Talk Elections

This is the official thread in which you can endorse fellow forum members and help support their quest to win their party's presidential nomination.

If you have no clue what I'm talking about, please see this thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=104046.0).  Particularly this post (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=104046.msg2204494#msg2204494).

A quick recap of what you do:

• You have been given 5 endorsement points.  These are yours to give to as many candidates from either party as you like.  The profiles of all candidates are detailed below.
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• Simply post here the name(s) of the candidate(s) you wish to endorse, and how many points you are giving them.  It doesn't matter if you give their username or their candidate's name.

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• This thread will stay open throughout the primary campaign, which means that you do not have to pledge support straight away.

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• Do not pledge more or less than 5 points.  If this happens, your endorsement will not be counted until it has been corrected.

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• If you change your mind after endorsing your candidates and wish to endorse somebody else, feel free to say so.  However, you'll need to make a new post and not edit your previous one, otherwise it likely won't be noticed.

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• Do not post your endorsements in the other (main) thread.  This wouldn't mean that you are disqualified or anything; you simply need to post your endorsements here instead.

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• As a precaution against 'illegal activities', endorsements will only be accepted from forum members with at least 50 posts to their name.  Furthermore, I'll be conducting IP checks on any accounts that I feel to be suspicious.

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If you have any questions, feel free to post them here and I'll try and answer as quickly as possible.


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Notice to all candidates

If there is a mistake in your profile below, or if you want to make any changes, please notify me ASAP and I'll fix it.

Also, you too have 5 endorsement points to use as well, and I'd advise you to use them even if it's only on your own campaign.

 

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Quote Age: 71 Location: War, WV. Occupation: Retired. Former UMW official. Member of the West Virgina House of Delegates 1979-1981, 1983-1985, 1987-1991 1991-1997, 1999-2001, 2003-present. Unsuccesful candidate (defeated in primary) House of Representatives (1990). Unsuccesful candidate (defeated in primary) Governor (2000). Unsuccesful candidate (defeated in primary) House of Delegates (1980, 1984, 1996). Unsuccesful candidate (defeated in primary) State Senate (1976). Finch is running for President because he had a dream. In that dream, the face of God spoke to him and told him that he had to run for President in order to defeat the Anti-Christ. Finch openly talks of these matters and equates the Anti-Christ with (variously) Wall Street, Mine Owners, People from California, People from New York, Mexicans, Capitalism, the Media, Homosexuals, Canadians, Hippies, Republicans and former State Delegate (and Finch's next door neighbour) Tom Thomas.

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Quote Xander Xiao, recently elected to his third term, is the Senior Senator from California. Prior to his election, he served five terms in the House of Representatives. In Congress, he has no major legislatve accomplishments to point to, but he has accumulated a solidly liberal voting record and has had his name attached to most major legislation.

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Quote Pamela Pickering, former representative of Colorado's 2nd congressional district (the only Republican to do so in modern times) and current 7-year governor of Colorado, has certainly made a name for herself in her 13 years of public service. She grew up in the Bronx (and has a strong Bronx accent), and attended CU, after which she settled in Boulder, CO. While in congress she advocated for smart multilateral foreign policy and balanced budgets. Her fiercest rhetoric came when she was opposing violations of privacy or civil rights. As Governor she pushed for smart deregulation of the private sector and advocated for limited smart regulation, cleaned up any and all corruption, and achieved a budget surplus in her 5th and 6th years as Governor.  Most recently she has successfully made significant cuts to the state business tax, which caused a slight economic boom in the state. She is often very frank and energetic, but this has a certain appeal to many disillusioned voters.

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Quote Wyatt Williams, former Congressman of the New Hampshire 2nd Congressional District and current Junior Senator has begun his push for the Republican Nomination. During his tenure as a Representative and Senator, Williams has acquired the ire of conservatives with his maverick stances compared to the national GOP. Being pro-choice, supportive of civil unions and also for stem cell research, Williams only link to the majority Conservative Republicans are his center right economic policies. Senator Williams hopes to use his run to return the GOP to "the peaceful standards and moderate policies of Rockefeller Republicanism" and to bring about one thing, "Change".

I'll use my 5 points on myself.

I'll use my 5 points on myself.

I use 3 points towards HappyWarrior (Quinn) and 2 points towards Purple State (Taylor).

I'll use 3 points to myself, 2 points to HappyWarrior please.

I'll use my 3 points on myself.
2 points towards AHDuke99

I'll use my five points on myself for now.

Hash - 2
Xahar - 2
Sewer - 1

Now stop PMing me!!

Purple State-1
Andrew CT-1
Vepres-1
Andy Jackson-1
Shilly-1

     1 each to Devilman, tmth, Hamilton, Vepres, & NC Yankee. Too many great guys, too few endorsement points. :P

Linda Lopez, Governor of New Mexico, ascends to the podium:

My fellow Americans, today I launch a historic bid to be the first Latina President.  I've already explained why you should support me, and I will do the same: I cast all five of my endorsement points to my campaign, the first five steps towards saying Nunca Mas!  Every point you give me is a statement of Nunca Mas!

