Title: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 04:08:57 PM After deciding not to order the break in at the Watergate, Richard Nixon cruised to a landslide victory in the 1972 Presidential Election over Senator George McGovern.
Nixon had many successes in the domestic and foreign front: • The Vietnam War ended in a victory for the US Forces. The President made the decision to nuclear bomb the strong points of the communist military forces. Despite Victory, the President must still continue to slowly gain the public’s respect back lost during the war. • President Nixon continued to develop better relations with China and the USSR. Nixon has kept his eye on the Middle East due to growing tensions between several different countries in the region. • President Nixon passed a compressive health care plan, with help from congressional leaders in both parties including Surprisingly Ted Kennedy. • Inflation and the deficit however is the main domestic issue after Health Care. Despite cutting taxes for the two lower classes, and a large increase in taxes for the higher classes led to small decreases for both. • Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned due to income tax fraud. President Nixon chose former Secretary of the Treasury John Connally as his new VP. Despite all of the troubles and successes Nixon Is regarded as a good president with his current approval rating of 60%. But the election is looking to be an interesting one for the first time since 1968. ---------------------------------------- Leave your feedback, it is appreciated. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Bo on January 26, 2010, 04:12:11 PM I'm assuming unemployment is still about 8% due to Nixon saving Israel in the Yom Kippur War? If so, Republicans could have a real challenge holding the WH in 1976.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: sentinel on January 26, 2010, 04:15:40 PM I feel like this is a tad to optimistic and extreme. Nuking Vietnam?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 04:17:23 PM Unemployment is at Rl's 1975-1976 level. As for the Nukes, Nixon decided the hell with it and just nuked them.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 06:11:30 PM January 25th, 1976: With both the Democratic and Republican Primaries two days away and no clear front runner the Iowa caucus is wide open. The real surprise is Senator Ted Kennedy’s entry into the race, but not registering for the Iowa caucus, instead signing up for the New Hampshire Primary.
Democratic Candidates: Senator Ted Kennedy Governor Jerry Brown Governor George Wallace Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson Republican Candidates: Vice President John Conally Former Governor Ronald Reagan Governor Nelson Rockefeller Coming Up: Iowa Caucus Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 06:36:09 PM January 27th, 1976: Iowa Caucus for both Parties Democratic: Jerry Brown 41% Frank Church 31% George Wallace 27% Despite Ted Kennedy not entering the Iowa caucus, voters turned out. And in an upset, Governor Jerry Brown wins due to his outsider status, even though Frank Church gave him a battle. George Wallace was not even a contender, but he did get a good chunk of votes. () Governor Jerry Brown, winner of Iowa Caucus () Republican: Ronald Reagan 29% John Conally 28% Nelson Rockefeller 23% Harold Stassen 20% Former Governor Reagan pulled out a upset over Vice President Conally due to heavy campaigning from Governor Reagan, and hardly no campaigning from Conally () () January 1976 in News: President Nixon announces a plan to convert the United States to the Metric System The Philadelphia Flyers beat the Soviet Red Army Hockey team in an exhibition game The Pittsburgh Steelers beat The Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl 10 Up Next: The NH primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 06:52:17 PM Febuary 24th, 1976: New Hampshire Primaries
