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Title: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Meeker on November 23, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
A resolution is being circulated by RNC members which calls for candidates to support at least 8 of the 10 items listed below or face action by the RNC:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.


Why 8 of the 10? Because Ronald Reagan once said "that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent." Makes perfect sense.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Scam of God on November 23, 2009, 08:13:35 PM
No. The first directly contradicts the fifth, the sixth, the seventh, the eighth, and the ninth.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Barack Hussian YO MAMA!!!! on November 23, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
A resolution is being circulated by RNC members which calls for candidates to support at least 8 of the 10 items listed below or face action by the RNC:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.


Why 8 of the 10? Because Ronald Reagan once said "that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent." Makes perfect sense.

if somebody agrees with you 8 out of 10 times he is not your opponent if somebody agrees with you 7 out of 10 time 's, they are traitors to this country and should be tried for treason.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Rob on November 23, 2009, 08:18:19 PM
We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill

No

We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care

No

We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation

No

We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check

No

We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants

No

We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges

No

We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat

No

We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act

No

We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion

No

We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

No

I guess I'm a bad Republican. Sorry, zombie Reagan.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 23, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Sbane on November 23, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: President Mitt on November 23, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
I failed, miserably.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 23, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
     I oppose 5-9, so no.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 23, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill

No

We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care

No

We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation

No

We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check

No

We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants

Yes

We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges

Yes

We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat

Yes

We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act

No

We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion

No

We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Yes

4 out of 10.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Zarn on November 23, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
I don't agree with #5 and #8.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: useful idiot on November 23, 2009, 10:03:37 PM
Only support 6, 7, and 10...


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on November 23, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: President Mitt on November 23, 2009, 10:17:55 PM
4/10.....


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on November 23, 2009, 10:34:41 PM
Nope.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Rowan on November 23, 2009, 10:36:40 PM
10/10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 23, 2009, 10:41:32 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill; [spam feel good question. The devil is in the details. The stimulus money was probably largely wasted by not focusing on incentivising hiring and apparently the bill had a minimal impact on the economy and job creation, but that is based on the details, not some over-arching small government grand unified theory.]

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care; [Too vague to comment; I support mandatory insurance and oppose the public option and single payer, so should I answer yes or no, and market based health reform does not seem to address what to do with the impecunious.]

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation; [Agree, but cap and trade is dead anyway, so it's kind of moot.]

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check; [Yes!]

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants; [Some form of amnesty is essential, and my ideas are too discursive to outline here, but I am between the parties on this issue, good moderate that I am. :) )

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges; [Generally agree, but the term "victory" is inane. The goal is and must be far more modest than that, along the lines, that we don't want to leave a rogue nation in place over time that causes the planet heartburn big time down the line.]

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat; [Sure, easier said than done, and the tough issue is what to do if nothing works short of acts of violence.]

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act; [No!]

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and [No! Rationing is essential, and if abortion is legal it should be funded.]

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership. [I don't think so in the sense that I am a Baysian on this, and want to weigh the costs and benefits in specific instances, and do support Fed action where wise because guns are easily transportable across state lines]

So which party do I belong in folks?  Tell me. Thanks in advance. :)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Ronnie on November 23, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
Torie,

You seem to agree with the GOP on 1/2 of those listed issues.  I see you as an independent, if not a more Democratic than Republican leaning one.

Anyway, I agree with the GOP on 8 of those 10 issues.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 23, 2009, 10:58:18 PM
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.Absolutely
5.Absolutely
6.No
7.Yes
8.No
9.Absolutely Not
10.Yes


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 23, 2009, 11:19:28 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;


(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;


(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.



Am I a good Republican? I agree with 7/10, bolded is what I agree. 5 and 10 were a bit vague, so I left them unbolded. I support the right to bear arms, just support background checks. As for Immigration, I support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and wish to make the English language an official language.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 23, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
So which party do I belong in folks?  Tell me. Thanks in advance. :)

D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 23, 2009, 11:21:38 PM
So which party do I belong in folks?  Tell me. Thanks in advance. :)

D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA


Is Lunar not the only one who marks JC down as his personal hero, ass-hole? :P


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 23, 2009, 11:23:02 PM
Torie, we like you, don't leave. :(


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Sewer on November 23, 2009, 11:35:48 PM
1.No
2.No
3.lol
4.Huh?
5.what?
6.No
7.Yes
8.No
9.wtf
10.Yes


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Padfoot on November 24, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
A resolution is being circulated by RNC members which calls for candidates to support at least 8 of the 10 items listed below or face action by the RNC:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.


Why 8 of the 10? Because Ronald Reagan once said "that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent." Makes perfect sense.

This test is a complete joke and almost guaranteed to chase another 5-10% of their party into the open arms of Democrats and smaller parties if they actually try to implement it.  Would any of the New England Republicans defeated in 2006 & 2008 pass this test?

(1) No credibility here.  Although he was aided by an incompetent Democratic Congress, the Bush administration is responsible for TARP which is far worse than the stimulus.  Bush and the GOP are also mostly responsible for running up the deficit and national debt because of their irresponsible spending and tax cuts.  Lose a turn and try again.

