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Title: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: segwaystyle2012 on December 28, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
I think he should focus on New Hampshire, Nevada and the open prmary in SC.

With victories here, he can build momentum to carry himself to the nomination.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 10:09:48 PM
For every other Republican candidate to die.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: segwaystyle2012 on December 28, 2009, 10:11:10 PM
For every other Republican candidate to die.

Please be more mature.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 10:17:00 PM

Please don't start threads about joke candidates.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:17:58 PM

And who do you support?

::)

yeah, leave segway alone.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:20:08 PM

What, like Giuliani or Huckabee?


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Sewer on December 28, 2009, 10:23:12 PM


Huckabee is a joke, but not a joke candidate.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:23:47 PM

Scary, huh?


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:29:31 PM

Gone silent now I see, Rowan.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:30:07 PM

Huck is a joke all around. He will never win the presidency.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Sewer on December 28, 2009, 10:32:14 PM

Huck is a joke all around. He will never win the presidency.

Huck can win the republicant primaries


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:32:54 PM

No.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 10:35:03 PM

Silent? No, I just don't monitor the threads every second.

As for who I support, I don't support anyone at this moment considering there are no announced candidates.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:37:05 PM

Silent? No, I just don't monitor the threads every second.

As for who I support, I don't support anyone at this moment considering there are no announced candidates.
lol

cop-out


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:40:22 PM

Johnson would crush Huckabee

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Mike Huckabee
Gary Johnson


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Johnson would win UT and Wy as well.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 28, 2009, 10:44:10 PM

Johnson would crush Huckabee

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Mike Huckabee
Gary Johnson


No.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:44:49 PM

Johnson would crush Huckabee

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Mike Huckabee
Gary Johnson


No.

Yes.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 10:46:11 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: xavier110 on December 28, 2009, 10:50:15 PM
I love how people here refuse to accept that the majority of the Republican Party now would never accept a candidate like Gary Johnson. Keep dreaming.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 10:51:12 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

Romney won WY and Huckabee made a lot of snide remarks toward Mormons. As long as Gary Johnson doesn't suddenly embrace gay marriage and abortions, he should win pretty comfortably. Remember, UT elected a Governor that supports civil unions, so they are open to that issue to an extent.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 11:00:13 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

Romney won WY and Huckabee made a lot of snide remarks toward Mormons. As long as Gary Johnson doesn't suddenly embrace gay marriage and abortions, he should win pretty comfortably. Remember, UT elected a Governor that supports civil unions, so they are open to that issue to an extent.
True, true.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 11:00:39 PM

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Mike Huckabee
Gary Johnson


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 28, 2009, 11:01:39 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

I don't get why you make an issue out of closed versus open primaries. You seem to think Huckabee would win UT just because they have a closed primary (not true, for the record), and Johnson would win SC just because of the open primary. BTW, if we were to apply that to every state, we would have....

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Blue states have cacuses or closed primaries.
Green states are all others.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on December 28, 2009, 11:02:07 PM
By not being Gary Johnson?


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 11:02:20 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

I don't get why you make an issue out of closed versus open primaries. You seem to think Huckabee would win UT just because they have a closed primary (not true, for the record), and Johnson would win SC just because of the open primary. BTW, if we were to apply that to every state, we would have....

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Blue states have cacuses or closed primaries.
Green states are all others.

Uh, no, that's not the only criterion I used, which is obviously why my map doesn't look like that. ::)


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 28, 2009, 11:03:39 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

I don't get why you make an issue out of closed versus open primaries. You seem to think Huckabee would win UT just because they have a closed primary (not true, for the record), and Johnson would win SC just because of the open primary. BTW, if we were to apply that to every state, we would have....

(
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Blue states have cacuses or closed primaries.
Green states are all others.

Uh, no, that's not the only criterion I used, which is obviously why my map doesn't look like that. ::)

I don't get why you're using that as a criterion at all. ::)


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Alexander Hamilton on December 28, 2009, 11:04:21 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

I don't get why you make an issue out of closed versus open primaries. You seem to think Huckabee would win UT just because they have a closed primary (not true, for the record), and Johnson would win SC just because of the open primary. BTW, if we were to apply that to every state, we would have....

(
)

Blue states have cacuses or closed primaries.
Green states are all others.

Uh, no, that's not the only criterion I used, which is obviously why my map doesn't look like that. ::)

I don't get why you're using that as a criterion at all. ::)

Becaue it is a major factor in determining the electorte?

::)


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 11:04:41 PM

OMG you are such an establishment hack!


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 11:04:55 PM
I don't know, they're both closed, and Wyoming has a caucus, but you'd probably know how things are out there better than I would.

I don't get why you make an issue out of closed versus open primaries. You seem to think Huckabee would win UT just because they have a closed primary (not true, for the record), and Johnson would win SC just because of the open primary. BTW, if we were to apply that to every state, we would have....

(
)

Blue states have cacuses or closed primaries.
Green states are all others.

Uh, no, that's not the only criterion I used, which is obviously why my map doesn't look like that. ::)

I don't get why you're using that as a criterion at all. ::)

Because one would have to be delusional to think that open or closed status has no impact on primary results.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on December 28, 2009, 11:08:18 PM

This is true.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
"In the 2008 election campaign, Johnson endorsed Ron Paul for the Republican presidential nomination."