A question, how much time do we have to make our endorsements?

I'm giving:

3 points - Zachary Zuckerman

1 point - Oliver Osborne

1 point - Timothy Taylor

5 for me!

You can make your endorsement at any point in the primary campaign, but the Iowa caucus will be in three days.

3 points for Xahar

2 point for HappyWarrior

My endorsments are:

1 point to Former Governor Q. Quinn of Tennessee 
1 point to Senator T. Taylor of Michigan
2 points to Governor C Cooper of North Carolina
1 point to Governor P. Pickering of Colorado

I give my five to myself.

I'm going to ditto that.

I give all five to myself.

I note that I've just typed up my bio in the other thread.

I also kindly note that I have not PM'd anyone :)

I give 5 points to myself. :)

All five to myself.

I'm not exactly sure what my post count is so this may well be invalid, but I'd like to give 3 of my 'endorsement points' to Republican Governor Steve Spencer [1] and 2 to Democratic Governor/Senator/whatever Linda Lopez.

[1]Hey, he's probably the least electable of all the Republicans, right?

All 5 points to my campaign.

You currently have 58, so you're good.  :)

5 points to myself.

five points to purple state

All 5 points to myself please.

Afleitch
tmthforu94
Purple State
HappyWarrior
Vepres

A point each to them.

This thread ate my post, it should be between Franzl and Bens endorsements. WEB Dubois' appears to be missing as well. You can see them if you post a replay in the Topic Summary and if you view our posts in our profile.

I noticed that too, and I was about to ask if either of you had deleted your posts.  Luckily I'd already recorded both of them in my spreadsheet.

For the record, Quincy gave five points to Timothy Taylor (Purple State), and you gave five points to your campaign.

This happened with an Absentee Voting Booth in the Fanasty Elections Board back in June, but of course "your in the I don't give a damn category" on that subject. :P

I give 3 points to tmth and 2 points to NCYank

Joe, how many endorsements can be given?

Since I neglected to make a campaign speech of any sort, I'll go ahead and do it now in the other thread and give myself 4 endorsement points, while tossing the lone remaining point to devilman since he so kindly endorsed me without anything to base it on.

All 5 points to Hamilton.

You can hand out no more or less than five endorsement points to any candidate(s).

Here's the list of people who have already made their endorsements:

AHDuke99
AndrewCT
Andy Jackson
Bacon King
benconstine
Devilman88
Dr. Cynic
East Coast Republican
Franzl
Hamilton
HappyWarrior
johnnyboy
Kalwejt
Marokai Blue
Mechaman
Meeker
NC Yankee
nickjbor
oakvale
officepark
PGSable
PiT
Purple State
RowanBrandon
Sewer Socialist
Shilly
Swedish Cheese
The Mikado
titaniumtux
tmthforu94
Vepres
WEB Dubois
Xahar

Five points to myself. The Anti-Christ must be defeated, people!

I'm having a bet each way - three points to Clay Cooper (R) and two to Linda Lopez (D).

Zachary Zuckerman (D) - two points
Timothy Taylor (D) - two points
Kevin Kessler (R) - one point

I give..
2pts to Clay Cooper
2pts to Pamela Pickering
1pt to Jim Jessop

2 pts for devilman88 (R)
2 pts for NC Yankee (R)
1 pt for Happy Warrior (D)

When does the Iowa primary start? Also, could we get a current tally on the points?

5 to myself

2 points for Tim Taylor
2 points for Xander Xiao
1 point for Zachary Zuckerman

The Iowa caucus is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after Iowa.

Here are the endorsement point totals:



DEMOCRATS

Diane Dalton (NiK)	TOTAL	0
Franklin Finch (Al)	Al      TOTAL	5 5
Gillespie Goldsmith (benconstine)	benconstine      TOTAL	5 5
Linda Lopez (The Mikado)	The Mikado      oakvale      PGSable      Smid      TOTAL	5 2 3 2 12
Martin Montgomery (afleitch)	Franzl      TOTAL	1 1
Oliver Osborne (Shilly)	Mechaman      Dr. Cynic Shilly TOTAL	1 1 5 7
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	HappyWarrior Marokai Blue AndrewCT Meeker Kalwejt Swedish Cheese      Franzl rebeltarian      TOTAL	5 3 2 3 2 1 1 1 18
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Marokai Blue Meeker Purple State Mechaman Dr. Cynic Swedish Cheese              Quincy Franzl PGSable Barnes Montag      TOTAL	2 2 5 1 1 1 5 1 1 2 2 23
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	nickjbor Xahar Kalwejt titaniumtux Montag TOTAL	2 5 3 2 2 14
Zachary Zuckerman (Sewer Socialist)	Sewer Socialist          nickjbor Dr. Cynic titaniumtux PGSable Barnes Montag TOTAL	5 1 3 1 1 2 1 14