(2) That's fine I suppose but I'll be back to this one once we get to (9).

(3) As someone already said, cap and trade is market based.  Epic fail.

(4) Agree.  I am generally anti-"union".  I am for workers' rights but unions are some of the most corrupt institutions in the country if you ask me.

(5) Totally unrealistic and devastating to the economy.  Not to mention, who will they get to watch their children and clean their houses after they've kicked all the menial laborers out?

(6) Define "victory."  The majority of people fighting us in Iraq would either leave or lay down arms as soon as we did the same.  They mostly fall into the categories of foreign (non-Iraqi) terrorists fighting us there due to easy access to targets and native Iraqis who are sick of us squatting in their country.  As for Afghanistan I don't think Obama or I would have any problems continuing the fight there.

(7) Because containment has worked so well in the past.  ::)  Remind me, is Cuba still communist?

(8) Absolutely not.  Its completely Unconstitutional and an affront to equal rights.  The modern day GOP is no better than the segregationist era Democratic Party.  They encourage a culture of intolerance, hatred, and second-class citizenship.

(9) This is completely contradictory with regards to (2).  We already have health-care rationing.  The rich get it and the not-poor-enough don't.  That's rationing with a bias against the most vulnerable persons if you ask me.  Unless you support a system of universal coverage there will always be rationing because someone will be without care.  Abortion is an elective procedure so it should be treated as such.

(10) ....and nuke ownership, and fighter jet ownership right?  No?  Then shut the hell up.  If you don't need those things you don't need any other weapons used primarily for military purposes.  The only legal civilian firearms should be handguns for protection and rifles and such for hunting.

So I guess I score a 1.5/10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Free Palestine on November 24, 2009, 01:16:09 AM
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(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

Yes.

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(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

Yes.

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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Yes.

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(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Yes.

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(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

Yes.

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(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No.  The RNC would be alienating a lot of real conservatives here.

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(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No.  See above.

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(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No.  Contradicts the first point, does it not?

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(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

Yes.

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(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Yes.

7/10, I guess I wouldn't be a good Republisheep.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 24, 2009, 01:30:12 AM
Yes, although I disagree with 8.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on November 24, 2009, 01:32:02 AM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on November 24, 2009, 01:33:02 AM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Scam of God on November 24, 2009, 01:36:08 AM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lunar on November 24, 2009, 01:36:59 AM
So which party do I belong in folks?  Tell me. Thanks in advance. :)

D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA
D-CA


Is Lunar not the only one who marks JC down as his personal hero, ass-hole? :P

How did I get dragged into this?


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on November 24, 2009, 01:46:38 AM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.

You are a complete nut case!


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Scam of God on November 24, 2009, 01:50:17 AM
Quote
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.

You are a complete nut case!

Better to be insane and novel than sane and tedious.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Aizen on November 24, 2009, 01:51:32 AM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

Since when does the Republican Party care about smaller debt, smaller government and lower deficits? What a joke

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

Of course not. I like the Republican plan of not having a plan though. I guess when you're the party of intellectual lightweights it's easier to simply be obstructionists.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

As pointed out, this is market reform. So, uh.....


(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Don't really care about unions but I don't "support" the Republican agenda here so no.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No, I'm realistic

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No. Republicans may love wasting money and resources on stupid wars but I don't

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No. I'm not a retarded bigot

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

Abortion will never be illegal. Get over it and stop wasting our time with this stupid wedge issue

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

There isn't going to be any restrictions on guns but at the same time there is no need to expand your "rights" to allow guns on campus, trains, national parks, strip clubs etc. The status quo is not perfect but I'm more or less fine with it. So No to this agenda


So pretty much 0ish out of 10. That's certainly a relief.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 24, 2009, 01:55:35 AM
The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on November 24, 2009, 01:56:13 AM
1-No, and Republicans talking about small government now is downright hilarious.
2-No.
3-No, as stated before this is a market-based system you morons.
4-No, though it's a fairly minor issue and nothing but a scare campaign to blue-collar UNIONS=COMMUNIST!!!!111!!! teabagger types.
5-No.
6-No.
7-This is somewhat vague, but I'll say no since it seems to include military action.
8-No.
9-No, stupid loaded question.
10-Not opposed, but this is now a non-issue and nothing more than more scare tactics.

So around 0.5/10 it seems.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lunar on November 24, 2009, 02:09:49 AM
Is Lunar not the only one who marks JC down as his personal hero, ass-hole? :P

I actually agree with your approach on all of your responses, with a few minor quibbles (being open to health care models based on other countries' experiences in principle, even if admitting it's not a feasible solution in the American political context, being more pro-gun for pragmatic reasons).

I think all of us are guilty of, what was that term I just used in another thread?, ideologically pre-scripted policies, that's right, and then realizing that the issues are more complex than we like to simplify them down to....some of which boil down to conflicting persuasive moral principles (abortion), and others which get boiled down to rhetorically charged words ("government takeover"  "single-payer") with little interest in how the actual policy turns out....which results in a "compromise" which is barely tolerable to a majority of legislators assortments of special interests which care about different things.   I mean, with all the talk of the evil health insurance industry opposing health care reform, it's mostly lost that the prescription drug industry is spending $150m in support of it in exchange for some looser regulations on new technology patents to prevent them from becoming generics (and more people having access helps them too).... anyway...I'm not sure what I was trying to say.  I doubt I agree with any hilarious set of guiding partisan principles and it'd be offensive if anyone tried to impose that on my party.  Those principles don't stem from any meta theory of governance, as you said, they are just the aggregate product of the moment from the coalition that makes up Republican-inclined voters.  


