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Title: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on December 28, 2009, 03:31:55 pm
Carly Fiorina?
Chuck DeVore?
Or is there someone else out there that could win. Perhaps Darrell Issa or Duncan Hunter Senior?


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on December 28, 2009, 03:34:52 pm
Presumably, only Barbara Boxer can defeat Barbara Boxer.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Cory Booker on December 28, 2009, 04:32:45 pm
She won't lose unless it's a landslide for Republicans and she will be carried onto victory with Jerry Brown's coattails.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on December 28, 2009, 04:38:06 pm
Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Cory Booker on December 28, 2009, 04:39:57 pm
Well, the last poll taken had it D+6 over Meg Whittman. We will have to see on that one. But Boxer or Feinstein will probably not lose anytime soon.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 28, 2009, 04:57:08 pm
Right now, I expect that no one will defeat her.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 28, 2009, 05:46:11 pm
     Steve Poizner or Tom Campbell, though they are both running for Governor. I don't think there are any other Republicans contemplating statewide runs who could win at this time.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Sewer on December 28, 2009, 05:53:22 pm


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 28, 2009, 06:11:20 pm

This. The only person who could potentially do it is running for Governor, and hopefully will win.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on December 28, 2009, 06:31:46 pm
     Steve Poizner or Tom Campbell, though they are both running for Governor. I don't think there are any other Republicans contemplating statewide runs who could win at this time.

Yeah I would prefer one of them to run for senate instead of governor, but don't any of you think that Fiorina could win? I know her time at HP was controversial, but she has been handling herself well so far since she announced she was running, and she has still kept Boxer at below 50% in most polls.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 28, 2009, 06:43:49 pm
     Steve Poizner or Tom Campbell, though they are both running for Governor. I don't think there are any other Republicans contemplating statewide runs who could win at this time.

Yeah I would prefer one of them to run for senate instead of governor, but don't any of you think that Fiorina could win? I know her time at HP was controversial, but she has been handling herself well so far since she announced she was running, and she has still kept Boxer at below 50% in most polls.

     I find that businesspersons tend to be unimpressive candidates, sizeable personal funds aside. There are exceptions, like Steve Poizner, but I never hold strong hopes for CEO candidates.

     Boxer has middling approval ratings, so it doesn't surprise me that much that she is under 50% at this stage. If she's still under 50% after Labor Day, I'll be inclined to view her as vulnerable.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Sewer on December 28, 2009, 08:07:35 pm
Fiorina will go down in flames.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: War on Want on December 28, 2009, 08:28:01 pm
Fiorina has been running of the worst campaigns ever and will get trounced.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Lunar on December 28, 2009, 09:36:17 pm
her campaign has not been the worst campaigns ever, I strongly disagree with that, but "Carlyfornia" was as much of a website disaster as I've ever seen.

But Fiorina has one of the worst candidate biographies I've ever seen, and she DID get fired from the McCain campaign for repeated incompetence.  The only reason the Republican establishment is touting her is because she can self-fund her campaign.

Boxer has been holding her fire, but once she drops $8million to let California voters know how Carly's tenure at HP went (from being paid to leave to violating sanctions against Iran), I doubt the anti-Boxer vote would be that significant.  


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on December 28, 2009, 09:40:27 pm
No one will defeat Boxer.

Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.

Jerry Brown has already won statewide 4 times, 2 as governor.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 28, 2009, 09:44:07 pm
Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.

Jerry Brown has already won statewide 4 times, 2 as governor.


     California was also a much more right-wing place back when Jerry Brown was elected Governor in the 1970s.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on December 28, 2009, 10:18:02 pm
No one will defeat Boxer.

Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.

Jerry Brown has already won statewide 4 times, 2 as governor.


Harold Stassen also had an impressive political background, but continually seeking political office like Jerry Brown has, didn't make him president. Seriously though, the California GOP if they are going to run someone against Boxer should at least try harder at persuading Poizner or Campbell to run against her. I don't see her being able to win against either of the two. It would be nice to have at least more than one Republican senator besides Lisa Murkowski on the West Coast again


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Lunar on December 29, 2009, 12:35:31 am
Seriously though, the California GOP if they are going to run someone against Boxer should at least try harder at persuading Poizner or Campbell to run against her. I don't see her being able to win against either of the two.

Don't you think you might be overestimating the GOP's chances just a little here?  I like Tom Campbell a lot, he's the only person on any side of the governor's race offering anything but annoying platitudes toward California's fundamental woes, but I also like Cal Cunningham over in North Carolina (a lot more purple of a state) and I'm not sitting around proclaiming he cannot be beaten in his challenge against Burr, let alone that he would be favored.  No matter who the GOP nominates, even if it's Jesus himself, they're going to have a hard-fought, uphill battle in California.  

Fiorina is such a weak candidate.

To say that you "can't see [Boxer] being able to win against either of the two" would be to place this race in the top 3 or higher in terms of competitiveness in the country.  Apologies, but this is almost laughable.    Boxer is probably somewhere between the 7th and 11th most likely Democrat to fall should the Republicans experience a wave in the Senate races.  

