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I don't agree with this post but I don't really think it demonstrates a poor enough understanding of the world to belong here either.

I really don't know if this is in jest or not...

It has to be a joke. A pretty funny one, I might add.

I generally assume that those with around 100 posts and make terrible threads are not joking and are in fact dullards.

This one is very obvious and most of the dullards around here have 10000+ posts.

Glad you're here for posts like these, politicus.

The complete disregard for objective historical analysis in this post makes my head hurt.

What's wrong with that?

Sol is a homophone.

Of course! I should've suspected...Sol....Soul.....it all makes sense now.

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That attitude has killed far too many in the gay community.

No, that attitude did not kill people. The fact that the gay community was driven underground contributed to the perfect storm that killed so many people.

Well, yeah, obviously the historical stigmatization of the gay community hasn't helped either. But I don't think that risky behaviors like unprotected sex or smoking should be tolerated either. It's especially galling to hear such attitudes coming from a member of a community which has been so disproportionately harmed.

First of all lol @ homophone.

Second, I'm guessing bareback=unprotected sex?  In that case I agree with Sol.

Third, when I first saw the thread about Lincoln I thought it was about Lincoln Chafee

I mean, if they're both consenting what's the problem? It's not like he has AIDS and wouldn't mention it because he likes it raw.

Actually that does happen.

I'm aware of that. I'm not sure how it applies to Del Tachi.

Ah, I see.

I guess that fits in here? Especially that first sentence...

While you may think it wrong to believe that life begins at conception, for those who hold that belief, libertarianism would logically lead to being against abortion at any stage of development.  While I don't have that particular belief, I don't think it is absurd, so I can't see where that post belongs here.

Still, it is widely known that pro-life positions are not particularly what one would consider as "libertarian", rather have libertarians been associated with the complete opposite of pro-life positions. 
As such, yes, I find it absurd that one would make that claim.

Almost anything can be framed in a freedom/anti-freedom light depending on the angle.  I'm sure a pro-life libertarian would say "how dare the government step in and let a fetus's parents deny it life and liberty!"

The last part of this is not absurd. It's the truth.

Krazen's posts are just so insightful and germane!

It's almost as if you seek out his posts...

Er, that thread has had a lot of updates over the past day or two. Forgive me for noticing that he had one of the latest posts :P

Given that in context he clearly means 'can' in the sense of 'should':

My jokes aside, I really like Miles but yes, he's clearly obsessed with krazen.

Referring to the Dixiecrats

Wow.

That's quite the impressive post. Basically every single sentence is wrong (well perhaps not the last one but even that's an extreme oversimplification.)

The only reason this doesn't give NewYorkExpress' Louisiana runoff prediction a challenge for "dumbest electoral prediction of 2014" is that it's about a purely hypothetical election:

Jesus Christ.

Seeing how the OH Dems performed in 2014, I wouldn't be surprised if they did nominate such a candidate....

At the risk of sounding like some sort of moderate hero version of Snowstalker, Cory is right that most of what Kissinger did was more or less successful in advancing American geopolitical goals during the Cold War, but that very fact should incline us to become a bit more critical or at least skeptical of American geopolitical goals during the Cold War.

Were you sure to ask Seth MacFarlane for his opinion before you deemed the post bad?

Emphasis on the truly ridiculous part.

Lest we forget, NYE's political analysis posts are even worse than his RSS feed ones. Let's not forget that Landrieu was only going to win Orleans Parish...

I preferred the one where he said that Greece should get the World Cup.

This is truly sad.

Cory's post wasn't particularly bad. Sure, we shouldn't have been in Vietnam in the first place, but just because one opposes the war doesn't mean one should attack the strategies employed.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=204784.0

You know a thread is bad when Snowstalker is the voice of reason.

It's not a bad post aside from the bolded part, but that alone calls for inclusion here.

Where is this poll of yours that you were bragging would make me froth at the mouth, BRTD?

#goldenoldies

Good job Oldies, your contribution to the theatre is duly noted.

Our resident racial historian speaks on #BlackLivesMatter and somehow manages to be both paternalistic and incredibly insensitive.

It was still stupid and unfunny.

I found it witty and hilarious

Laugh or cry?

[[in reference to antonio's signature (http://i.imgur.com/Vxquuae.jpg)]]


i mean i'm not at all a fan of ch but come on

Because jokes are usually funny.

orange you glad I didn't say banana.