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on November 24, 2009, 02:10:59 AM
The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.

Let's look at Minnesota's Collin Peterson:

(1) Yes, he did vote against the Stimulus.
(2) Yes, voted against the health care bill
(3) He initially did speak against cap and trade and said he would oppose any such bill though he did work out a compromise with Waxman and has agreed to support the current plan though. Which makes it a No by Republican standards.
(4) Looks like he made some procedural vote against a predecessor to EFCA in the past. So Yes.
(5) Yes.
(6) No.
(7) Once again depends on definition. But he has said he would oppose any war with Iran, so let's say no.
(8) Yes.
(9) Yes.
(10) Yes.

So yeah, he has a 7 and is a committee chairman that no one is complaining about. This says a lot.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 24, 2009, 02:15:45 AM
The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.

Let's look at Minnesota's Collin Peterson:

(1) Yes, he did vote against the Stimulus.
(2) Yes, voted against the health care bill
(3) He initially did speak against cap and trade and said he would oppose any such bill though he did work out a compromise with Waxman and has agreed to support the current plan though. Which makes it a No by Republican standards.
(4) Looks like he made some procedural vote against a predecessor to EFCA in the past. So Yes.
(5) Yes.
(6) No.
(7) Once again depends on definition. But he has said he would oppose any war with Iran, so let's say no.
(8) Yes.
(9) Yes.
(10) Yes.

So yeah, he has a 7 and is a committee chairman that no one is complaining about. This says a lot.

The sad thing is that if he's got a committee chairmanship with a 7, there are definitely some at least rank and file Congressmen with an 8 or more. I'm sure that Dan Boren qualifies for the narrow tent of ideological extremists. The political spectrum among major Oklahoma politicians might be something like this
10: Republican
9: Independent or Democrat
8: Democrat
7: Radical communist


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Sbane on November 24, 2009, 03:47:30 AM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

Carbon is being treated as just any other finite resource and being traded in the marketplace. This is what would be "market based energy reforms". I don't see a more market based reform to curb carbon emissions. FTR I oppose cap and trade but I was just pointing out the inanity of that statement.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Ebowed on November 24, 2009, 06:12:51 AM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

No.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

LOL

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Just no.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

Oh definitely not.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

LOL

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Not at all.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 24, 2009, 09:20:54 AM


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 24, 2009, 09:24:20 AM
I would pass with 8 out of 10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Hash on November 24, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

No. Also, drop the 'small government' act now, plz.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

No. I don't support fake 'reform'

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Absolutely not. I don't support fake 'reform'.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Lean yes, because I pretty much loathe unions but not in the GOP's OMG COMMIES way.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No. We won't win, so drop the act.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Vague, but no.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No. I'm not a bigot.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

not this sh**t again. No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Absolutely not.

1/10.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Franzl on November 24, 2009, 09:43:01 AM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

In theory, I suppose, but not the way they mean it. No.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

No.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Yes.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No. Very hateful rhetoric there.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

I wouldn't use those words. "Victory" and "Winning" are stupid, but I do support stability in the region. As far as Afghanistan is concerned, yes, I would support an increase in the number of troops there, therefore: Yes.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Depends what you mean by "effective action". I think it's important to keep nuclear weapons out of their hands, but I don't support intervening militarily at this time. So I guess I'd have to say: Yes, somewhat.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

Never. No.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

No.

2.5 / 10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 24, 2009, 10:08:39 AM

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

...yes and no...so I answer No

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

yes

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

yes

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

yes

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

yes

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

no...should play hit and run instead

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

yes

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

yes

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

yes

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

yes



Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Joe Republic on November 24, 2009, 10:20:08 AM
Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!
Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 24, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
Not looking good:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 24, 2009, 10:31:49 AM
Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!
Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.


CARL wont be happy unless everyone passes the purity test with no questions asked.  ::)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: LBJ Revivalist on November 24, 2009, 10:41:08 AM
Not looking good:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Looks like the GOP has left you.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on November 24, 2009, 10:46:05 AM
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

yes

actually, not so sure the GOP would like my energy solutions:
1) raise mileage standards to 40MPG by 2017
2) Build 50 new nuclear power plants by 2020
3) 80% of new cars to run on nat gas and/or electricity by 2020, 100% by 2030...50% of new 18 wheelers to run on nat gas by 2017, all new 18 wheelers to run on nat gas by 2020
4) build nat gas fueling infrastructure
5) drill like crazy

that is NOT cap and trade, but it ain't exactly market based either...but it would drastically cut foreign oil imports


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: MODU on November 24, 2009, 01:49:55 PM

When did they put out this nonsense?  Talk about cutting your nose off.  Anyway...