Boxer's polling numbers aren't great, but that does not mean she is seriously out of step with the state, it's just general anti-incumbent attitudes that will adjust to the bombardment of negative advertising that will hit Fiorina.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I can think of a mainstream candidate in recent history who has a worse biography than Fiorina.  Some people on this forum don't even consider her to be an "overrated" candidate because of her widely acknowledged inevitable demise.  

Full disclosure:  I've spent a number of hours working for the Boxer campaign.  Hundreds of Tea Partiers who responded to her email blasts with disgustingly sexist remarks found themselves unsubscribed from the mailing list courtesy of some of my efforts :)


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on December 29, 2009, 01:29:44 am
Seriously though, the California GOP if they are going to run someone against Boxer should at least try harder at persuading Poizner or Campbell to run against her. I don't see her being able to win against either of the two.

Don't you think you might be overestimating the GOP's chances just a little here?  I like Tom Campbell a lot, he's the only person on any side of the governor's race offering anything but annoying platitudes toward California's fundamental woes, but I also like Cal Cunningham over in North Carolina (a lot more purple of a state) and I'm not sitting around proclaiming he cannot be beaten in his challenge against Burr, let alone that he would be favored.  No matter who the GOP nominates, even if it's Jesus himself, they're going to have a hard-fought, uphill battle in California.  

Fiorina is such a weak candidate.

To say that you "can't see [Boxer] being able to win against either of the two" would be to place this race in the top 3 or higher in terms of competitiveness in the country.  Apologies, but this is almost laughable.    Boxer is probably somewhere between the 7th and 11th most likely Democrat to fall should the Republicans experience a wave in the Senate races.  

Boxer's polling numbers aren't great, but that does not mean she is seriously out of step with the state, it's just general anti-incumbent attitudes that will adjust to the bombardment of negative advertising that will hit Fiorina.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I can think of a mainstream candidate in recent history who has a worse biography than Fiorina.  Some people on this forum don't even consider her to be an "overrated" candidate because of her widely acknowledged inevitable demise.  

Full disclosure:  I've spent a number of hours working for the Boxer campaign.  Hundreds of Tea Partiers who responded to her email blasts with disgustingly sexist remarks found themselves unsubscribed from the mailing list courtesy of some of my efforts :)

Maybe I was a little too confident, but she has had so many missteps in just the last year, that it would be more difficult this time around for her to win. I haven't heard about Cal Cunningham, but would like to hear more info. His website is still under development, so I don't really know what issues he would be running on against Burr.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Lunar on December 29, 2009, 01:59:36 am
I don't think he knows what his issues will be either yet.  He'll probably lose, frankly. 


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on December 29, 2009, 02:01:39 am


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 29, 2009, 02:50:46 am
Me


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 01, 2010, 08:44:49 pm
Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.

lol?

No Republican will win a major statewide office next year.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: redcommander on January 01, 2010, 09:37:58 pm
That's what you think.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Holmes on January 01, 2010, 09:57:24 pm
Mmm, they might get something... but not if they just run generic R's, which are currently winning the primary polls for both governor and senator. Maldonado would probably make the state controller race as competitive as a state controller race can possibly get, if he makes it out of the primary. As long as he's not my senator anymore, I don't care.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on January 01, 2010, 10:04:39 pm

The Republicans have such a weak bench in California that I have little doubt she'll win.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 01, 2010, 10:53:45 pm

Obviously I do think so; otherwise, I would not have said so.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Kalwejt on January 05, 2010, 04:14:03 am

Troll


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: nkpatel1279 on January 05, 2010, 11:49:14 am
Barbara Boxer-CA is too Democrats  as what James Inhofe-OK or John Cornyn-TX is too Republicans.
Republicans consider Boxer-CA to be vulnerable because she is the most outspoken Liberal member of the US Senate- but Boxer-CA gets re-elected in 1998-against Matt Fong and in 2004 against Bill Jones- both were current/former Statewide elected officials. She will get re-elected again due to the fact- CA is a progressive state and  Fiorina-R and DeVore-R are weak candidates.  On the Democratic side- we try to unseat Inhofe-OK or Cornyn-TX but fail due to the Republican nature of those states.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on January 05, 2010, 03:39:13 pm
Barbara Boxer (D) 47%
Neal K. Patel (R) 52%

CA does not prove too Democrats for Neal K. Patel!


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: tpfkaw on November 18, 2010, 09:30:12 pm
This thread is amusing.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Miles on November 19, 2010, 12:43:14 am
Not Carly Fiorina!!


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Lephead on November 19, 2010, 08:22:50 am
The Republican party is too busy defeating itself to ever have anyone win a primary who could beat Boxer.  She has to be one of the luckiest people alive.  She is so beatable but can not loose!


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Niemeyerite on November 19, 2010, 10:04:28 am
Jerry Brown isn't going to win. A far-left Dem isn't going to be entrusted to govern the state with a legislature that is also controlled by far-left dems. Davis was only able to win because he ran as a moderate, but Brown can't run as one, his record is too liberal to.

hahahah


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 23, 2010, 05:47:07 pm
I did pretty well in this thread, I think.


Title: Re: Who could defeat Barbara Boxer?
Post by: emcee0 on April 27, 2015, 01:00:31 pm
I think Boxer is finished, she has no chance at winning reelection and is the most vulnerable senator up for re-election. Rating this race as Safe R.