Democratic: Ted Kennedy 50% Jerry Brown 20% Scoop Jackson 20% George Wallace 10% After skipping the Iowa caucus, and instead focusing on the next two primaries Ted Kennedy wins in a landslide. () () Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 40% John Conally 39% Ronald Reagan 21% Nelson Rockefeller wins a close primary over Vice President Conally. () () February 1976 in News: The 1976 Winter Olympics is held Cuba adopts a new constitution Two pieces of Legislation are passed: The Railroad Revitalization and Regulatory Reform Act and The Government in the Sunshine Act Up Next: The next two primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 26, 2010, 08:46:17 PM Nuking Vietnam would not bring 60% approval ratings.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 08:57:46 PM It brought a end to the war, which made the public happy.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Bo on January 26, 2010, 09:05:43 PM It brought a end to the war, which made the public happy. How come the USSR didn't retaliate? Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Sewer on January 26, 2010, 09:09:14 PM lol Nuking Vietnam lol
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 09:14:01 PM Like is said earlier, Nixon said to hell with this war and nuked Vietnam. The only one pissed was the USSR, but after getting ready to bomb them, they agreed to diplomatic relations, and stopped the conflict before it started.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 26, 2010, 09:18:00 PM March 2nd 1976: More primaries
Mass Democratic Primary: Ted Kennedy 80% The win was no surprise due to this being Kennedy’s home state. Mass Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 50% It was close at first, but Rockefeller pulled it off. The real battle was for second in which the vice president won. Vermont Democratic Primary( No Delegates at stake): Ted Kennedy 50% Vermont Republican Primary( No Delegates at stake): Nelson Rockefeller 50% The two Vermont primaries are beauty contests, in which no delegates are given. Both of the primaries turned out to be close ones. Washington Democratic Primaries: Jerry Brown 65% The primary was a great one for Jerry Brown’s campaign. Washington Republican primary: Ronald Reagan 60% The Victory was also a great one for Reagan’s campaign. Republican Map: () Democratic Map: () March 1976 news: After two mining explosions in Kentucky, President Nixon urges that Congress passes new safety laws for miners. Harold Wilson resigns as England's Prime Minster Rubin "Hurricane" Carter is retried in New Jersey Patty Hurst is found guilty of armed robbery The Tronto Blue jays are created. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: dwkulcsar on January 27, 2010, 12:16:00 AM Go Jerry!
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 27, 2010, 03:58:37 PM Rest of Primaries from March:
Hawaii Democratic: Jerry Brown 30% South Carolina Republican: John Conally 40% Wyoming Democratic: Ted Kennedy 50% Florida Democratic: George Wallace 60% Florida Republican: John Conally 50% Illinois Democratic: Ted Kennedy 60% Illinois Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 50% Kansas Republican: John Conally 60% Connecticut Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 60% North Carolina Democratic: George Wallace 65% North Carolina Republican: Ronald Reagan 40% Mississippi Republican Primaries: John Conally 60% Maine Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 70% Democratic Map: () Republican Map: () Coming Up: April Primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: hcallega on January 27, 2010, 05:09:13 PM You clearly have no idea about cold war politics my friend.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 27, 2010, 05:10:31 PM I agree, that's why i am currently in US History
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 27, 2010, 05:11:14 PM April primaries:
Kansas Democratic Winner: Ted Kennedy 50% Virginia Democratic Winner: George Wallace 60% Oklahoma Republican: John Conally 65% New York Democratic: Jerry Brown 41%- Jerry Brown pulls out the upset of the primary season, over favorite Ted Kennedy. This is due to low turnout. New York Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 80%- No surprise due to being his home state. Wisconsin Democratic: Jerry Brown 50% Wisconsin Republican: Ronald Reagan 60% Missouri Republican: Ronald Reagan 50% Missouri Democratic: Ted Kennedy 60% New Mexico Democratic: Jerry Brown 50% Arizona Democratic: Jerry Brown 50% New Mexico Republican: John Conally 50% North Dakota Democratic: Ted Kennedy 69% Pennsylvania Democratic: Ted Kennedy 65% Pennsylvania Republican: Ronald Reagan 50% April 1976: Apple Computer Company is founded James Callaghan becomes England’s new Prime Minister The Ramones record their first album Democratic Map: () Republican Map: () UP Next: May Primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on January 29, 2010, 09:31:53 PM No way would Jerry Brown beat Ted Kennedy in New York.