That's all you pretty much need to know about this guy.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 28, 2009, 11:10:02 PM
"In the 2008 election campaign, Johnson endorsed Ron Paul for the Republican presidential nomination."

That's all you pretty much need to know about this guy.

Again Rowan, who do you support?


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Joe Republic on December 28, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
Why does Rowan have to support anybody, particularly since there are exactly zero announced candidates as yet?  Why does anybody, in fact?


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Rowan on December 28, 2009, 11:11:50 PM
"In the 2008 election campaign, Johnson endorsed Ron Paul for the Republican presidential nomination."

That's all you pretty much need to know about this guy.

Again Rowan, who do you support?

Not this guy.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 28, 2009, 11:23:37 PM
Well, if it comes down to Johnson and Huckabee (I have a late primary :() I'll vote for a libertarian first time out...


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: redcommander on December 29, 2009, 10:08:41 PM
I am pretty sure Johnson and Huckabee won't be the only two running in 2012 for the GOP nomination. Huckabee probably won't seeing that he is enjoying himself on cable news. Johnson btw is a much stronger candidate than Paul, and might make some primary voters give him some consideration in deciding who to vote for. If I were him, I would pour tons of money in New Hampshire, slam Obama's support of wasteful spending, talk about lower taxes, and possibly pull off a win. I would look at Maine, Nevada, and Wyoming as well, and then ride into Super Tuesday with momentum to win in other states.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: JSojourner on December 30, 2009, 02:11:15 PM
I can't comment about what states would constitute Johnson's best path.  But I think his only shot at serious consideration would be to do the following...

1.  Emphasize his record as Governor of New Mexico.
2.  Present himself as the lone moderate in a field of Christo-Fascists.

Even so, I can't see him winning the nomination or even finishing in the top five.  Former governors long removed from their executive posts tend not to fare well.  Gilmore and Tommy Thompson were utter jokes. Keating read the tea leaves and decided not to even try.  Ditto, Terry Branstad.

I just can't see it. 

Of course, we have to remember that not everyone who runs for a party's nomination is thinking solely about winning.  Lesser candidates can be angling for VP nominations or cabinet posts.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Badger on December 30, 2009, 07:19:08 PM
For every other Republican candidate to die.

Sad but true. Even though he's the Republican candidate I'd be most likely to vote for.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: The Mikado on December 31, 2009, 12:03:03 AM
Of course, we have to remember that not everyone who runs for a party's nomination is thinking solely about winning.  Lesser candidates can be angling for VP nominations or cabinet posts.

I really can't see Gary Johnson appointed to Cabinet by a President Romney (or Huckabee, I suppose).


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 31, 2009, 12:10:01 AM
I really can't see Gary Johnson appointed to Cabinet by a President Romney (or Huckabee, I suppose).

He may want the second slot on the ticket, though.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: true liberty on December 31, 2009, 12:18:19 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 31, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)



Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: true liberty on December 31, 2009, 12:24:24 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 31, 2009, 12:35:50 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.

The sad thing is, there are still people who believe there was and is a difference between corporate puppets Bush and Obama.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: true liberty on December 31, 2009, 12:44:59 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.

The sad thing is, there are still people who believe there was and is a difference between corporate puppets Bush and Obama.

thats because they want to believe that. its due to their partisanship and nothing else. they are so caught up in democrat vs. republican that they are blinded to the fact that it doesn't make a difference.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 31, 2009, 12:51:28 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.

The sad thing is, there are still people who believe there was and is a difference between corporate puppets Bush and Obama.

The Democratic wing of the Republican party is somewhat preferable to the Republican wing.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 31, 2009, 01:44:52 AM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.

The sad thing is, there are still people who believe there was and is a difference between corporate puppets Bush and Obama.

thats because they want to believe that. its due to their partisanship and nothing else. they are so caught up in democrat vs. republican that they are blinded to the fact that it doesn't make a difference.

     It's also greatly beneficial to the corporations that people think that the two-party system offers them a genuine choice. If they realized it didn't, the corporations would be in a bind.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: Zarn on December 31, 2009, 09:17:42 AM
I think he should focus on New Hampshire, Nevada and the open prmary in SC.

Unless there is a dramatic shift in the next couple of years (not impossible but not likely), then these three states are his best chance.


Title: Re: What is Gary Johnson's best path to the nominaton?
Post by: JSojourner on December 31, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
he has no chance. i would vote for him if he did. really, the political climate of the day is saddening.
Yeah, but things could change over the next few years to the point where people start demanding real change after 12 years of BushBama.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. :)


thank you.

well bush and obama are pretty much the same. what happened to withdrawing the troops? adding more? that isn't change that i believed in (or didn't believe in).

the corporate internationalists have long passed their expiration date, yet they won't go away.

The sad thing is, there are still people who believe there was and is a difference between corporate puppets Bush and Obama.

The sad thing is...I am slowly starting to see your point.  <sigh>   I voted for a liberal.  I got Reagan's 8th term.  So far, anyway...