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I think you meant to put that in the good post gallery.

http://spartacus-educational.com/USAhoffa.htm

Just an utter garbage post

I was more emphasizing how terrible "I'll vote for the Michigan Republican & Neo-Liberal Italian over an ex-Democrat Southron and a woman." is.

You clearly don't get Cathcon's sense of humor yet.

A post using "humor" can also be bad.

So you're a social darwinist too?

^ Why has this guy not been banned yet?

Indeed. In particular, characterizing New Jersey that way is certainly a new idea.

The bold parts are what make it absurd, there's ways he could've worded it that would've made some sense but describing Christianity as a "weird anti-sex cult" is really dumb reddit-esque nonsense.

While not a part of conventional Christianity, the Gnostic faction of early Christianity certainly was a weird anti-sex cult and even conventional Christianity has tended to revere perpetual celibacy.

Truth hurts, I know.

I find most people who worry about the debt like to use the household analogy so I've since turned it to prove how even in household analogy, worrying about the debt is stupid.

It doesn't change the fact that worrying about the debt is stupid.

I was parodying a Wulfric quote on the irc

Ah. Consider that un-deluged.

I'm kind of astonished no one has put this here already:


Bolded the extra absurdity.

New Orleans is 3 hours from Pensacola, though?

edited to give proper emphasis

Google Maps says 2 hours 58 minutes.

Yes. but Atlanta is about 5 hours and Miami is 10 hours from Pensacola.  It would make much more sense if the Florida panhandle were part of Alabama.

If you get zero traffic the entire way. And it's not on the gulf. And it isn't like a 3 hour trip is nearby anyway.

Actually, I never said that. I said that I agree with parts of both parties' agendas, and some other people tried to assign a 55%/45% balance (some gave the edge to the republicans, others to the democrats) to it. I never said such percentages were wrong, but I also never explicitly said they were accurate.

In Bushie's defense, in Oklahoma and New Mexico, 3 hours is a sensible distance between two cities.

^Could you both leave, or is that asking too much?

Yes it is. Humor can be good or bad. It is subjective which is which, but so is everything that is put in the Deluge. I would prefer Cathcon to leave (or stop using "humor"), you would prefer me to leave. Neither is gong to happen. So just use the ignore button.

Glad to know that New Orleans isn't as far from Tally as I thought it was; I might be making a trip next year :P.

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This is disgusting.

smoltchanov is one of the worst posters on the forum. He isn't covered much because his content is limited to a couple of boards, of which people like NYE or OC dominate.

No, this is merely something you disagree with. A Serbian Film is disgusting; the sight of an open wound in one's shoulder is disgusting; the sight of the bodies of Holocaust victims piled up is disgusting. This, on the other hand, is a piece of text on the internet that you disagree with. Control your hyperbole.

Yes, smolchanov's awfulness is amazingly underrated.

It's like stepping into a time machine and going back to 2004.

At least his posts make for interesting reading. What are your contributions to the forum again besides insulting people?

Considering what the thread title was...

That is actually one of the most intelligent things I have ever seen Bushie post, and it indicates that at least one poster here understands how scientific knowledge works.  Scientific knowledge is testable and tentative.  It is a great frustration among scientists everywhere that the public understands the dogma of science so little.  The fact that at least one non-scientist on this forum understands this is refreshing.  At least to me it is.

Facts are data.  Data are observations.  Observations are not rules.  Rules are laws, empirically-determined and reproducible.  The conclusions drawn from those observations--observables, data, and facts--and the models which are built upon those analyses, are always subject to future debate.  Understanding this is central to understanding how scientific knowledge is established.  (And how it is overturned, which happens frequently.)

Until just now, I've never posted in this particular thread, but memphis' inclusion of Bushie's insightful post definitely merits comment.  I'm not picking on memphis in particular, because I think his misgivings are common.  We need to do a much better job at explaining how scientific facts are collected and how scientific knowledge is established.  Bushie seems to have paid attention to his instructors at least once.

Within the context of where the quote came from, it is, indeed, an absurd, ignorant statement.

No, it makes full sense that someone can find something helpful to how they feel that they don't have a scientific explanation for. The idea that someone might find Sprite easier on a nauseous stomach than water isn't some outlandish idea anyway. If only Bushie knew a little science though, he might realize that King's statement that Sprite is functionally equivalent to Coke isn't accurate anyway, given things like caffeine and pH (Sprite is actually less acidic than Coke, not more).

Context.

