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Forum Community => Election and History Games => Topic started by: Dr. Cynic on October 09, 2009, 01:34:26 AM



Title: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on October 09, 2009, 01:34:26 AM
It seems as though there are always those interested in starting a game and then interest tapers off... Well, I'm thinking of starting a game. It's called the Political Cloak Room.

I'd like it to run as a historical political simulation/roleplaying game. I'd like it to take place in certain historical eras, and each player will be in charge of a few different historical characters of their choosing. I'd like it to include the President of the timeframe and historical Senators. (For the purposes of difficulty, I thought to leave out the House)

I'd like to know if anyone would be up for playing it as it would operate much like the real Senate and White House would. With meetings, conferences and private shady dealings.

Lemme know if anyone's interested and what era you might like it to be.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 22, 2009, 06:12:45 PM
I'm totally in!  Anything 20th Century would be awesome.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Lahbas on November 05, 2009, 09:53:09 PM
All In!


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Sewer on November 05, 2009, 09:54:18 PM
i play


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 05, 2009, 09:55:09 PM
It sounds neat.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 07, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
Cool. If you can recruit some more people and possibly discuss what eras you'd like to use, I'd be all up for keeping it going.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Bacon King on November 11, 2009, 05:09:08 AM
okay!


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Vepres on November 11, 2009, 11:07:03 AM
I'm interested.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 11, 2009, 11:20:53 AM
I'l love to do this, maybe pick a starting year and a character and then try to get elected as president.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 17, 2009, 05:06:15 PM
Well, we could elect a President based on candidates who we wanted.

I'm leaning towards starting in 1960. Which would make it the 86th Congress. The list of them can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86th_United_States_Congress. President Eisenhower is an unplayable character as the election is coming up. John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon are playable, but have already been nominated for the Presidency. Anyone choosing them may also play as their running mates (And may choose whomever they desire. If that character is already chosen, the running mate will not be under their control).

First thing first. If you're not the President, then you can be any member of the Senate or Cabinet. Everyone can pick up to five characters, excepting the President. Game Manager will report the news. They will basically be the Walter Cronkite's of the world. Those in the Senate, etc. will be responsible for doing the legislative thing, you know the drill there. Anyone from that era is available. Let's start simple and pick our characters. Everyone just list your preferences up to five based on all officeholders in 1960. in the Legislative or Executive Branches. Here are mine:

1. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (You didn't think I was gonna let him go elsewhere :P)
2. Joseph Clark (D-PA)
3. Jennings Randolph (D-WV)
4. Clifford Case (R-NJ)
5. William Proxmire (D-WI)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 17, 2009, 08:03:35 PM
1. Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)
2. Frank Church (D-ID)
3. Ernest Gruening (D-AK)
4. Mike Mansfield (D-MT)
5. Clair Engle (D-CA)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Smid on November 17, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
I wasn't going to participate because I wasn't sure if I'd have enough time, but I might as well give it a go.

I don't know much about any of the Senators back then, but read over the bios on Wikipedia. The two I liked most were:

1. Roman Lee Hruska (R-NE) and
2. Everett Dirksen (R-IL)

followed by:

3. Bourke B Hickenlooper (R-IA) - half for the name!

The final two I don't mind the sound of, but don't know much about them:

4. John J. Williams (R-DE) and
5. Carl Curtis (R-NE).


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 17, 2009, 08:28:04 PM
1.  Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
2.  Richard B. Russell (D-GA)
3.  James Eastland (D-MS)
4.  Harry F. Byrd Sr. (D-VA)
5.  John Stennis (D-MS)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 18, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
Everyone who has made their picks so far are now controlling those particular players. Once we get some more in, we will begin with the basic foundation of the game.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Bacon King on November 18, 2009, 01:28:58 PM
Ah, hell. I'll roleplay me some Southern Dixiecrats.

1. Strom Thurmond (D-SC)
2. J. William Fulbright (D-AR)
3. George Smathers (D-FL)
4. Allen Ellender (D-LA)
5. John Sparkman (D-AL)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 18, 2009, 06:10:09 PM
Ah, hell. I'll roleplay me some Southern Dixiecrats.

1. Strom Thurmond (D-SC)
2. J. William Fulbright (D-AR)
3. George Smathers (D-FL)
4. Allen Ellender (D-LA)
5. John Sparkman (D-AL)

That works. Although for Ellender you should have to do all the posts in Cajun :P


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 18, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
Any recommendations for me guys (gals)?


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Vepres on November 18, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
1. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
2. Wallace Bennett (R-UT)
3. Frank Carlson (R-KS)
4. Gordon L. Allot (R-CO)
5. Milton Young (R-ND)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Smid on November 18, 2009, 10:45:06 PM
Any recommendations for me guys (gals)?

Assuming you're looking for a moderate Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_P._Case - (R-NJ) Socially moderate, Anti-Vietnam-War, but possibly too left on economic issues for your tastes...
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In 1954, Case ran for the United States Senate. He was strongly anti-McCarthy and so was opposed by conservative elements within his own party...

In the general election, he defeated fellow U.S. Representative Charles R. Howell by a very narrow margin. In the Senate, he compiled one of the most liberal records of a Republican in the U.S. senate. He was re-elected in 1960, 1966 and 1972. Case won 22 votes for president at the 1968 Republican National Convention, losing the nomination to Richard Nixon. He also co-sponsored the Case-Church Amendment which prohibited further U.S. military activity in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in 1973.

Case sought a fifth Senate term in 1978, but lost the Republican primary to Jeffrey Bell, an anti-tax conservative. Bell went on to lose the general election to Bill Bradley. No Republican has been elected to represent New Jersey in the Senate since Case's last victory in 1972.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush - (R-CT) Father of G.H.W. Bush.

