Title: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Bo on December 21, 2009, 04:21:11 PM (Gary Johnson and other fringe candidates do not count)
Strongest: Romney, followed by Pawlenty. Weakest: Palin, followed by Huckabee. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 21, 2009, 04:23:21 PM Strongest: Gary Johnson
Weakest: Tim Pawlenty I didn't count fringe candidates like Suckabee. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Phony Moderate on December 21, 2009, 04:25:40 PM Strongest: Alan Keyes
Weakest: Barack Obama Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: CatoMinor on December 21, 2009, 04:25:59 PM Strongest: Johnson
Weakest: barbour Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: ConservativeIllini on December 21, 2009, 04:35:58 PM Strongest: Romney, followed by Thune
Weakest: Palin, followed by Barbour/Bush Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 21, 2009, 04:58:36 PM Strongest: Huckabee
Weakest: Romney Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 21, 2009, 04:59:59 PM Strongest: Pawlenty
Weakest: Johnson Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Devilman88 on December 21, 2009, 05:01:55 PM Strongest: Johnson, Thune
Weakest: Huckabee, Romney. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: tmthforu94 on December 21, 2009, 05:14:37 PM Strongest: Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels
Weakest: Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckabee Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 21, 2009, 05:15:18 PM Strongest: Mitt Romney
Weakest: Newt Gingrich Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: War on Want on December 21, 2009, 05:22:17 PM Strongest: Romney, Thune
Weakest: Palin, Johnson Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on December 21, 2009, 05:27:10 PM Strongest: Romney, Huckabee
Weakest: Palin, Gingrich Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 21, 2009, 05:29:43 PM Strongest: Romney, Huckabee Weakest: Palin, Gingrich From you that is quite surprising. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: nhmagic on December 21, 2009, 05:57:04 PM Strongest: Palin, Daniels, and anyone who takes up the Ron Paul mantle
Weakest: Romney, Huckabee Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: pbrower2a on December 21, 2009, 06:13:32 PM Strongest: Romney (can win if Obama is a disaster)
Weakest: tie between Palin (insane) and Barbour (too regional). Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Poundingtherock on December 21, 2009, 06:36:21 PM Strongest: Palin (within 3-6 points of Obama despite a fairly tough year)
Weakest: Romney (Blanche Lincoln disease: Republicans and conservatives think he's too liberal/moderate, everyone else thinks he's too conservative) Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Zarn on December 21, 2009, 11:38:12 PM Strongest: Johnson
Weakest: Palin/ Huckabee Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 22, 2009, 01:24:48 AM Strongest: Romney or Pawlenty
Weakest: Palin, Barbour, Cheney Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: useful idiot on December 22, 2009, 01:37:25 AM In terms of being an articulate and intelligent spokesman for conservative ideals, knowing that they're going to lose and therefore using the campaign as a rallying cry to be heard for a generation (ala Godwater 64):
Strongest: Santorum Weakest: Pawlenty, Romney or Palin; the first because he's bland and boring, the second because he's both boring and unprincipled, the third because she's too dumb to screw in a lightbulb In terms of electoral success: Strongest: Johnson Weakest: Palin Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidate Post by: Stranger in a strange land on December 22, 2009, 01:44:28 AM strongest: Romney, his only problem is that a not-insignificant portion of the Republican base hates him (go on Free Republic and see what they have to say about him there), but the rest of the field is extremely weak and the religious/radio right will probably divide itself among 3 or 4 candidates.
weakest: Palin - lots of baggage and a messy family life Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidate Post by: GLPman on December 22, 2009, 02:01:04 AM Strongest: Romney and Thune
Weakest: Palin Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidate Post by: tarheel-leftist85 on December 22, 2009, 02:02:23 AM Out of Huck, Palin, Romney, Pawlenty, Daniels, Gingrich
Strongest: Huck, followed by Palin Weakest: Romney and Gingrich Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: JSojourner on December 22, 2009, 06:37:02 PM Strongest in terms of funding? Romney. And if money wins primaries, we have a nominee.
Strongest in terms of appeal to the extreme right? Thune, Pence or Barbour. Weakest in terms of political baggage? Palin and Huck (the embarrassment factor) Weakest in terms of persona and image? Pawlenty (dull) Newt (asshole) Weakest in terms of appeal to the extreme right? Johnson, Giuliani Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: California8429 on December 23, 2009, 03:51:15 PM Strongest: Romney, then Pawlenty, then Thune, then Huckabee, then Gingrich
Weakest: Palin, then Johnson Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Deldem on December 23, 2009, 07:49:39 PM Strongest- Pawlenty. Governed a Democratic-leaning state for two terms.