That's interesting.  I didn't know that.  Out of curiosity, I just determined the pH of a coca-cola (12 ounce can) with a calibrated pH meter in my office and I measured 2.51 for Coca Cola.  I also tested Mountain Dew (3.29) and Fanta Orange Soda (2.88).  I don't have a sprite handy but I may bring some tomorrow and measure it.  Caffeine is alkaline and therefore will raise the pH, yet MD is less acidic than CC, even though it has more caffeine.  I suppose that the amount of phosphoric acid in CC is higher.  It is probably the case that Sprite has less phosphoric acid as well, if it has a higher pH, since it has no caffeine to offset.

One of the newbies (who seems to be racking up a lot of posts very quickly) said that my inability to see something wrong with lame duck appointments (which wasn't even actually my argument) says everything people need to know about my "ethics." Apparently, that's the great moral question in Canada!

He is the guy who thinks America is some type of Parliamentary system where the entire Senate is appointed to the cabinet.

Haha, yea, I feel like that sometimes too.

What a reasonable moderate!

The whole post needs to be included.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=207084.0

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The first sentence was okay, albeit mundane.  The second was odd, tho not deluge-worthy.  The rest ...

Who named this after me again? >:(

Several American posters (Simfan the chief among them) try to pepper their posts with British slang and/or spelling conventions and it's really cringeworthy.

Context:

yeah this is one of the worst tropes

Check this out:




Flip-flopping Bushie.

Less than twenty-seven hours apart. Incredible.

Bushie's claims that the Antichrist will be anti-Christian and will be extremely against Israel AND that Vladimir Putin might be the Antichrist also belong here for the extreme ignorance it displays of geopolitical politics. That's almost as amusing as that Tea Party lunatic who ran in the DFL primary in 2012 just to run against Keith Ellison and ran a campaign both based around attacking Keith Ellison for supporting gay marriage AND simultaneously claiming that Keith Ellison supports establishing Sharia law. (Emphasis on the "almost" because there is really no way you can get any more idiotically amusing than that...aside from possibly the comment I saw on Free Republic after John Paul Stevens announced his retirement that Obama's Supreme Court nominee would most likely be all of a Marxist, a radical Islamist AND a homosexual.)

Talking about the modern day state of Austria defeating the Ottoman Empire makes even less sense than if someone replied to an "Opinion of Germany" poll "HC because of the Nazis"

Wow. Just wow.

I'd like for my belief to be wrong, but when it comes to American comedy, it simply isn't. Non-white American comics are expected to joke about their race. That's distracting for a news show.

two racial slurs, one post

At least heatmaster is learning how to write sentences less than 100 words long.

I don't even know where the the hell to begin with this one.

First it assumes a lack of culture, which considering only atheists and Jews have us beat when it comes to knowledge other religious cultures.

Secondly, it ignores a helluva lot other aspects,...ya' know like the fact that we banded together and did more for Katrina than the Government itself did. Or that we're excellent at charitable things in general. Such as the storehouses we tend to have.


And to doubt the motives of this one, is whiny cynicism at best...bigotry at worst.

It's incredible that posts like this one even EXIST.

For a guy who constantly complains about bigotry, that was rather bigoted on the part of DeadFlag.

But not really surprising.  There is no requirement that somebody who complains about bigotry should not themselves be a bigot.  Hell, in a lot of cases it's the opposite.  The expectation, especially on this forum, that people are principled anti-bigots is a laughable one.

You obviously haven't been here too long.  Posts like these are more par the course than not.

Obviously it isn't justified, but a lot of the anti-Mormonism is more out of pure ignorance of what you guys actually believe/practice now days.  Of course, this isn't much different than many people who think Islam is a naturally reactionary religiono that teaches it's followers to make women slaves or to kill all infidels.  Truth is, most monotheistic religious traditions that extend back to the 19th century or before are going to have a pretty controversial past and even some crazy things found in their texts.  It is hardly fair to conclude that a practicioner of said religion is a retrobate just because a few centuries ago they were doing crazy sh*t.

Just my two cents.

I've said a few times now that regardless of what one thinks about the way Mormons tend to get involved in politics--in terms of policy, in terms of strategy, whatever--the fact that they do have a strong tradition of dynamic, on-the-ground political involvement, and in most cases seem sincere and idealistic about it, is itself worthy of admiration. The same is true of black churches.

Oh I've seen plenty of crazier stuff than this, but most of it has had decent points. It's amazing that those exist too.

But this is pointless, hypocritical, bigoted, and myopic without any merit.