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	Devilman88 PiT Swedish Cheese AHDuke99 Smid dead0man rebeltarian      TOTAL	3 1 2 1 3 2 2 14
Eric Emerson (Bacon King)	Bacon King johnnyboy TOTAL	5 1 6
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	PiT tmthforu94 Franzl RowanBrandon officepark johnnyboy TOTAL	1 5 1 3 4 1 15
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	Devilman88 AHDuke99 johnnyboy dead0man TOTAL	2 4 1 1 8
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	AndrewCT Mechaman Barnes TOTAL	3 1 1 5
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	Mechaman PiT Swedish Cheese Vepres Franzl johnnyboy dead0man TOTAL	1 1 1 5 1 1 2 12
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	PiT johnnyboy East Coast Republican      Hamilton TOTAL	1 1 5 5 12
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	PiT oakvale NC Yankee RowanBrandon officepark rebeltarian TOTAL	1 3 5 2 1 2 14
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	nickjbor titaniumtux TOTAL	4 4
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	Mechaman Andy Jackson TOTAL	1 5 6

5 for me

5 points for Xahar.

5 points for Xahar

Two to Purple State, one to The Mikado, one to HappyWarrior, and one to AndrewCT

I give my 5 points to Tmthforu94, Helen Hudson

5 points tmthforu94

2 points to Purple State
1 point to Bacon King
1 point to Xahar
1 point to Al

Question:
Let's say, we were getting to the last primaries. What would happen if you had 4 campaign points left, then someone who had previously endorsed you with 5 points changed their endorsement and only gave you 1? Even if you had a lead, would you be eliminated? Or what?

2 points to Eskimo of Alaska
3 points to AHDuke

five points for Xahar.

Sorry, who?

tmth's current display name.

Ah, I just noticed it.

I'll say one thing for Xahar: that man knows how to campaign.  Just so long as he doesn't hack the random number generator.  ;)


Thanks.  :)

People! The Anti-Christ must be DEFEATED! Endorse Finch! Kill the Anti-Christ! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!

Basically, if you finish a stage and after new endorsement activity has been taken into account you have 0 credits, you're out; no matter how many delegates you have.  I know it's implausible, but then that scenario happening in this game is pretty unlikely.  :)

Five points to Xahar

stop messaging me ppl pls

KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!

2 for Zuckerman
2 for Taylor
1 for Xiao

Xahar- 3
Sewer- 2

Hudson and Xiao wins Iowa Caucus


It was an exciting night in Iowa as the count down to this year’s Presidential election began. 

 In the Republican Primary the popular female Governor of Arkansas, Helen Hudson, won a comfortable victory taking 25 % of the vote. Governor Hudson has long been considered one of the frontrunners for the Republican nomination, and she has now made history by being the first woman to win the Iowa caucus. Will she also make history by being the first woman elected to the White House?

Even though her win puts Hudson in a comfortable lead, she still has a long way to go if she wants to be Commander in Chief. Her most dangerous opponent seems to be the handsome and charming moderate Clay Cooper of North Carolina, who came in second to her in Iowa, claiming 17 % of Iowans’ vote.

Next up is the fairly liberal state of New Hampshire where a Moderate like Cooper will be favoured to beat the Conservative Hudson, and shortly thereafter Cooper’s neighbours in South Carolina will cast their votes.

On the Democratic side California Senator and master campaigner Xander Xiao, succeeded in taking home the Iowa caucus, winning 18 delegates. Xiao’s fellow colleague in the Senate Timothy Taylor, and former Tennessee Governor Quentin Quinn, who won 14 and 13 delegates respectively, was however not far behind.

The question now is weather Xiao’s charm and excellent campaign strategies will help him keep his advantage over the other candidates, and prove that America is indeed ready for a President who’s name they have no idea how to pronounce, or if he will eventually be brought down by one of his many fellow Democrats in the race.   

Joe, I'm not trying to tell you have to play your game, but I think it might be a good idea to give bonus to candidates who placed in the top four in a primary. For example:

Let take the Iowa Results:

Hudson came in first so she would get a 100% bonus toward NH
Cooper can in second so he would get a 75% bonus toward NH
Vasquez came in third so he would get a 50% bonus toward NH
Spencer came in fourth so he would get a 25% bonus toward NH

De-feat the Anti-Christ!

I endorse my 5 points to Tim Taylor.

You know, that's not a bad idea.  I'm going to float this idea in a separate thread to see how the others feel about it.

Five points for Tim Taylor

I endorse my 5 points for Senator Tmthforu94.