Weakest- Huckabee. Crazy, governed a state most people view negatively. Also, scary to the non-base. In between: Romney- Would be strongest, but people are bigots and may vote against him solely because he is a Mormon. Palin- Like Huckabee, but with a little more stupid and a little less crazy. She only gets the edge because Alaska's image is a little better than Arkansas'. Also, she may not even run, and if she does, she'll mostly be doing it for the book deal. Johnson- Nonfactor, since he's like Paul with even less name recognition. Newt- Smartest of the bunch, but also thoroughly unlikeable. Thune- From small state, so not well known. However, he did beat Tom Daschle. While this won't help him at all in the general, this possibly could give him a chance in the primaries. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: CatoMinor on December 23, 2009, 08:11:28 PM Strongest- Pawlenty. Governed a Democratic-leaning state for two terms. Weakest- Huckabee. Crazy, governed a state most people view negatively. Also, scary to the non-base. In between: Romney- Would be strongest, but people are bigots and may vote against him solely because he is a Mormon. Palin- Like Huckabee, but with a little more stupid and a little less crazy. She only gets the edge because Alaska's image is a little better than Arkansas'. Also, she may not even run, and if she does, she'll mostly be doing it for the book deal. Johnson- Nonfactor, since he's like Paul with even less name recognition. Newt- Smartest of the bunch, but also thoroughly unlikeable. Thune- From small state, so not well known. However, he did beat Tom Daschle. While this won't help him at all in the general, this possibly could give him a chance in the primaries. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidate Post by: Magic 8-Ball on December 23, 2009, 08:56:25 PM Strongest- Pawlenty. Governed a Democratic-leaning state for two terms. Weakest- Huckabee. Crazy, governed a state most people view negatively. Also, scary to the non-base. In between: Romney- Would be strongest, but people are bigots and may vote against him solely because he is a Mormon. Palin- Like Huckabee, but with a little more stupid and a little less crazy. She only gets the edge because Alaska's image is a little better than Arkansas'. Also, she may not even run, and if she does, she'll mostly be doing it for the book deal. Johnson- Nonfactor, since he's like Paul with even less name recognition. Newt- Smartest of the bunch, but also thoroughly unlikeable. Thune- From small state, so not well known. However, he did beat Tom Daschle. While this won't help him at all in the general, this possibly could give him a chance in the primaries. He rode a wave in 1994 and gubernatorial elections generally aren't as ideological as, say, senatorial elections. It's not uncommon for a Republican to get elected in a predominately Democratic state, and vice versa. One Republican or another, for example, has been governor of Massachsetts for 17 of the last 30 years. Look at Weld's reelection percentage. Do you think that he would win the Republican nomination? Winning the presidency - hell, even the nomination - is an entirely different animal. Once his views on things like the legalization of marijuana becomes fodder - and you better believe that Romney, Pawlenty, and the like will carpet-bomb early states during the primary - what little support will have amongst the elderly who constitute the lion's share of your party's primary voters will drop like a stone. We don't say Johnson's a non-factor to annoy you or because we're forgetful; we do so because he's a non-factor. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Dr. Cynic on December 23, 2009, 09:03:01 PM Strongest: Pawlenty
Weakest: Palin Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: evan bayh on December 28, 2009, 07:32:31 AM STRONGEST:palin and thune
WEAKEST:pawlenty,gingrich Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Senator Robert A. Taft on December 30, 2009, 03:08:12 PM As much as I like Gary Johnson, he stands little chance of winning the nomination. A candidate that actually cares about personal freedoms has no chance in today's Republican Party. It's sad, but true.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: ShadowRocket on December 30, 2009, 04:17:05 PM Strongest: Pawlenty
Weakest: Palin Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Vosem on December 30, 2009, 06:34:41 PM Strongest: Mitt Romney Weakest: Michele Bachmann Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 23, 2010, 04:37:43 PM Strongest right now: Romney because no one else is out there raising money, followed by Palin
Weakest right now: Huckabee because he can't run while he is on tv Strongest in the future: Thune, after he wins re-election, he will devote full-time to Iowa. Weakest in the future: Romney, voters will find someone they like better; Palin because she won't be able to raise money. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Anthony on February 23, 2010, 08:22:36 PM Strongest candidates:
Huckabee (I know many people on this forum will disagree with this, but from what I've seen, he is leading in many polls for the primaries, and polls also show that he is the strongest candidate to go against Obama.) Romney (has the potential to appeal to moderates and independents, unlike certain other Republican candidates.) Pawlenty (same reasons as Romney.) Barbour (is a very skilled politician, and has the potential to appeal to the GOP's southern base.) Weakest: Palin (polls show she is the weakest of the most likely presidential candidates to go against Obama. Not to mention that it is likely that she would once again have to deal with Saturday Night Live poking fun at her each week during the campaign.) Santorum (another candidate who would likely be a weak candidate to go against Obama, and he also lost reelection to the Senate, which isn't a good thing to have while you're running for president.) Bachmann (same reasons as Santorum, except the part about losing reelection.) Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: ARescan on February 23, 2010, 10:44:04 PM Strongest: Pawlenty, followed by Thune
Weakest: Palin, followed by Romney and Johnson Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Oakvale on February 24, 2010, 09:23:38 AM Strongest: Huckabee, if the polls are to be believed.