Indeed.

Can we put maps in this thread? Cuz this is just horrendous. What's in that Michigan water? Did Detroit pollute the Great Lakes that badly?

Context: Walker vs. Hillary

does not belong here. hifly is probably the most qualified expert on trash we have.

so it's irony?

There is nothing admirable about religion muscling its way into our civic institutions. It's a very problematic thing, especially coming from "sincere and idealistic" people.

Does that include Martin Luther King Jr. [1]?

[1] Yes I realize he did not believe in the divinity of Jesus at least when he wrote his thesis, but nonetheless he mobilized the black church for political action as well as his own moral authority as a minister.

i'm saying hifly is trashy enough that we can probably take his word for it.

The major difference is that MLK and the civil rights movement, while structurally organized and inspired by the faith of black churches, didn't try to implement the theology of the AME Church or any other denomination into law. Simply characterizing a basic belief in the rights of African-Americans to dignity and equality as part of those church's "theology" is  VASTLY overbroad.

3edgy5me

In all seriousness though this idea that a lot of liberals have that people should somehow check their beliefs at the door when engaging in policy discussions or should avoid making use of the institutions that represent their beliefs for political mobilization is distinctly, uh, odd.

Context required:

Normally I'd be offended but since it's you, the poster with a poorer understanding of religion and sociology than some precocious ten-year-olds, the poster who claims that I don't bother to constructively respond to his arguments...I'm laughing.

(No but seriously the idea that you very heavily implied that it's somehow preferable that people in public life who don't share your religious beliefs be craven, cynical, and dishonest rather than sincere and idealistic is the quintessence of 3edgy5me and it's actually kind of adorable.)

Multiple attempts at failed snark her, tho the last is particularly absurd:

no attempt at snark was made; all of my statements were 100% factual :3

And the religious bigotry continues.

What is bigoted about this post? The cult remark?

There is evidence to support that claim: Mormonism does not fare well under the BITE model or Robert Lifton's 'Thought Reform' criteria. It doesn't help that Mormonism's foundations, and it's significant claims relative to other branches of Christianity, become lot more dubious when placed under critical examination; nor does it enjoy the obfuscation by the weight of history that Islam, Judaism, and other mainline branches of Christianity enjoy.

Moreover, I can critique its political structure, or it's belief systems, without passing judgement onto the average believer.

Wow, this is undoubtedly one of the worst posts I've ever seen.

Agreed.

Especially the third part.

I like how 90% of that had nothing to do with what was actually written in the Bible.

Hasn't Bushie said within the past several weeks that he likes or at least is more or less okay with the Holy Father? Also, Macedonia 'including' Greece would be news to the Greeks. And the Macedonians.

If we're going to maintain any pretense of discussing important matters of public interest, we should at least possess some academic and linguistic integrity. The lack of formality in discourse on this forum is absolutely sickening. Even Bushie has the capacity to use full sentences.

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Our resident psychopath strikes again, I see.

The ramifications of being falsely accused are severe and under-discussed, but Jesus, what a terrible post. Might be the worst post of the year.

Wow.

It's one of the worst I've seen here.  The last one that matched this level of callousness is... well it was Cory and his opinion of Madeline... and before that it was Cory's thoughts on AIDS.  

Someone has to set the bar, I suppose.

I agree with Cathcon on something! :D

Jesus Christ, just ban this guy already.

No no no.  There are good reasons we need people like Cory to be speaking. 

Yeah, people have a right to hold terrible opinions. We call it freedom of speech.

It makes me look good, for example :P.

Cory makes Ann Coulter look like Ghandi.

This is a private forum. Cory is a cancer. He needs to be eliminated.

I understand it is a private forum, but that is a decision for Leip and Leip alone to decide on. And judging by what I know of Mr. Leip, I don't see him banning Cory over this. It took years for Opebo to be banned, keep in mind.

Sound like you're throwing a bro under the prude brood bus there HockeyDude. :(

My girlfriend doesn't care for Madeline either.  She actually bothers to hide the book to avoid having to read it to her little girl.  (Yes, I get that you almost certainly meant a different Madeline than the fictional character from children's stories.)

Yes, it's a private forum operated by someone who would not approve of your post calling someone a cancer and calling for their elimination.

C'mon dude, you gotta give me more credit than thinking I'm a Cory fan.  That said, I don't think he should be banned.  Like I pointed out... the low bar needs to be set, too.