Awesome analysis.  :)

The New Hampshire primary is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after New Hampshire.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Diane Dalton (NiK)	TOTAL	0
Franklin Finch (Al)	Ebowed      TOTAL	1 1
Gillespie Goldsmith (benconstine)	TOTAL	0
Linda Lopez (The Mikado)	realisticidealist           TOTAL	1 1
Oliver Osborne (Shilly)	TOTAL	0
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	realisticidealist      TOTAL	1 1
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	realisticidealist      Ebowed Antonio V GZ67 dc_united_16 TOTAL	2 2 2 5 5 16
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	RosettaStoned phknrocket1 Grumpy Gramps Ebowed TommyC1776 sbane EarlAW Antonio V Flyers2010 TOTAL	5 5 5 1 5 5 5 1 3 35
Zachary Zuckerman (Sewer Socialist)	Antonio V Flyers2010 TOTAL	2 2 4

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	TOTAL	0
Eric Emerson (Bacon King)	Ebowed TOTAL	1 1
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	floridarepub Jbrase Ronnie ajc0918 TOTAL	5 5 2 5 17
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	Ronnie TOTAL	3 3
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	realisticidealist            TOTAL	1 1
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	TOTAL	0
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	TOTAL	0
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	TOTAL	0
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	Hashemite TOTAL	5 5
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

They are cumulative from the last round, correct?

EDIT: Just checked the thread and saw that yes. Just got scared for a little. :P

I endorse Rick Romano.

All endorsement points to Rick Romano.

All five points to Rick Ramano.

"My fellow Republicans and Independents.......I ask that we form a united front against the Democratic Party, before they themselves find a single canidate to unite behind. I have endorsed Rick Romano, seeing in him the best canidate to carry the banner of the Grand Old Party of the republic......and urge you all to do the same. God bless America.....and thank you."

5 points for Helen Hudson.

5 points to Xander Xiao

5 points to Helen Hudson

Five to myself.

Is there any other way we can get tokens?

Winning primaries.

2 points to Clay Cooper

3 points to Rick Romano

Joe, I think it might be wise to put a limit on how many bouns tokens you can you in a state. It takes the fun out of the game when someone uses 20+ bouns tokens in the game, like tmth and Xahar. :P

But then they may have fewer to spend later. Besides, everybody will start attacking them :P

No, they will win the primary by 40 points or more and get alot of new tokens.

Candidates who win a primary can win no more than 5 credits, even if they win the primary by more than 5 percentage points.

Ah, I just read that. Ok, I feel better.

Five points to Xahar.

You can edit your post when the thread is locked?

I edited it when it was unlocked.

 
You couldn't have, the thread has been locked since 4:17, you post said edit at 4:24, plus I checked after Joe locked it and you still had 33 bouns tokens up :P

thmthforu94 asked me if he could make a quick edit on the basis that he didn't initially realize that there is a limit to the number of credits you can win if you win the primary, so I unlocked the thread for five minutes.  This was a one-time favor.

Ah I see, ok.

I give all of my points to Xahar.

Since they asked. ;-)

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OOPS! Only 5 points to give? OK. 3 to Happy since he asked first, the other 2 to Xahar.

Sorry, you only have a maximum of 5 points to donate.  I can't accept your post until it's corrected, I'm afraid.

Corrected

The Nevada caucus is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after Nevada.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Diane Dalton (NiK)	TOTAL	0
Franklin Finch (Al)	TOTAL	0
Gillespie Goldsmith (benconstine)	TOTAL	0
Linda Lopez (The Mikado)	TOTAL	0
Oliver Osborne (Shilly)	TOTAL	0
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	Badger TOTAL	3 3
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	TOTAL	0
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	gregusodenus      opebo Rob Badger TOTAL	5 5 5 2 17
Zachary Zuckerman (Sewer Socialist)	TOTAL	0

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	Libertas TOTAL	2 2
Eric Emerson (Bacon King)	TOTAL	0
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	Inks.LWC A-Bob TOTAL	5 5 10
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	TOTAL	0
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	TOTAL	0
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	TOTAL	0
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	FallenMorgan Swing Voter          Lahbas Libertas TOTAL	5 5 5 3 18
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	TOTAL	0
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	TOTAL	0
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

3 Xahar
2 HappyWarrior

5 for Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)

Expensive victories in New Hampshire might cost winners’ nominations.

Helen Hudson and Xander Xiao have done it again. They have booth successfully won the second primaries of this year’s Presidential election and thereby conquered a number of new delegates for their cause.

It was however expensive victories for booth candidates.

Hudson, although being the winner of Iowa, was never expected to be very competive in New Hampshire due to her social conservatism. The Arkansas Governor however seemed determined to change that, and spent a huge amount of her campaign funds on advertising and campaigning in the state to turn the tide. Yet she only narrowly managed to beat home state candidate Wyatt Williams.

On the Democratic side Senator Xander Xiao decided to go all in as well, and use his huge campaign funds to rid himself of all competition in New Hampshire.

