) will also move left.   That is why number two above was always doomed to fail and furthermore it bears being repeated that the successes that the right had in 2017 and into 2018, represented the most success that the right had ever had in TEN years of me being in this game and things were even worse prior to that period (right didn't even exist in 2007-2008). That the ACP was formed in reaction to the "moderation" of this "most conservative period", with the hopes of pushing the game more to the right, one can clearly see the dubiousness of this.

There is now, not a single region in the game were a generic conservative much less a solid conservative can win with just conservative votes. In every single region, you need to win swing voters and a piece of the left (basically what we successfully did in 2017 and 2018).

The ACP has every right to exist and I am not going to spend any more of my time litigating the premises of their creation, I exhausted that in March. However, when it comes to point number 1 about sparing the Feds the heat, this has not happened and this is because of the herd dynamic that is created by Discord political servers and the rally around the flag effect created by the left attacking ACPers. This has drawn Federalists into a position where we get all the negatives of the ACP existing and none of the benefits.

I am more than willing to work with and help ACPers where it is practical and they meet us at least  halfway. I have the utmost respect for Muaddib and would like to some day see him as Governor and I think he could pull that off, but he has to convince moderate voters to trust him. It can be done, I have seen people in a similar position be able to win regionally after much effort and outreach.


That being said, if you want a competitive game again. If you want to elect center right people to the White House again and win House majorities, it is going to have to be us as Federalists that make it happen. We have to bring together a coalition of people, conservatives (even if minus some of the solid ones), Libertarians and moderates together behind a positive platform. '

No one action or activity is going to fix these problems. We have to embrace all our members and all our diversity and emphasize the elements that unite all of us together as Federalists. Historically most all of our members have agreed on the basic premise promoted by a our name (it does have a meaning). The support for a Constitutional Federal Republic and all of the various provisions that protect it and stabilize it and the freedoms it enshrines. Rather than feeding the beast of extremism (again Issac Newton) by centralizing authority in the federal gov't, and thus triggering secessionist impulses, we need to push for a balance that respects the regions and empowers the federal gov't just enough to protect our constitutional liberties.

Contrary to some statements made in July by the left, we have a great record when it comes to the budgets, to cutting the deficit and to reforming entitlements responsibly and without leaving people to die in the streets in the process. Fiscal Responsibility doesn't have to mean austerity and we accomplished great strides in things like infrastructure and healthcare while making sure they were funded. If Ike could fund the highways and FDR could fund social security, there is no excuse for deficit funding any long term program or entitlement.

Regional action is vitally important and it is the key to forming a big tent. A good example would be regional action on mid and late term abortion. We should fight to protect these and yet at the same time prevent or oppose attempts to undo them from on high.

At the same time regions should prioritize education and infrastructure with an emphasis on building stronger and healthier communities. This achieves a conservative objective of creating stable communities and families, but it is most definitely an area where we can unite a broad coalition of people and appeal to swing voters. The federal government can then help by providing resources and other assistance to them.


In order to win in Atlasia again, we have to redefine Conservatism on this basis and break the intrusion of RL politics into the game along with its destructive behavior and penchant for sowing discord and division among us.

With that foundation for moving forward, we then need to recruit and engage people into our political culture. We need to do better at achieving results and making people aware of those results so that they have a reason to engage, turnout and participate more than what we have seen in recent times. Lastly, we need to reach out and convince people that we are not a bunch of crazy , right-wing extremists. We are a reasonable center-right that 1) truly wants to a game that welcomes all regardless of their beliefs, 2) wants competence and activity in government and 3) pursues fiscal sanity and responsible reforms to strength our communities and 3) will protect our constitution and the rights that it enshrines. This is the only path to victory and it is by embracing a new our principles and working to represent the larger base possible.

I invite every single Federalist, and every non-Federalist who is interested in making this a reality, to step up and let us work together, collaborate and with effort achieve victory together.

It's time to get up and start moving forward again!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Appointments
Young Texan is hereby dismissed from the position of "Co-Chair".

The position of "co-chair" as an appointed position is hereby abolished.


LousivilleThunder is appointed to the position of Secretary.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Further Changes

The position of Secretary shall be responsible for maintaining election result trackers internally and calculating convention city votes

Recruitment Coordinator - Responsibilities shall be merged into the position of Vice Chair.

Outreach Coordinator - Reestablished with emphasis on messaging, base broadening and swing voter outreach.

Vice Chair Emeritus - Created for former vice Chairs to continue to provide services to the party and hopefully keep some of them from Fed Leadership > Leftwing express lane.

Encke is hereby named Vice Chair Emeritus

[FairBol]

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you'll get what you need. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfYcQ_r_x8

EXACTLY.  Words that I live by. 

[lfromnj]

Pretty sure I do it here but resigning the office of vice chair in disgrace of my failure to even hit 40% this weekend.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Why can't you people ever let me just enjoy the slightest bit of joy after any single damn election FOR THE PAST 10 FING YEARS


From the drama, the scandals, DFW going nuts, to LFromNJ's feelings of inadequacy or someone threatening to split, peal off or otherwise damage my party.

I cannot remember a single damn election where I could just enjoy the aftermath.

Furthermore 99% of all the people I have ever worked with in this game is either gone, or on the left. There is no way this course of action would not bother me deeply or not bring this omnipresent reality front and center.

All I want is to work together as group, achieve the best result possible and move on to the next election. It isn't that difficult.

[Former President tack50]

I now wonder what went wromg in Fedcord and the Fed HQ yesterday night lol