Regardless of what Dave Leip thinks and what the limitations (or lack thereof) are regarding "free speech", it is in my humble opinion that Cory has been polluting this forum with posts that are worse than trolling because the damage he's doing is inadvertent and it's intellectually grounded. He's clearly a smart person with some horrible, horrible views. Getting rid of trolls is easy, they come and go and we all get riled up about them in the moment, but people like Cory get to stay because he's not technically doing anything ban-worthy. He's still causing the same amount of trouble and he's still making us all dumber for the experience. The ignore button simply isn't enough to solve the problem.

If krazen isn't banned, I don't see why Cory should be.

I would fully support krazen's banning as well. He's the right-wing version of Cory. The problem is that people will get up in arms because the "you can't ban people just because you disagree with them" argument always wins out in the end.

Actually, that is decision for Nym, since Dave delegated his authority to him.

Well, the moral lines of the anti-pruders are so far away from mine that it's hard to tell. If supporting pedophilia is super cool and sexual harassment is just dandy, why wouldn't Cory be one of the dudes? Perhaps it is the spectre of political correctness gone mad - the Feminazis are taking over everything these days. RIP masculinity.

Being a fan of opebo =\= supporting pedophilia.  opebo is not a pedophile.  Nice try.

And must we go over our differing opinions of what constitutes sexual harassment again? 

No, Cory is not "one of the dudes".

Opebo supported pedophilia with great enthusiasm even if he wasn't one himself. So apparently that is super cool.

Anyway, good to know that there are limits for some of you!

The language might be extreme but I don't see how that's absurd, ignorant or bad.

1) The first part is the sort of cynicism I wanted to put in the Willips Brighton Asylum of Gross, Cruel and Insensitive Remarks, but that has been merged by some anonymous mod that apparently thought this would cover those things, so putting it here.

2) The last part about Ukraine is either ignorant or an outright lie (=bad).

I have a great solution that I'm sure Wulfric will enjoy. Simply build half a pipeline from Alberta and end it at some arbitrary position in the Midwest. Another win for moderate solutions!

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oh christ

Even I thought that was absurd.

it's absurd that you'd put swe's post of your absurd post in here

Context:


EDIT: Had to add WillipsBrighton misunderstanding what an intersectionalist is and whining about white people being discriminated against:

Yes, liberal is a not an appropriate term for my beliefs.

It's times like this when I wonder when you're going to just stop posting.

isn't that just all the time though?

We've reached peak Atlas with this thread.

I guess they're just Jew-ish

To quote Tsar Nicholas II's last words: "AYY LMAO"

The idea of "natural rights" is stupid, Snowstalker is correct on that count.

Sure, but the context of the thread makes all his philosophical tirade completely unwarranted and pointless.

This.

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Here is another gem:

Also, why are you guys posting CJK posts here? It's clear he's a bad troll.

Posted for answering a complex question with a simple yes/no.

Reported for trolling

There's nothing complex about it, you see, once you look past the hysteria.

Simfan, if you read my post, I would hope you'd realize it was sarcastic. I'm not actually an opponent of nuclear power. It was an attempt to willfully misconstrue the meaning of the term "nuclear Iran" as an Iran that uses nuclear power (as opposed to the common definition of an Iran with nuclear weapons).

I suppose I can see it, but if so it's very dry.

That is ridiculous given accidents like Fukushima and the consequences if things go wrong. Nuclear energy is needed to reduce global warming, but saying it isn't dangerous in any way is frivolous.

Anyway, what do you hope to accomplish with the "no" answers? (you use them a lot). They just make you appear like an arrogant prick.

Misanthropic garbage.

Still, hard to disagree with.

Not if you don't regard the human race as vermin.

^^^^^

I don't know how the idea that we should cull 7.115 billion people is hard to disagree with.

What he said was that the problem would not be there if we were fewer people, not that we should "cull" the human population or that humans are vermin.

Tender was being hyperbolic, but not wrong.

I think comparing humans to rats is always distasteful, because of the obvious implications running from that. Whatever your thoughts may be on the earth's carrying capacity and Malthusian notions, I Find the rat comparison deeply troubling.

I would agree with tender more if he substituted the words 'reproducing like rats' with 'consuming so much'.

More people = more consumption.

Everybody wants a cosumerist lifestyle. That will be extremely hard to change - probably impossible.

Enough food is produced for everyone in the world to eat 4,000 calories every day, with similar ratios existing for other needs and wants. Fossil fuels need to be phased out of course.