This sort of campaigning nevertheless seems to worry quite a big number of people. This paper spoke to the life-long libertarian and New Hampshire native, Bastian Bullworth, who’s been considered one of the country’s leading economic experts for years. About Xiao’s and Hudson’s spending Bullworth said; “It’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen in a long time. Both of them are spending like fifteen-year-olds in a candy store.” He continues to tell us that he thinks this might be a problem for the country if either candidate is elected President. “I’m afraid that if these two cannot handle their own campaign economy responsibly, there’s no way we can trust them to be responsible with the Government’s money when in office. I would say that either of these candidates would turn out to be big spenders.”

The question is though if either candidate will ever manage to get nominated if they keep handling their budgets like this. Both Hudson and Xiao wasted more than twice as much in New Hampshire as they gained in campaign contributions, an economic equation that will have them broke before being able to secure enough delegates to become their party’s nominee.

As our eyes turns towards Nevada, Hudson seems to have learned her lesson, as it was recently reported that she will have a very minor campaign in the state that is believed to easily be carried by its own Governor, Eric Emerson. Xander Xiao on the other hand still doesn’t seem to be slowing down money throwing.

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Oops, my five to Andrew Atkins.

The Pikering campaign would like to have a word with you >:(

All points to Lahbas

5 points to Purple State

Our campaign strongly disagrees with the disturbing statements made by Swedish Cheese towards our campaign. Of course our campaign is going to spend more many than other campaigns. We have more points to spend. Governor Helen Hudson went into the New Hampshire primary with 39 credits, and came out of it with 33. We do not see how that is reckless spending. We increased our delegate lead and increased momentum. Other candidates have lost just as much, and they didn't even win delegates. If anything, our campaign has spent our money wisely. It is silly to say Governor Hudson won't be able to control the government's money. The only reason Governor Hudson is spending so much now is because many people have confidence in her and support her for the Presidency.
And also, the lesson we learned is that citizens of New Hampshire and Iowa support Hudson. We are not focusing on Nevada because we feel like there are other states we need to be focusing on now. There are also 2 other candidates who has their main focus on the Nevada primary. It would be foolish to go all out on it, when we know our chances aren't great to begin with.

The Xiao campaign is confident that the truth will win out, despite the calumnies of certain candidates.

Proposed rules change for next run of the game: All endorsements must be in by Iowa.

5 for Franklin Finch (Al). ^_^

Diolch!

I am withdrawing, and retracting my five points.

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I decline to state my endorsement, as of now.

I wish we can hold rallies to get more tokens.

5 campaign tokens to Tmthforu94.

Thank you, Senator Dalton. :)

Yea, blah blah blah.. We all know you don't have a life and seat on the computer all day long PMing people for tokens :P ;)

I seem to remember that you did the very same thing, Governor Cooper. ;D

I suppose I have to put it here, too:

My delegates and five tokens to Taylor.

The corruption of the Xiao machine must be stopped, and Taylor's the man to do it.

I did send you a PM, I was talking about all the other people who endorse him, because he sent them PMs..

What I don't get is why you would endorse a populist candidate?

A WOMAN'S PLACE IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! IT'S TIME FOR A WOMAN!

There is another woman in the race, that vewis are closer to your own!

The man who used 27 attack points after promising a clean campaign? ::)

I'm retracting my endorsement of Rick Romaro, and giving all the points to myself.

Actually, Diane Dalton's remaining balance was 6 credits, so you have an extra credit to dish out.

Also, whoever you endorse (assuming it'll only be one person) will receive an additional 4% momentum bonus.

If I can, I would like to give 2 endorsement credits to Xahar, and 3 to Vepres.

Well:

4 to the one who knocked my door with that >>> Xahar

1 to an apocalyptic zealot >>> Realpolitik (realpolitik??...what did i just do?? Blasphemy!!)

I drop out and endorse Timothy Taylor.

Hoozah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111!!!

I endorse Xahar

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Munchkin

Not that link...

No! Now I'll be there for hours.....

Xahar has my endorsement.

3 for Devilman88

2 for Tmthforu94

The South Carolina primary is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after South Carolina.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	WMS Benwah TOTAL	5 1 6
Gillespie Goldsmith (benconstine)	TOTAL	0
Oliver Osborne (Shilly)	Mechaman TOTAL	-1  (unavailable) -1
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	nclib TOTAL	2 2
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Mechaman Mechaman The Mikado                TOTAL	-1 4 5 8
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	nclib AkSaber Benwah Franken JSojourner TOTAL	3 2 4 5 5 19
Zachary Zuckerman (Sewer Socialist)	TOTAL	0

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	fezzyfestoon TOTAL	5 5
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	Winfield TOTAL	3 3
Eric Emerson (Bacon King)	TOTAL	0
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	NiK Winfield TOTAL	6 2 8
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	TOTAL	0
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	Mechaman TOTAL	-1 -1
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	Mechaman AkSaber TOTAL	-1 3 2
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	Lahbas TOTAL	-5 -5
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	TOTAL	0
Ulysses Underwood (Lahbas)	NewDealDemocrat      Lahbas TOTAL	5 5 10
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	Nhoj TOTAL	5 5
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	Mechaman TOTAL	-1 -1

Since Lopez has dropped out of the race, can I transfer my two endorsement points that I gave her?