Weakest: Ron Paul, followed by Palin. EDIT: Or Paul substitute Gary Johnson, if you prefer. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: tarheel-leftist85 on February 24, 2010, 04:17:32 PM Palin and Huckabee - Stongest
Romney - Weakest Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Guderian on February 24, 2010, 04:24:22 PM In order of strength:
Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Barbour, Paul. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 24, 2010, 04:32:41 PM In order of strength: Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Barbour, Paul. I would have had Daniels as a potential front-runner, but I don't think he really wants to run. I also think his ethnic background may hurt him, or voters may choose to ignore it. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: justW353 on February 24, 2010, 05:05:53 PM Strongest: Romney, Thune
Weakest: Palin Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: SvenssonRS on February 24, 2010, 05:19:14 PM Strongest: Huckabee(I honestly think he can overcome the whole clemency issue; it only backfired once), Daniels
Weakest: Palin, Barbour Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Anthony on February 24, 2010, 09:11:12 PM In order of strength: Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Barbour, Paul. I would have had Daniels as a potential front-runner, but I don't think he really wants to run. I also think his ethnic background may hurt him, or voters may choose to ignore it. Dude ... we have a black President named Barack Hussein Obama who was raised as a Muslim and has referred to his mother's atheism as "healthy skepticism". Mitch Daniels is not going to be hurt by the fact that his grandparents were Syrian Christians. Hold on a second. Last I checked, Obama was raised by his mother, and later after that, by his grandparents, all of whom were Christian, I believe. And even his father did not exactly practice Islam. Therefore, he was not raised as a Muslim. Obama himself explains it in this quote: Quote My father was from Kenya and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 24, 2010, 11:31:01 PM In order of strength: Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Barbour, Paul. I would have had Daniels as a potential front-runner, but I don't think he really wants to run. I also think his ethnic background may hurt him, or voters may choose to ignore it. Dude ... we have a black President named Barack Hussein Obama who was raised as a Muslim and has referred to his mother's atheism as "healthy skepticism". Mitch Daniels is not going to be hurt by the fact that his grandparents were Syrian Christians. That may well be, but we are talking about the Republican Primary, and most guys who are Southern Christians or War Heroes get preferential treatment. Daniels is a mild-mannered mid-westerner, will he be able to fight back in the primaries? Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 24, 2010, 11:35:19 PM In order of strength: Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Barbour, Paul. I would have had Daniels as a potential front-runner, but I don't think he really wants to run. I also think his ethnic background may hurt him, or voters may choose to ignore it. Dude ... we have a black President named Barack Hussein Obama who was raised as a Muslim and has referred to his mother's atheism as "healthy skepticism". Mitch Daniels is not going to be hurt by the fact that his grandparents were Syrian Christians. Hold on a second. Last I checked, Obama was raised by his mother, and later after that, by his grandparents, all of whom were Christian, I believe. And even his father did not exactly practice Islam. Therefore, he was not raised as a Muslim. Obama himself explains it in this quote: Quote My father was from Kenya and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam. Did Obama explore Islam during college? I remember he said he used to fast on Sundays, which is a muslim tradition. He said it cleansed his body and soul. He has a resounding Muslim name, and I think he should explore his father's roots and culture. He seems too intellectual to be religious, but I know he attends Church because he had a crazy pastor. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 25, 2010, 12:14:16 AM Fasting on Sundays is not in any sense a Muslim tradition.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Derek on February 25, 2010, 01:32:59 PM Well Ron Paul is the weakest candidate. The strongest is dependent upon the timing of the elections. I'd say Romney right now is the strongest.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 25, 2010, 01:49:46 PM Fasting on Sundays is not in any sense a Muslim tradition. I'm not sure why he fasted, but I wouldn't begrudge him to explore his father's faith. He was in college after all. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 25, 2010, 02:19:17 PM Of the people who are the "leading" candidates at this point, only Pawlenty seems electable. I think we've been through the Romney bit and he soiled his resume; Palin is unelectable at this point, barring some major accomplishment; Huckabee has been largely coopted by the Tea Party / libertarian growth in influence.
I don't think anyone else has established themselves quite yet. Personally, my early prediction for the GOP ticket in '12 is Pawlenty/Rubio. It fits the geography, the tone of the rhetoric at the moment (more Rubio than Pawlenty), two swingable states, Hispanic vote, etc. I could also see Cantor as a veep, but it's more of a longshot. Hoping somehow Paul Ryan gets on the ticket, though. I'd love to see Ryan/Rubio paired but it's way too early for that, 2016 or 2020 would make more sense for them together on a ticket. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: Anthony on February 25, 2010, 05:05:37 PM Did Obama explore Islam during college? I remember he said he used to fast on Sundays, which is a muslim tradition. He said it cleansed his body and soul. Umm...when did he say this. Title: Re: Who do you think is the strongest and weakest potential Republican candidates? Post by: milhouse24 on February 25, 2010, 08:38:38 PM Did Obama explore Islam during college? I remember he said he used to fast on Sundays, which is a muslim tradition. He said it cleansed his body and soul. Umm...when did he say this. I think he started fasting and living a healthier lifestyle after he stopped doing drugs. Its in his autobiography. |