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill; -- In general, "smaller government" is best.  However, there are aspects of the government that needs to be larger and other aspects that need to be removed all together.  Yes in regards to the national debt and deficits and taxes.  You can't oppose the stimulus bill 9 months after it was enacted.  However, the stimulus bill that was pasted was a complete waste of time, money, and effort, especially when those funds could have been used towards more beneficial long-term NATIONAL projects (since we are talking about federal funds and not state funds).

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care; -- Too general.  Market-based is best, but you need better (and more clear) government regulations.  All this nonsense about insurance companies denying patients coverage and care (for example) can be cleared by simply passing legislation saying insurance companies cannot deny the patients.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation; -- Two separate issues.  Cap and trade, while "market-based" is a government program that impacts the ability for energy producers to produce in a free-market system.  However, since most of these providers are authorized local monopolies, you dealing with muddy waters to begin with.  With that said, I disagree.  Going back to point one and tying it in with the hydrogen initiative, this is where the funds spent on the worthless stimulus pet projects should have been divered to.  Building new nuclear reactors and hydrogen production sites would have created real, lasting jobs across the country and would provide a return on investment through taxes over the life-span of the power plants.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check; -- Yes.  Card check is a stupid concept and only serves as a bullying ploy by the dying unions.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants; -- Yes.  The problem is the classification of "amnesty."  You have 10+ Million illegals running around the country right now.  Where does amnesty end and heavily penalizing illegals so they can buy their way into legal status or be deported begin?

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges; -- It can't be a military-recommended-only solution.  Stupid Steele.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat; -- "effective action?"  Care to define that?

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act; -- The states are the ones who should define what a marriage is.  The problem is when you start dealing with interstate commerce.  If one state recognizes gay marriage and the insurance companies in that state offer coverage for the couple, but they move to another state that doesn't recognize the marriage and/or can't obtain insurance coverage, the persons are left in limbo.  For this reason I support a national definition.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and -- There shouldn't be government funding of abortions in any case (unless it happens on a military base), even if the person is on welfare.  It should be picked up by the state.  But even in that case, it should be provided in cases of rape, incest, or threat to mothers life.  Elective procedures should be out of pocket.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership. -- Since I think the government has the right to limit certain types of weapons from general sales as well as establish screening regulations before obtaining a permit, this statement is too vauge to support.

I guess I'd be a bad republican.


Why 8 of the 10? Because Ronald Reagan once said "that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent." Makes perfect sense.
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Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on November 24, 2009, 02:13:28 PM

That's very sad.

Most people I know support legal immigration.

What makes you oppose legal immigration.

Or is it that you support open borders?


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 24, 2009, 02:19:39 PM

That's very sad.

Most people I know support legal immigration.

What makes you oppose legal immigration.

Or is it that you support open borders?

What do you propose we do with the illegals in the country now, CARL?  If not amnesty, what?  Do you think we have the rescources to toss them all out? 


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on November 24, 2009, 02:32:30 PM

That's very sad.

Most people I know support legal immigration.

What makes you oppose legal immigration.

Or is it that you support open borders?

What do you propose we do with the illegals in the country now, CARL?  If not amnesty, what?  Do you think we have the rescources to toss them all out? 

First, I want to thank you for admitting the issue is amnesty and not trying some double-talk.

Second, let me further suggest that you argument consists of what logicians call the fallacy of the excluded middle.  To give you an example: simply because we do not catch all those who commit violent mala in se felonies does not mean we should stop seeking to apprehend, try and convict as many of such felons as is feasible.

Third, a gradualist approach is working at this time.  The number of illegal aliens in the United States id down from 2006 (when the Bush-McCain amnesty was proposed) for a number of reasons, including enforcement of laws which have been on the books for decades!  Unfortunately, such enforcement is NOT robust at this time, but can be largely implemented at relatively low cost (which is my solution).  If you want, I can go on to considerable length and detail describing this approach.

Fourth, there are still several hundred miles of the sourthern land border which the Obama administration admits is NOT under control.  Unfortunately, the budget for the current fiscal year does NOT provide for any additional security on the southern border (believe it or not, the expenditures are being sent to the Canadian land border).  To keep the situation from getting worse (which it will if amnesty is granted), lets really work to secure the border.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on November 24, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
7.5 out of 10, do we round up or does everyone with a 7.9999 or lower have to go become a Democrat?


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 24, 2009, 05:27:48 PM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!

No, the carbon tax, which is the progressive solution, is a government imposed tax. Cap and trade is a conservative idea.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: k-onmmunist on November 24, 2009, 05:30:21 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;


(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.


6 out of 10.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Vepres on November 24, 2009, 05:30:32 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

Yes

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(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

Yes

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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No

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(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Yes

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(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

Partially No

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(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

Partially Yes

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(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No

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(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No

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(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

Mostly Yes (disagree with abortion part)

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(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Yes



5.75 out of 10

Better register with the Green party then!


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2009, 06:03:41 PM
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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!

No, the carbon tax, which is the progressive solution, is a government imposed tax. Cap and trade is a conservative idea.

Whether cap and trade is a tax or not, it raises the cost of carbon based energy, because an artificial scarcity is created. It is only justified if 1) carbon really is a negative externality that should be paid for, 2) the economy right now can stand the shock of a critical set of inputs increasing in price due to a government fiat mandated scarcity, and 3) it really will make some affective difference given that China and India are just discovering their love of big time energy consumption.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 24, 2009, 06:24:49 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 24, 2009, 06:39:32 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;


(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;


(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.