If so, I'd like to transfer them to Al's crazy "fight-the-anti-christ" character.

Lopez endorsed Taylor, thus giving him all remaining credits she had.  However, since 2 of them were from you, they can be transferred from Taylor to Finch after the current stage.

I give 3 to Helen Hudson
And I give 2 to Gov. Cooper

Cheers! Would appreciate that!

Withdrawn, endorsing AHDuke. He gets all my remaining tokens.

Good choice. I'm glad Jim Jessop's boyish good looks swayed you as well. Now if only the rest would follow suit.

Since Afleitch has dropped out, I woud like to transer that one endorsement point from him to Xahar.

Jessop is alright, but Hudson and Cooper fit my bi-sexuality :P

A suggestion: To involve those whoa aren't the nominees, perhaps there could be some third party candidates (weak, the goal would be to get a certain % of the popular vote) and/or allow former candidates to campaign for others in the general election.

For this particular primary and general campaign, there's only going to be two parties because I want to keep things as simple as possible.  But in the next game or two, I'll try and introduce a third party to spice things up.

Former candidates will be able to campaign for the eventual nominees in this general campaign, or at least provide some kind of beneficial effect, but I still need to work out the dynamics first.

Will you run games continuously or break it up a bit?

It would be rather interesting if in the next game, points could be allocated to any primary at any time.

We'll see how my energy is doing after this one finishes.  :)

Sorry, could you clarify that?

Since Lopez dropped out, I'd like to transfer my 2 endorsement points to Xiao.

I drop out and give all my stuff to Al.

I think he means like Giuliani campaigning in Florida and ignoring the earlier races... as the game stands, there'd be nothing to gain by doing that.

Well, yes, there would have to be a mechanism to mke that worthwhile. Perhaps it's too much work.

I'm dropping out and endorsing Andy Jackson. I suggest others do the same.

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Smid Sewer Socialist            TOTAL	2 22 24
Martin Montgomery (afleitch)	Franzl TOTAL	-1 -1
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	TOTAL	0
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Smid oakvale TOTAL	-2 -2 -4
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	Franzl oakvale TOTAL	1 2 3

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	JewishConservative      TOTAL	2 2
Eric Emerson (Bacon King)	Bacon King TOTAL	-5 -5
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	JewishConservative TOTAL	3 3
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	Bacon King TOTAL	5 5
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	TOTAL	0
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	TOTAL	0
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	TOTAL	0
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	TOTAL	0
Ulysses Underwood (Lahbas)	Lahbas TOTAL	-5 -5
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	TOTAL	0
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	Lahbas TOTAL	5 5

Will I get a border sharing bonus in Arizona?

I am dropping out, and endorsing tmthforu94.

Thank you, Senator Kessler. :)

Vepres:

The honerable Governor of the great state of South Dakota, Steve Spencer, regrets to inform the press that he is suspending his candidacy for President. He has yet to indicate any preferences with regards to an endorsement, but he did speak highly of fellow Governors Clay Cooper and Helen Hudson.

Thank you-
NC Yankee
Chairmen of Spencer for President 2009.

That's too bad. You would have made a good President.

There haven't been any new endorsements from non-candidates since the last stage, but this post is simply to signify that any further endorsements will only be included for the stage after the imminent next one.

I give all 5 credits to Tim Taylor of the great state of Michigan.

I offer all my magic beans to the only voice of reason in this campaign, Mr Finch.

That zealot has enough points. I retire the one point i've put on him to put it on my other candidate, Mr Xiao.

I want neither Finch nor Cooper to drop out, but if either does, I want my points to flow to the other, rather than whoever they endorse. If both drop out, well, I'll get back to you on that, but it will be a Republican.

Yay, many thanks. :)

Can NPs endorse?  If so, I give all my credits to Atkins.

What's an 'NP'?

Non-player.

Oh right.  Well, since about 95% of the endorsements issued so far have been from non-players, I doubt it'd be a problem to accept Bullmoose's.  :)

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Jas Benwah TOTAL	5 -1 4
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Ringorules        TOTAL	5 5
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	Benwah TOTAL	1 1

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	bullmoose88      TOTAL	5 5
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	TOTAL	0
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	TOTAL	0
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	TOTAL	0
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	TOTAL	0
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	TOTAL	0
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	TOTAL	0
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

Heh.  Sorry, I hadn't been paying attention as to who was endorsing here.

Well now that hash seems to be out im going to switch my endorsement to Franklin Finch. Down with the antichrist!!