Also, Rockefeller's margin of victory would probably be more Like 60-20-20 in New York. (not exactly even, you toy with the numbers.) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: dwkulcsar on January 29, 2010, 11:08:49 PM Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Bo on January 29, 2010, 11:10:05 PM Go Jerry Brown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on January 29, 2010, 11:16:32 PM Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: hcallega on January 30, 2010, 10:17:03 AM Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality True. Also, while this TL is good, the nuking and the sucess of Jerry are absolutley never going to happen ever. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 01:30:49 PM The element of surprise is what i am going for in this TL.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 04:06:52 PM Current Delegate Counts:
Democratic: Kennedy- 667 Brown- 485 Wallace- 288 Republican: Conally- 240 Reagan- 380 Rockefeller- 392 On the democratic Side, Ted Kennedy is leading, but Jerry brown is surprising a lot of people with his outsider image, and his surprising delegate total On the Republican Side, despite not winning any of the prior primaries, Nelson Rockefeller is leading, but Reagan and Connally is fighting for delegates. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 05:17:53 PM May Primaries:
Louisiana democratic: George Wallace 70% North Dakota republican: John Conally 55% Texas democratic: George Wallace 40% Texas republican: John Conally 70% Colorado democratic: Jerry Brown 50% Colorado republican: John Conally 60% Alabama democratic: George Wallace 80% Alabama republican: John Conally 55% Georgia democratic: George Wallace 70% Georgia republican: Ronald Regan 65% Indiana democratic: Ted Kennedy 50% Indiana republican: Ronald Reagan 60% Louisiana republican: John Conally 50% Connecticut democratic: Ted Kennedy 70% Nebraska democratic: Jerry Brown 40% Nebraska republican: John Conally 50% WV democratic: Ted Kennedy 40% WV republican: Nelson Rockefeller 40% Virginia republican: Ronald Reagan 50% Utah democratic: Jerry Brown 60% Utah republican: Ronald Regan 50% Alaska Republican: Ronald Reagan 50% Maryland democratic: Ted Kennedy 60% Maryland republican: Ronald Regan 49% Michigan democratic: Jerry Brown 40% Michigan Republican: John Conally 40% Arkansas democratic: George Wallace 50% Arkansas republican: John Conally 50% Idaho democratic: Jerry Brown 60% Idaho republican: John Conally 40% Kentucky democratic: Ted Kennedy 50% Kentucky republican: John Conally 49% Nevada democratic: Jerry Brown 65% Nevada republican: Ronald Regan 60% Oregon democratic: Jerry Brown 70% Oregon republican: Ronald Reagan 75% Tennessee democratic: George Wallace 55% Tennessee republican: John Conally 60% Democratic Map: () Republican map: () May in the News: NBC’s Saturday Night, a popular late night show, wins 4 emmys, including Best Variety show, and Supporting Actor for Dan Aykroyd, for his popular impersonation of his President Nixon. President Nixon signs the Federal Election Campaign Act into law. Johnny Rutherford wins the Shortest Indy 500 in History. Up Next: June Primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 05:40:51 PM Current Delegate Counts:
Democratic: Kennedy- 909 Brown- 736 Wallace- 616 Republican: Conally- 719 Reagan- 663 Rockefeller- 420 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 06:52:35 PM The Final Primaries; June 1976:
Monatana Democratic: Ted Kennedy 60% Montana Republican: John Conally 40% RI Democratic: Ted Kennedy 70% RI republican: Nelson Rockefeller 80% South Dakota Democrtaic: Ted Kennedy 65% South Dakota Republican: Ronald Reagan 40% California Democratic: Jerry Brown 75% California Republican: Ronald Reagan 80% New Jersey Democratic: Ted Kennedy 70% New Jersey Republican: Nelson Rockfeller 60% Ohio Democratic: Jerry Brown 40% Ohio Republican: John Conally 45% Democratic Map: () Republican Map: () June 1976 in News: UK and Iceland end the Cod War A F-5 tornado hits in Iowa. Jerry brown, ted Kennedy, and Ronald Regan tour andh elp in the damage The NBA and The ABA merge. The Year's top horror film "The Omen" opens on June 25th Coming Up: The Convention Battles Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 01, 2010, 07:36:43 PM July 1976:
July 4th: America’s Bicentennial was celebrated by everyone, including President Nixon, and the presidential candidates. President Nixon presided over the New York part of the celebration, which included a parade and Fireworks. Nixon ordered a national day of celebration. July 12th: The Democratic National Convention begins at New York in Madison Square Garden. The Favorite is Ted Kennedy, but many experts are not ruling out a Jerry Brown victory. But, almost everyone is wanting George Wallace to drop out after the first ballot. Here is the first ballot: Senator Ted Kennedy- 1073, Governor Jerry Brown-1168, Governor George Wallace- 616 Wallace 616 delegates will be enough to determine the winner. Both Kennedy and Brown are trying to make deals with Wallace to concede. Eventually, ted Kennedy makes the best deal, he will choose a southerner to be his vp, and Wallace will send his delegates to Kennedy. Wallace concedes, and it is a race to see who the delegates will go to. The first southern state to go is Louisiana who goes to Kennedy. Next is South Carolina who goes to Brown. Next is Georgia to Kennedy, then Virginia to Kennedy, which puts him in the lead. It goes back and fourth until Kennedy gets the necessary delegates from Texas, even though he needed one more delegate. He finally wins thanks to Tennessee. Final Delegate Count: Kennedy- 1514 Brown- 1343 Ted Kennedy is the Democratic nominee for President () For his vice presidential pick, Kennedy chooses former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford Democratic Ticket: () () Coming up: Republican Convention Battle Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 11:00:50 AM August 16th: The Republican Convention begins in Kansas City Missouri. It is highly expected to be a battle between John Conally and Ronald Reagan. But little did anyone know how big of a battle it would be.