Am I a good Republican? I agree with 7/10, bolded is what I agree. 5 and 10 were a bit vague, so I left them unbolded. I support the right to bear arms, just support background checks. As for Immigration, I support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and wish to make the English language an official language.

Somebody needs to answer my question.... :(


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Scam of God on November 24, 2009, 07:14:36 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Awe, isn't that adorable? The wittle populist is melding working-class xenophobia with nationalist populism in an attempt to create an alterno-socialism that appeals to workers without having to do anything about their economic situation.

Give it up, friend. Conservatism and populism of any stripe do not mix.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on November 24, 2009, 07:23:21 PM
9 out of 10!


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mint on November 24, 2009, 07:25:15 PM

What was the one exception?


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 24, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
5/10. I was close.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: War on Want on November 24, 2009, 07:35:14 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.
My Dad works in the construction industry as a worker and is white. He supports a path of citizenship for illegal immigrants. It's pretty easy not be xenophobic even if it goes against your interests. So basically I'm "living a day in your shoes" every day because he's out of work. Not that your claims about amnesty creating an economic genocide are true.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 24, 2009, 07:43:49 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on November 24, 2009, 07:57:10 PM
Stupid concept and a ridiculous list created by those that make up the worst aspects of the Republican Party.  Embarrassing to say the least.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mint on November 24, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Stupid concept and a ridiculous list created by those that make up the worst aspects of the Republican Party.  Embarrassing to say the least.

I love how they dropped in the Reagan quote at the end. Good for a few laughs since he wouldn't even fit their 'standards' now, not that it improves my opinion of him.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 24, 2009, 11:19:47 PM

Apparently that was my score, and it says something about why my political anchor is not at present moored as it were.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lunar on November 24, 2009, 11:49:06 PM

Apparently that was my score, and it says something about why my political anchor is not at present moored as it were.

I think it mostly says something about how gay that list of principles is. 


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: nhmagic on November 25, 2009, 12:38:33 AM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill; - 100% Yes

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care; - Yes

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation; - Yes

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check; - Yes

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants; - Yes

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges; - Yes

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat; - Yes

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act; - No

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and - Yes, especially the abortion part, its murder

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership. - Yeppers

9/10, not bad


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CatoMinor on November 25, 2009, 01:08:46 AM
7.5/10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on November 25, 2009, 02:45:40 AM
1. no
2. no
3. uh, cap and trade is a market-based energy reform. So I guess no.
4. no
5. I think illegals who are already here should be allowed to stay, provided they are willing to learn English, pay a fine, and have committed no crimes in addition to entering the U.S. illegally. I favor an increase in legal immigration and an overhaul of the system in a way that would increase immigration overall, so probably no by the standards of the people who designed this test.
6. somewhat agree, we can't leave Iraq and Afghanistan, but putting in more American troops who don't understand the language and culture is not the best option. Iraq's turn-around had relatively little to do with the surge, and Afghanistan would be doing far better had we not gone into Iraq. I'll say somewhat agree.
7. No, since the way the question is phrased, "effective action" seems to be a code word for military action.
8. no
9. no
10. yes, but gun control is a dead issue this is a trite scare tactic

so 1.5/10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: dead0man on November 25, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
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(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;
Why should anyone believe you?  You are against Obama much more than you are for smaller govt.

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(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;
Again, you're just opposing Obama, you don't really care.

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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
sure

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(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
sure

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(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
Bull sh**t.  Close the border and let a lot more people in the legal way.  I don't care if immigrants assimilate or not.  I don't care if they stay or go home.  But we can't allow people to come and go as they please.  Borders must be defined and protected.

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(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
..and just like Dems you support keeping thousands of troops in Germany, UK and Japan (and likely Iraq and Afghanistan too) indefinitely.

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(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
sure

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(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
Anti-freedom things such as this is what will always keep me away from the GOP.

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(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
....

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(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.
of course

I agree with them and (sort of) believe them on 4 of the 10.  I agree, but think they are full of sh**t on another 4.  One is unimportant to me and one is an abomination to liberty.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Democratic Hawk on November 25, 2009, 08:37:07 AM

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

No. Furthermore, the Republican record on national debt and deficits, compared with Democrats, is appalling and it has been since the curtains came down on the Golden Age of Capitalism. Lets look at the FACTS:

1. Carter (1978-1981), the federal debt decreased  by 0.4%. As a % of GDP, the federal debt decreased  from 35.8% to 32.6%

2. Reagan (1982- 1989), the federal debt increased  by 90.1%. As a % of GDP, the federal debt increased  from 32.6% to 53.1%

3. Bush 41 (1989-1993), the federal debt increased  by 13.2%, As a % of GDP, the federal debt increased  from 53.1% to 66.2%

4. Clinton (1994-2001), the federal debt increased  by 13%. As a % of GDP, the federal debt decreased  from 66.2% to 57.4%

5. Bush (2002-2009), as a % of GDP, the federal debt increased  from 57.4% to 75.5%.

At present, Republicans are committed to extending the fiscally reckless Bush tax cuts in their entirety, in addition to a further $3 trillion in WEALTHFARE tax cuts which will do nothing to reduce 1) the deficit or 2) the federal debt (if the Republican track record, post-1973, is anything to go by). By contrast, the modest increase in spending, both as a consequence of and having to confront the worst economic downturn since the 'Great Depression' and the WORKFARE :) tax cuts enacted by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, is small fish.