I'm going to retract 2 endorsements tokens from Helen Hudson and give them to Pamela Pickering

Thanks! :)

Copying this here:

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Nhoj TOTAL	5 5
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	TOTAL	0
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	TOTAL	0

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	TOTAL	0
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	A-Bob TOTAL	-2 -2
Jim Jessop (AHDuke99)	TOTAL	0
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	A-Bob TOTAL	2 2
Victor Vasquez (Hashemite)	Nhoj TOTAL	-5 -5
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

Despite the fact that Mr. Jessop is the most handsome candidate in the race, he will be dropping out and endorsing Vepres today. His detest for populist drove him to make his decision.

Thank you!

Clay Cooper steps to the stage:

Today is a sad day, but a day for Republicans to unite. Today I come to endorse a candidate for the Republican Nom, because I will be dropping out. The Candidate I will endorse is a strong woman who will be able to lead the Republicans with a new face. She will be able to united this nation. She is a strong leader and I believe will be able to win the White House. That is why I am endorsing..... (I will finish after I come back from church :) )

.... Pamela Pickering, and giving her all my tokens and delegates! Pickering for President!

After much deliberation the honerable Governor, Senator and Congressmen from the great state of South Dakota has decided to endorse Helen Hudson for President. This is a critical time in our country and we need a strong Conservative in the White House. Thank you and happy Thanksgiving.

The Governor mounts his horse and rides off to go hunting.

I'd like to endorse Finch (Al).

*A-bob comes to podium, greeted by cheering crowd in his home state of Colorado. Stands next to Pamela Pickering on his right*

I give all my remaining credits to Pamela Pickering (transfer of credits from Hudson). She is the only candidate who has the ability to win this nomination against Helen Hudson. I encourage all other candidates, who have waged hard campaigns to drop out and unit around this conservative.

It is time to look at fact that if you do not stand besides her, Helen Hudson will win the nomination.

It is time for  true leadership, true vision, true solutions that we can count on!

*crowd cheers*

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Gustaf TOTAL	5 5
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	TOTAL	0
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	TOTAL	0

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	A-Bob TOTAL	-3 -3
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	A-Bob TOTAL	3 3
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

What about Devilman and Duke, or did you already take those into account.

Andrew Atkins is dropping out and endorsing Pamela Pickering.

I endorse Xander Xiao with all my points.

Not a chance.

why

You know exactly why, you little shit.  What's more, you don't even have any credits left with which to endorse.

Um seeing as none of the current candidates have received five points from me, I can give them to whoever I want and I pick Xander Xiao.

Jesus, you're dense.  You endorsed yourself with your own account (along with Swing Voter and johnnyboy), and then spent those credits on your campaign.  You had a remaining balance of 3 credits or so, which evaporated when I canceled the endorsements issued by your sock puppets.  Ergo, you don't have anything left.

Anyway, I think I'm quite within my power as the creator of this game to ignore any further attempts by you to fuck things up.

haha

Quick question - did my three endorsement points held by Cooper transfer to Finch as per my earlier post a week or so back? If not, can we transfer them after Maine?

endorse finch with all five endorsement points

We can switch endorsements? I'm a little slow on these rules. :P

Well, assuming I can switch endorsements, I throw all my points to Xiao (Xahar) then.

5 to Xiao.

Ah, I forgot about that.  I'll take it into account after Maine.

I'll give my support to Xiao.

     Since Devilman, Hamilton, & NC Yankee are out, I'd like to transfer the three endorsement points I gave them to Al if that is permissible.

I switch my support to Xiao, in light of Taylor's withdrawal.

I urge all of my supporters to throw their support to Al.

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Lief PiT TOTAL	5 3 8
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Antonio V Barnes Ringorules TOTAL	-2 -2 -5 -9
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	Marokai Blue      Antonio V Barnes Ringorules TOTAL	5 4 5 5 19
Zachary Zuckerman (Sewer Socialist)	Marokai Blue Antonio V Barnes TOTAL	-5 -2 -2 -9

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REPUBLICANS

Andrew Atkins (fezzyfestoon)	TOTAL	0
Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	Smid PiT TOTAL	-3 -1 -4
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	TOTAL	0
Kevin Kessler (AndrewCT)	Barnes                TOTAL	-1 -1
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	TOTAL	0
Rick Romano (Hamilton)	PiT TOTAL	-1 -1
Steve Spencer (NC Yankee)	PiT TOTAL	-1 -1
Wyatt Williams (Andy Jackson)	TOTAL	0

I endorse Franklin Finch and give all my credits (8 or so, I think).

My two points go to Xander Xaio since Purple State dropped out.

I'd like to change my endorsments.