>Implying that's enough for Americans

In a BRTD thread that actually poses an interesting question (why most Western converts to Islam are women):

That whole thread belongs here, really, as one would expect from a group of white males pontificating on a subject like that.

.....about a guy who basically got kicked as PM for being an arsehole.

Comrade TNF shows us that we can, indeed, fight the SJW menace without sounding like neckbeards.

There are exceptions to the rule, as proven by R2's nasty insinuations that needed to be called out.

Also the implication that PC is always some kind of protector and doesn't itself carry nasty implication for those it tries to protect. Or worse, it diverts away from an even bigger issue by setting up a semantics debate.

That and that non-PC accusations are used to shut-down, and not just by liberals

By Jove, the unwavering faith in PC/non-PC without any introspection is sickening. It too must be balanced out depending on context.

With a couple of exceptions, the morons on his page are truly unbelievable.

Absurd defence of a group that eradicated so many groups based on pseudo-religious ideological hatred and obviously hyperbolic regarding the Zionists.

For this, directly in the deluge.

u mad

I didn't know that all the many millions of people killed by the USSR were rich. Ingermanland and Kazakhstan must have been the Switzerlands of their time!

No.  You share the same sentiments and thus defend him.  But it is these innocuous 'facts' that begin to manifest tentacles of untruth that poison your mind.  

How about let's focus on making the world sustainable and livable for 10 billion humans or even 50 billion one day.

If you reduce the population 99% you lose more than 99% of your creative power as a society.  When one generation produces only 40% of their number you can expect a massive disruption.  Either a rise in xenophobia or a scramble to hold up the legs on a collapsing system.

I expect small, insignificant things from Europe in the next 30 years unless there is full out war.

Edit...I should point out that if there is an integration and assimilation of immigrants then things will be better.

The problem with the increased quality of life with a smaller population argument...is without a rapid die off of a big portion of the population... You will never see better quality of life...but worsening quality of life as you must support a big elderly population with dwindling labor forces.

Eventually things will get better..but not until after a very long, drawn out, unprecedented economic depression that will ruin our psyches.

Thanks for posting directly into the deluge. Bolded thing is the most bizarre, but a lot of the rest is out there in cuckoo land too.

Lol...you're really in a bubble of eco delusion, lady.

My argument is quite rational.  Increasing quality of life can be achieved by technological innovation and/or economic growth.

Economic growth is achieved either by productivity increases or population growth.

The major driver for increasing quality of life can then be partially explained by a growing population given ample access to required resources.

Technology and innovation are making resource use far more efficient.

Labor force growth is negative in nearly all of Europe now.  That is a drag on economic growth, which puts a drag on quality of life.  Both productivity growth and population growth have slowed or reversed.  So economic growth isn't a thing anymore in Europe.  Only technology advances improve quality of life now.  If you can afford them with your dwindling resources as returns on economic activity dwindle.

The state of small rural towns in rural Germany today is a preview of what all but the most important cities will be in 20 years without major restructuring...and where theyll get the money to pay for that restructuring, no one knows which is why the rural towns have been allowed to decay rather than save some of them.

Empty shop windows...empty apartment buildings...decaying infrastructure...a patchwork of teardowns since people tend not to die in a geographically orderly fashion...

Communities will just revert backwards to less developed states.

You can deny it..but your future isn't very bright in Europe and its attitudes like yours that brought it on.

I'm sorry, IceSpear, but your demands to exclude parts of the democratic field from the polling are bad, bad, bad:

Why? At this stage, we should only include those who are at least thinking of running.

That post does belong here but only because EVERY post with the stupid ">" thing does.

Yeah, Warren isn't running. Cuomo knows he has no base of support. Gillibrand will never run against Hillary.

Low hanging fruit this one, but nonetheless relevant.

White middle-class guy thinks the cops only arrest people who are mean to them. Sounds like the title for an Onion article.

Easily one of the most intelligent and logical left-wing posts I've ever seen.

#MinnesotaNiceTrueLeftist

The throll of throlls

Well its true that the last two have rather... implicitly negative connotations, but you know, such is life.

lolcassius

Is Cassius like a parody of conservatism or something?

I've never seen someone call themselves a corporatist, ever.

Can baldface lies go here?

he admitted he can't stick to a diet, that's 95% more truthy than anything he's said on that subject before

Yes. Unbelievably stupid post.

"baron wastelands" :P

At least we see the main way forum leftists argue: insults.