Both Reagan and Bush 41 signed off on tax increases to confront the deficit, but not to much avail since the tax burden fell on the middle and working classes who were not the primary beneficiaries of the supply-side tax cuts, which contributed towards the deficit. Clinton, of course, in order to confront the deficit modestly increased taxes on the wealthiest and, evidently, with much success :)

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(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

No. Not that it actually will be government run health care, of course

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(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No. Furthermore, cap and trade is a market based solution

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(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Yes (and I'm pro-labor)

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(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No. I support a pathway to citizenship. Better to have these people, who face it have only came to America, to make a better life for themselves and their families, contributing inside the system

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(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

Yes

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(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Yes - and this is, essentially, true of the Democratic Party

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(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

Neutral

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(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

Rationing is just more scaremongering bullsh**t, while the status quo has been using the flimsiest of excuses to deny access to healthcare for years. I agree with regards to abortion

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(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Yes

4.333/10. Not that I was ever going to pass the Republican putridity  ::) test


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Devilman88 on November 25, 2009, 10:33:25 AM
I don't agree with, 8 and somewhat 3. So I guess I pass. :)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on November 25, 2009, 11:29:44 AM

i oppose the defense of marriage act, but not passionately enough where it's an issue to me.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: anvi on November 25, 2009, 11:52:45 AM

Apparently that was my score, and it says something about why my political anchor is not at present moored as it were.

Torie, I don't know which party to identify you with, but despite my disagreement with you on 2, if you ever ran for office, you'd get at least one Democratic vote...mine.

As for the list of purity qualifications, it's bogus, just like any wishlist of Democratic feel-good slogans would be. 



 


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 25, 2009, 04:54:12 PM

Apparently that was my score, and it says something about why my political anchor is not at present moored as it were.

Torie, I don't know which party to identify you with, but despite my disagreement with you on 2, if you ever ran for office, you'd get at least one Democratic vote...mine.

As for the list of purity qualifications, it's bogus, just like any wishlist of Democratic feel-good slogans would be. 



 

Thanks for the generous words; I appreciate it. :)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 25, 2009, 05:30:58 PM

Apparently that was my score, and it says something about why my political anchor is not at present moored as it were.

I think it mostly says something about how gay that list of principles is. 

Is it still politically correct to use the word "gay" as a pejorative in this context?  Given your station in academia at the moment, you do know that failing to be politically correct can be dangerous to future prospects don't you? Not everyone can "afford" to just let it all hang out, such as for example moi. Eat your heart out Lunar; I just know you are consumed with jealousy over this.  :P


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Frodo on November 27, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
I never would, even back in the day when I considered myself a Republican.  I agree with, at most, maybe two or three statements on that list. 


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on November 27, 2009, 11:37:53 AM
I'm only half in agreement on the foreign policy ones, so 8/10


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: frihetsivrare on November 28, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;
Agree

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;
Agree

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
Strongly agree

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
Agree

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
Not much of an issue for me

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
Strongly disagree

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
Disagree

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
Disagree, there should be no law at all, banning or allowing

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
Agree

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.
Strongly agree

I agree with six statements, disagree with three, don't really care about one.

In regard to smaller government and lower national debt, I suppose I am against the modern Republican record.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 28, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;


(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;


(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.



Am I a good Republican? I agree with 7/10, bolded is what I agree. 5 and 10 were a bit vague, so I left them unbolded. I support the right to bear arms, just support background checks. As for Immigration, I support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and wish to make the English language an official language.

Somebody needs to answer my question.... :(

DO I BELONG OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And by the way, frihetsivrare, I agree with your position on Gay marriage.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 29, 2009, 10:51:29 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;


(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;


(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.



Am I a good Republican? I agree with 7/10, bolded is what I agree. 5 and 10 were a bit vague, so I left them unbolded. I support the right to bear arms, just support background checks. As for Immigration, I support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and wish to make the English language an official language.

Somebody needs to answer my question.... :(

DO I BELONG OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And by the way, frihetsivrare, I agree with your position on Gay marriage.

You have to answer that question yourself. :P


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on November 29, 2009, 11:05:17 PM
9/10

:D


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on November 29, 2009, 11:08:02 PM

i oppose the defense of marriage act, but not passionately enough where it's an issue to me.

same as me ha


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 29, 2009, 11:18:05 PM
     The thing I found curious about #9 is the "denial of health care" part. I wonder if that just continues on the rationing part or if it refers to something separate. Health care is not an issue that I am as familiar with as I probably should be.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 30, 2009, 12:02:24 AM
    The thing I found curious about #9 is the "denial of health care" part. I wonder if that just continues on the rationing part or if it refers to something separate. Health care is not an issue that I am as familiar with as I probably should be.