1 point more to Pickering.
2 points to Hudson
1 point to Xiao

Thanks! :)

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	TOTAL	0
Quentin Quinn (HappyWarrior)	Swedish Cheese    TOTAL	-1 -1
Timothy Taylor (Purple State)	Badger Swedish Cheese TOTAL	-2 -1 -3
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	Badger Swedish Cheese TOTAL	2 1 3

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REPUBLICANS

Clay Cooper (Devilman88)	Swedish Cheese TOTAL	-2 -2
Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)	Swedish Cheese    TOTAL	2 2
Pamela Pickering (Vepres)	Swedish Cheese TOTAL	1 1

I'm withdrawing from the race and endorsing Hudson.

Congratulations to the nominee.

Thank you, Ms. Pickering.
And thanks Xahar. If the Democratic race stays the same, it looks like you will be my opponent. This will be a historic election, for sure!

Indeed it shall. :)

You put up an awesome fight, Vepres.  Thank you for playing.  :)

And congratulations again to the presumptive nominee, of course.

This whole game was a fantastic idea Joe. :)

Hudson/Pickering?

I'm changing my endorsement tokens from 5 to Vepres to 5 to Finch.

Sorry Hudson, but you've already one the race. No use giving you credits to win states you already will win

Sorry, I forgot to mention earlier that now that Hudson has clinched the nomination, her endorsements points are now 'locked' in.  This is simply to stop an exodus of endorsements to the Democratic race, which would then affect the general campaign (negatively for Hudson in this case).

Hudson may still receive endorsements, just to clarify, but she cannot have any transferred away from her.

Ah, bonus tokens. I remember what they do now. How long 'till the WV primary?

Stage 17.

After my victory of Rhode Island, I'll be dropping out and endorsing Helen Hudson for President. All of my tokens/delegates and such to Hudson with said endorsement.

Can mine still switch since Williams was still in the race when I endorsed Finch?

I have my endorsement points lodged with Finch presently. Will the 'locked in' element of endorsements re-open come the General Campaign, or should I be transferring my points to Hudson before the end of the Democrat Primary season to prevent them being tied up during the General?

So how does the whole VP thing work?

Presumably tmth will pick whoever he wants.

No.  Hudson had already clinched the nomination, so it didn't matter if Williams was still in the race.



Hudson's points are locked in to avoid her losing any of them, but she can still receive them either from the Democratic side or from posters who haven't issued endorsements yet.  So my advice would be to switch your points from Finch to Hudson now (i.e. before the Democratic race wraps up), assuming that's what you want to do.



The details will be explained at the start of the general campaign, but essentially, there will be a sign-up thread for prospective running mates (which can include the former presidential candidates), and then the nominees will announce their selections shortly before the convention phase.

Cheers for the advice. Can I please transfer my points from Finch to Hudson now (sorry Al). I realise it will be too late for the Pennsylvania Primary, but I assume you'll switch them as a first priority even if Xiao wraps up the Primary at that point?

     Since Xahar is close to clinching the nomination, I will switch my 3 endorsement points from Al to tmth.

Yes, I think so.

Al scores a thrilling upset!

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	Smid PiT TOTAL	-3 -3 -6
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	TOTAL	0

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REPUBLICANS

Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)

Smid PiT TOTAL

3 3 6

For the remainder of the primary race, all endorsements for Xander Xiao and Helen Hudson are 'locked in'.  If you have endorsed either of them, you may not now withdraw your endorsement points from them. 

Anybody who hasn't yet issued endorsement points may do so for any of the remaining candidates, including Franklin Finch.

Wow big Pennsylvania upset!

The next stage is beginning imminently, therefore no more endorsements will be included for that particular contest.

Those who haven't yet issued endorsement points may still do so; these will go towards the next stages after the next stage.

Here are the endorsement point totals, showing only the endorsements issued since the last stage:



DEMOCRATS

Franklin Finch (Al)	PGSable TOTAL	-3 -3
Xander Xiao (Xahar)	PGSable TOTAL	3 3

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REPUBLICANS

Helen Hudson (tmthforu94)

TOTAL

0

For the remainder of the primary race, all endorsements for Xander Xiao and Helen Hudson are 'locked in'.  If you have endorsed either of them, you may not now withdraw your endorsement points from them. 

Anybody who hasn't yet issued endorsement points may do so for any of the remaining candidates, including Franklin Finch.

I gather that now that the primaries are over, I'll transfer all my endorsement points from Finch to Hudson.

I'll endorse Xiao.

Actually I'm afraid I can't allow that, for the same reasons I couldn't do it for A-Bob either.

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All endorsements are now locked, period.  No switching of endorsements will be recognized, and no new endorsements will be accepted either.

Al (Finch) has a remaining balance of 120 credits, and he'll have until the Democratic convention to decide whether to endorse Xiao, Hudson, or neither of them.  After the convention, if he hasn't endorsed, his credits will be canceled.

I initially gave HappyWarrior 2 preference points and 3 to Xahar

So can I go those all points to Xahar now?

It doesn't matter, since HappyWarrior endorsed me.

When is the general starting?

I need another day or so.