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Title: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 11, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
The Allende/Fezzy's whinge against people NOT RESPECTING 9/11 OMG thread got me thinking - we need the greatest Nixon Quote thread (perhaps we can turn into a survivor?). This has to be the greatest quote by Nixon, not about Nixon or else this thread would nothing but five pages of Hunter S. Thompson with that line about the only thing making Nixon happy seeing a paraplegic try to vote democratic but unable to reach the level would win (though HSTs comments on Nixon's funeral might give that a close running).

Anyway, the Gully Foyle backed nominations are (all taken from Wikiquote - some are responses to Kissinger - Kissinger bits in Italic. Nixon in Normal Font):

1:
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The only place where you and I disagree ... is with regard to the bombing. You're so goddamned concerned about civilians and I don't give a damn. I don't care.
Kissinger: I'm concerned about the civilians because I don't want the world to be mobilized against you as a butcher.


2.
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As long as I'm sitting in the chair, there's not going to be any Jew appointed to that court. [No Jew] can be right on the criminal-law issue.

3.
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Well, when the President does it that means that it is not illegal.

4.
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So few of those who engage in espionage — are Negroes. ... In fact, very few of them become Communists. If they do, they like, they get into Angela Davis — they're more the capitalist type. And they throw bombs and this and that. But the Negroes. — have you ever noticed? ... Any Negro spies?

5.
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You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana are Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists. 

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

These are from the tape transcripts:
7.
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"Archie's Guys." Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter. The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy. He's obviously queer — wears an ascot — but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar.
I don't mind the homosexuality. I understand it. Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddammit, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates.

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I have the greatest affection for them but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. They aren't. You know it, too. The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like.

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You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France.
Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, [Attorney General John] Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this.

10.
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There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.

For more: http://nixontapes.org/origin.htm

EDIT: Changed #6.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on September 11, 2009, 07:16:17 PM
Option 7 should be eliminated first. I can't  can believe he said that.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on September 11, 2009, 07:17:25 PM
The Allende/Fezzy's whinge against people NOT RESPECTING 9/11 OMG

::)


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 11, 2009, 07:19:29 PM
Three, because it's entirely true.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on September 11, 2009, 07:25:04 PM
Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

Write-in campaign!

EDIT: No need for write-in. Made an earlier mistake and repeated one of the quotes - it is now Option Six. I'm voting for it.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 11, 2009, 07:43:31 PM
Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

Write-in campaign!

Brilliant. The man was clearly insane.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on September 11, 2009, 07:49:27 PM
It makes me warm and fuzzy inside to know that this man will always be remembered as one of the most disgracful and worst presidents that America has ever had. 

He was truly a horrible man, when he makes me feel that maybe Dubaya wasn't that bad after all, just by reading a few quotes.



Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 11, 2009, 07:49:48 PM
Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

Write-in campaign!

Brilliant. The man was clearly [b]insane.[/b] brilliant.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: opebo on September 12, 2009, 07:22:14 AM
Just an american fascist who spoke his mind - in other words a kind of everyman.  But I will say he was a very amusing personality.  I doubt Hitler was ever this funny.

I voted number five - they're all good, but saying 'I suppose it is because most've them are psychiatrists' is just hilarious.  Its like Woody Allen and Herman Goering all wrapped up in one twitchy package.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 12, 2009, 07:31:31 AM
Just an american fascist who spoke his mind - in other words a kind of everyman.  But I will say he was a very amusing personality.  I doubt Hitler was ever this funny.

I voted number five - they're all good, but saying 'I suppose it is because most've them are psychiatrists' is just hilarious.  Its like Woody Allen and Herman Goering all wrapped up in one twitchy package.

I bet you would have said them all.........;)


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: pogo stick on September 12, 2009, 04:30:48 PM
Option 3.

Because it proved how Nixon's corruption blinded  him.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on September 12, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Option 8


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on September 12, 2009, 04:46:31 PM
Changing mine to Option 10.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: 12th Doctor on September 12, 2009, 04:49:04 PM
Option 6!


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2009, 05:00:45 PM
I happen to like all of them.

I also think I might have said something similar to each of them of some point in my life, but I was never paranoid enough to record such statements for posterity.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Frodo on September 12, 2009, 05:47:19 PM
Option 3 -it encapsulates the man perfectly. 


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 12, 2009, 07:12:36 PM
Certainly 3. This quote seems almost prescient after W. and Cheney's co-presidency.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: opebo on September 15, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
I happen to like all of them.

I also think I might have said something similar to each of them of some point in my life...

Do you embrace your racism, homophobia, and antisemitism, or do you regret?


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: RosettaStoned on September 15, 2009, 12:29:11 PM
Option 10!


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 09, 2013, 07:03:03 PM
Bump in honour (?) of the man's centenary.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on January 09, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
Of all the threads I've created in this forum, I think this is the one I'm proudest of.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 10, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
As horrendous as they might be, I suspect that quotes 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are relatively par for the course for a conservative man born in the 1910s.

3 pretty much epitomizes Nixon's idea of power. But I'd say the scariest ones are by far 1 and 6. This man was clearly a sociopath.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 10, 2013, 07:15:30 PM
Probably 3--especially when Frost asks him "By definiton?", and he responds, "Exactly."  And Nixon was a strong supporter of civil rights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAlZHfaksQM), so I can't believe that he ever said some of those things.  And remember that he was a Quaker, and they have a long history of fighting for civil rights.  So even if some of his personal views were bigoted (and given the context of the time, those quotes hardly prove that), he wasn't blinded by it in his political life.

Personally, what may be my very favorite Nixon quote wasn't on here:
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I would have made a good pope.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: © tweed on January 10, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
I voted 5 because it is up the alley of some of my main autobiographical interests (marijuana, psychotherapy, Jewish background).  Nixon reads more like a Russian novel character than I'd imagined.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Indy Texas on January 10, 2013, 11:27:03 PM
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There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.

I believe this comment would make Nixon a "liberal" in the modern GOP's eyes. After all, what kind of degenerate wants to allow abortion in cases of rape?


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on August 22, 2013, 08:53:44 PM
More quotes have been uncovered... and guess what (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/some-new-comments-richard-nixon-subject-jews-and-blacks/68595/)

Yes. It's doesn't look good for Nixon revisionism. Which should be condemned to hell fire at once.

Quote 11
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In an April 18, 1973 phone call with Spiro Agnew, Nixon said Jews were holding American foreign policy "hostage to Jewish emigration from the Soviet Union." He added, "Some of the Jews picket can raise hell, but the American people are not going to let them destroy our foreign policy — never!" This was a subject to which Nixon repeatedly returned.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on February 16, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
In light of some recent opinions I'm bumping this thread yet again.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on February 16, 2014, 08:39:29 PM
Write-in:

Quote from: Richard Nixon
I have often thought that if there had been a good rap group around in those days, I might have chosen a career in music instead of politics.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 16, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
To be fair, this is legitimately hilarious:

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What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists.


Title: Re: Favourite Nixon Quote?
Post by: TTS1996 on February 17, 2014, 10:28:02 AM
7 and 9 together, and all of the rest of that tape. Mad as a box of frogs, yet so good. The best President the United States ever had; so right, so true, so unafraid to pay lip service to bulls***.