Apparently, they support universal health care.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Torie on November 30, 2009, 12:16:13 AM
     The thing I found curious about #9 is the "denial of health care" part. I wonder if that just continues on the rationing part or if it refers to something separate. Health care is not an issue that I am as familiar with as I probably should be.

The Dem plan to balance the books PiT posits slashing medicare spending my 350 billion over 10 years or something. The GOP is telling seniors that as a talking point, and thus it is on the list, using the rationing word - oh the horror, the horror! 


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 30, 2009, 01:03:00 AM
     The thing I found curious about #9 is the "denial of health care" part. I wonder if that just continues on the rationing part or if it refers to something separate. Health care is not an issue that I am as familiar with as I probably should be.

The Dem plan to balance the books PiT posits slashing medicare spending my 350 billion over 10 years or something. The GOP is telling seniors that as a talking point, and thus it is on the list, using the rationing word - oh the horror, the horror! 

     Ah yes. The Republicans have discovered that it's quite easy to like something when it can help them defeat something else they dislike. It helps when it's not currently a contentious issue.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 30, 2009, 01:07:14 AM
People that disagree with #4 disgust me and are the reason I'm wary of being a 100% loyal Democrat.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: big bad fab on November 30, 2009, 05:15:02 AM
5.5/10 or 6/10 if you wish.

I only agree with 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and half agree with 1 (something needs to be one in emergency, but not exactly that...).


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 30, 2009, 09:01:53 AM

Nope, other way around.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lahbas on November 30, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
I agree with everything except 1 and 2. I disagree with 2 because, while I do not support the present Health Care plans, I realize we will need to reform in some way that guarantees universal coverage. At the same time, while I DO support small government, including getting rid of useless programs, my position on 2 largely makes that argument moot.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 30, 2009, 06:09:18 PM
No and neither does Reagan.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Vepres on November 30, 2009, 06:37:26 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.


They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.


Yeah, he'd get a 5 or 6 at best, but perhaps that's why he was a good leader ;)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mechaman on November 30, 2009, 06:42:43 PM
(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;
Not bad, check

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;
First, it's not entirely government run helath care, it's PUBLIC OPTION. Though I'm undecided on this, I'll vote yes for the purposes of this thread.
2

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
Cap and Trade is market based (to an extent) but I agree, it is pretty f***ing stupid.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
I seriously don't understand what is the big whohaw about secret ballots, I mean really have you heard of the freedom of privacy for god's sake. Mega agree
That is 3 serious "yes" votes so far.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
How does a resounding "hell no" sound to you?
1 No, 1 hesistant yes, and 3 serious yes

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
Strongly disagree, victory would be to stop sending thousands of young men and women to their deaths and to stop wasting hundreds of millions of dollars in pursuit of an illogical war in Iraq. Afghanistan? That's kind of a grey area.
2 Nos, 1 hesitant yes, and 3 serious yes

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
Because third world cracker barrel nations pose a serious threat to American sovereignty and are stupid enough to wage World War III? My ass they are.
3 Nos, 1 hesitant yes, and 3 serious yes.
Oh look I already failed the test!

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
Hells to the no, the government has no business legislating morality or marriage
4 Nos, 1 hesitant yes, and 3 serious yes.
That means if I were to include the hesitant yes right now I'm only 50% Republican

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
Undecided, though let it be known that we are not even discussing a Single-Payer system we are only discussing PUBLIC OPTION!
However, I would mostly oppose such a view, so I guess another hesitant "yes"
4 Nos, 2 hesitant yes, and 3 serious yes.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.
Hell yes, I'm not going to even address why this should even be an issue.
4 Nos, 2 hesitant yes, and 4 serious yes

Shockingly I seriously agree 40% of the time with Republicans, 20% I hesitantly agree, making it 60% agreement with the Republican Party. Shocking.

Why 8 of the 10? Because Ronald Reagan once said "that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent." Makes perfect sense.

Hell, Reagan could fail this test.
See Options 1, 5, and even 8 or 10 if I wanted to be real generous (look at his record as governor of California and his daughter's recollection of how he described homosexual Hollywood actors, plus didn't Reagan sign some gun control legislation? I could be wrong.....). Hell I might've missed some.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Rob on November 30, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Watch out, everyone! According to the poll results, there are ten teabaggers on Atlas. Sleep with one eye open.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mint on November 30, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.


They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

Besides the reality that a guest worker program would basically formalize migrants as an official 2nd class citizen class you might want to look at the bracero program and how splendidly that was at curbing illegal immigration (hint: it didn't).


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Vepres on November 30, 2009, 07:44:07 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.


They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

Besides the reality that a guest worker program would basically formalize migrants as an official 2nd class citizen class you might want to look at the bracero program and how splendidly that was at curbing illegal immigration (hint: it didn't).

Those Indians with VISAs do pretty well ;)


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 30, 2009, 07:53:14 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.

They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

The fact that there's been "economic genocide" is a good reason to oppose closed borders. But a guest worker program is no good. Allow legal immigration quickly and easily to any non-criminals. They'll stop coming when there aren't jobs.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Vepres on November 30, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.

They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

The fact that there's been "economic genocide" is a good reason to oppose closed borders. But a guest worker program is no good. Allow legal immigration quickly and easily to any non-criminals. They'll stop coming when there aren't jobs.