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Bush was politically active on social issues. He was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. Bush was also an early supporter of the United Negro College Fund, serving as chairman of the Connecticut branch in 1951...

In 1952, he was elected to the Senate... and during his tenure supported the Polaris submarine project (which were built by Electric Boat Corporation in Groton, Connecticut), civil rights legislation, and the establishment of the Peace Corps.

On December 2, 1954, Bush was part of the large (67-22) majority to censure Wisconsin Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy, after McCarthy had taken on the U.S. Army and the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower later included Bush's name on an undated handwritten list of prospective candidates he favored for the 1960 GOP presidential nomination.

In terms of issues, Bush often agreed with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, but personally disliked and politically opposed him, despite the close relationship his father had with the Rockefeller family. During the 1964 election, Bush denounced Rockefeller for divorcing his first wife and marrying a woman about 20 years his junior with whom Rockefeller had been having an affair while married to his first wife.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_K._Javits - (R-NY)

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A moderate Republican, he was originally allied with Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller, fellow U.S. Senators Irving Ives and Kenneth Keating, and New York City Mayor John V. Lindsay...

In his youth Javits had watched his father work as a ward heeler for Tammany Hall and experienced firsthand the corruption and graft associated with that notorious political machine. Tammany's operations repulsed Javits so much that, despite his Jewish heritage, he forever rejected the city's Democratic party and in the early 1930s joined the Republican-Fusion party...

Throughout his career in Congress, in the House and later in the Senate, Javits was part of a small group of liberal Republicans who were often isolated ideologically from their mainstream Republican colleagues. Although he frequently differed with the more conservative members of his party, Javits always maintained that a healthy political party should tolerate diverse opinions among its members. He rejected the idea that either party should reflect only one point of view. Javits liked to think of himself as a political descendant of Theodore Roosevelt's Progressive Republicanism. He was strongly committed to social issues, believing that the federal government should have a role in improving the lives of Americans. Yet as a lawyer who had for years represented business clients, Javits also advocated a mixed economy in which business and government would cooperate to further the national welfare...

During his first two terms in the House, Javits often sided with the Harry Truman administration. For example, in 1947 he supported Truman's veto of the Taft-Hartley Bill, which he declared was antiunion. A strong opponent of discrimination, Javits also endorsed anti-poll tax legislation in 1947 and 1949, and in 1954 he unsuccessfully sought to have enacted a bill banning segregation in federally funded housing projects. Unhappy with the witch hunt atmosphere in Washington during the Cold War, he publicly opposed continuing appropriations for the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1948. Always a staunch supporter of Israel as a Jewish homeland, Javits served on the House Foreign Affairs Committee during all four of his terms and supported congressional funding for the Marshall Plan and all components of the Truman Doctrine.

In 1954 ran for New York State Attorney General against a well-known and well-funded opponent, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr. Javits's vote-getting abilities carried the day, and he was the only Republican to win a statewide office that year. As attorney general, Javits continued to promote his liberal agenda, supporting such measures as antibias employment legislation and a health insurance program for state employees.

Upon taking office, Javits resumed his role as the most outspoken Republican liberal in Congress... During his first term he supported the limited 1957 Civil Rights Act, which was bitterly opposed by many of his southern colleagues. In foreign affairs he backed the Eisenhower Doctrine for the Middle East and also pressed for more foreign military and economic assistance.

Re-elected in 1962 and 1968, he supported Lyndon Johnson's civil rights measures and generally endorsed the Great Society programs. To promote his views on social legislation, he served on the Senate Labor and Human Resources Committee for twenty years, most of that time as the second-ranking minority member. Javits initially backed Johnson during the early years of America's involvement in the Vietnam War, supporting, for example, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_H._Case - (R-SD)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Aiken - (R-VT)

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He was a proponent of many progressive programs such as Food Stamps and public works projects for rural America, such as rural electrification, flood control and crop insurance. His views were at odds with those of many Old Guard Republicans in the Senate. Vermonters showed Aiken such respect and affection that he reportedly spent only $17.09 on his last reelection bid.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 18, 2009, 11:08:31 PM
1. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
2. Wallace Bennett (R-UT)
3. Frank Carlson (R-KS)

Please add two more people.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Sewer on November 18, 2009, 11:35:29 PM
Any recommendations for me?


I whant nutjobs


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 18, 2009, 11:43:16 PM
Any recommendations for me?


I whant nutjobs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86th_United_States_Congress

Although I might suggest Thomas Dodd, Wayne L. Morse, Paul Douglas, and Warren Magnuson. Take a look and pick your five.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 19, 2009, 02:49:43 AM
1. C. Case (R-NJ)
2. Javits
3. Bush (if Possible I'd take GHW over any other one)
4. Aiken
5. F. Case (SD)


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 19, 2009, 03:01:23 AM
1. C. Case (R-NJ)
2. Javits
3. Bush (if Possible I'd take GHW over any other one)
4. Aiken
5. F. Case (SD)


We're in 1960. GHW isn't around yet.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 19, 2009, 02:16:53 PM
1. C. Case (R-NJ)
2. Javits
3. Bush (if Possible I'd take GHW over any other one)
4. Aiken
5. F. Case (SD)


We're in 1960. GHW isn't around yet.

Well, it was a conditional request, ie if around, he's my number 3, if not, then Prescott.


Title: Re: Looking to start a new game...
Post by: Vepres on November 19, 2009, 05:31:02 PM
Added two in the above post.