What's wrong with a guest worker program? Many of the illegals here just want to work for a few years and then return to their home countries.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mint on November 30, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.

They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

The fact that there's been "economic genocide" is a good reason to oppose closed borders. But a guest worker program is no good. Allow legal immigration quickly and easily to any non-criminals. They'll stop coming when there aren't jobs.
They've already begun to do that, statistics show a huge drop off in influxes. Beyond that I half-agree, we need more skilled laborers and a visa system that makes sense but I don't think letting in tons of uneducated migrants is a good idea.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 30, 2009, 08:30:22 PM
Its easy for upper class people and liberals to oppose number 5. Come live a day in my shoes and see what kind of an economic genocide you are creating with your political correctness.

Economic genocide?

If there weren't jobs there, people wouldn't come.

They take jobs that wold normally go to Americans because they work below minimum wage. With 10% unemployment, the argument of "they take jobs Americans won't do" is complete BS.

But that's why I support a guest worker program and path to citizenship, because then they have to be paid minimum wage and thus there is a level playing field.

The fact that there's been "economic genocide" is a good reason to oppose closed borders. But a guest worker program is no good. Allow legal immigration quickly and easily to any non-criminals. They'll stop coming when there aren't jobs.

What's wrong with a guest worker program? Many of the illegals here just want to work for a few years and then return to their home countries.

It leads to guest workers being considered second-class. If they wish to return, they can emigrate again.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Mint on November 30, 2009, 08:39:24 PM
Honestly go take a look at France right now or a good chunk of west europe for an idea of what that sort of arrangement actually does to everyone involved.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Gustaf on December 01, 2009, 05:51:17 AM
Most of these are talking points that one can neither agree nor disagree with.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Lunar on December 01, 2009, 07:15:13 AM
Most of these are talking points that one can neither agree nor disagree with.

Their actually policy implications, the purpose behind the questions, are each very clear though.  It's really just a matter of each question asking about the stimulus, health care, cap-n-trade, amnesty, troop surges, gay marriage, etc.  The writers' of the questions obviously did not want to narrow each question now so much, so they took each policy and wrote a partially abstract version of it.  All pretty simple, I think...but it's pretty clear what they are asking.  "Are you going to step into the Republican fold on such-and-such issue or not?"

The problem isn't with the actual questions, as ridiculous as they may be.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Eraserhead on December 01, 2009, 07:43:28 AM
What do you think?


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Supersonic on September 07, 2012, 12:03:10 PM
A resolution is being circulated by RNC members which calls for candidates to support at least 8 of the 10 items listed below or face action by the RNC:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

9/10. I only disagree with the DOMA plank. DOMA should be altered to allow federal benefits to states that allow civil unions or gay marriage.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on September 07, 2012, 12:06:18 PM
The only one I can say that I support with absolute certainty is 4.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: 後援会 on September 07, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
A resolution is being circulated by RNC members which calls for candidates to support at least 8 of the 10 items listed below or face action by the RNC:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

I can stretch my views to support 8/10. I'm a no on #8, and #6, and I could probably argue successfully that 1, 2, 5, 7, and 10 fit. Probably.

Seriously, this isn't a very impressive purity test. Most people can stretch their views or frame them in a way that lets them make it past it.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 07, 2012, 12:22:54 PM
2/10. -_-


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 07, 2012, 01:01:04 PM

And 3, partly.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Donerail on September 07, 2012, 03:10:41 PM
1, 2, and 10.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on September 07, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
Quote
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Um Cap and Trade is a government based solution thus this statement is correct

8/10 no on 6 and 7


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: 後援会 on September 07, 2012, 06:24:39 PM

You're a libertarian who supports gun control, the stimulus, and Obamacare? What the...


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: CatoMinor on September 07, 2012, 06:26:33 PM
5/5


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Donerail on September 07, 2012, 08:52:55 PM

You're a libertarian who supports gun control, the stimulus, and Obamacare? What the...

1 was the stimulus, 2 was Obamacare, and 10 was gun control. I oppose those three, which is why I put those items as the ones I passed the test on.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Simfan34 on September 08, 2012, 08:59:54 AM
Quote
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

This is right.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Redalgo on September 08, 2012, 12:50:07 PM
For whatever it's worth, I actually don't know what #4 is supposed to mean. So either I get 1/10 or 0/10 on this purity test.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on September 09, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
For whatever it's worth, I actually don't know what #4 is supposed to mean. So either I get 1/10 or 0/10 on this purity test.

According to Wikipedia, card check is a unionization method where a bunch of employees at a plant sign these card things, and if more than 50% of them sign, the employer has to recognize the union.

I got 1/10 (I support #7).


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: AkSaber on September 10, 2012, 08:41:42 PM
7/10.

No to 6, 7, and 8.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 12:29:46 AM
Quote
(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Um Cap and Trade is a government based solution thus this statement is correct

8/10 no on 6 and 7

It is a government-mandated market solution.


Title: Re: Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 11, 2012, 12:38:49 AM
Also, one should note that many Republicans already supported cap and trade legislation for nitrogen oxides and sulfur dioxide, including many prominent Republicans of today.