First Ballot: Conally- 836 Reagan- 850 Rockefeller- 506 Just like the Democratic Convention, party leaders urged Rockefeller to drop out. But he refused, but he believed he still had a chance. But some states began to leave Rockefeller. First was West Virginia, who goes to Reagan. Then, another series of states leave Rockefeller, Illinois, and New Jersey, which cause Rockefeller to drop out, and refuse to endorse either Candidate. Conally gets NJ, while Reagan gets Ilinois. Second Ballot: Conally- 903 Reagan- 979 Unconfirmed- 310 Current Delgate Map: () With the Northeast still undertermined, the northeast will decide the republican primary. Up Next: Day 2 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 11:14:56 AM Augest 17th: Day 2 of the Republican Convention. While the Delegate Drama continues rumors are spreading about whom will the winning candidate choose for their vice President? Regan’s believed to Choose Senator Jesse Helms, while Conally is believed to choose Senator Robert Dole.
Two more states switch, Rhode Island goes to Reagan, while Vermont goes to Conally. Third ballot: Conally-921 Reagan- 998 After the third ballot, a fight breaks out on the floor between the Utah and New York delegates, over a phone which is used to talk to the other state delegations. Senator Robert Dole happens to be there and stops the fight before the police arrive. After the ruckus, another state switches. Maine goes to Reagan Fourth Ballot: Conally- 921 Reagan- 1018 With Day two over, Reagan is close to the nomination, but the winner will most likely be determined by New York’s delegates. Current Map: () Up Next: Day 3 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 11:32:15 AM Augest 18th: Day 4 of the Republican convention. The drama is getting bigger since there is such few states left. Massachusetts switches to Conally.
Fifth Ballot: Conally- 964 Reagan- 1018 New York finally switches it’s alliance to Conally, which is a great help for his campaign. Sixth Ballot: Conally- 1118 Reagan- 1018 Conally needs 17 more delegates to win the nomination. Current Map: () Up Next: Day 4 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 12:17:15 PM Augest 19th: The fourth Day of the convention. Conally is a few delegates from the nomination. Reagan is trying hard to get the remaing delegates. Connetcutt switches to Reagan, whil New Hampshire goes to Conally.
Seventh Ballot: Conally- 1139 Reagan- 1053 After the Seventh Ballot, Vice President Conally is the official Republican Candidate for President. Vice President John Conally is the Republican Candidate for President Final Republican Primary Map: () For his VP, Conally chooses Senator Robert Dole of Kansas, which was expected. UP Next: Regan's Speech Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 12:34:30 PM Before Vice President Conally makes his victory speech Reagan asks to make his concession speech.
In the speech, he said on of the most famous lines in American history "America's futrue depends on what we do here now, not what will do in the future" Then Conally gave his speech, but a rather lackluster one, leading many delegates and Political veterans to believe they choose the wrong man for the nomination. After the Convention the Democratic Ticket gained an extra three points, But, a surprise third party will take the country by surprise. UP next: The Surprise Third Party and the First Debate. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 01:46:32 PM So what do you guys think so far?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2010, 09:40:07 PM Come on People
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: tmthforu94 on February 03, 2010, 10:18:34 PM This is very interesting, to say the least.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 05, 2010, 06:01:31 PM August 25th
Walter Cronkite: Good Evening, A surprise candidate announced his plans to run for President as the third party candidate. Jerry Brown: Today, I officially announce my candidacy for president as a independent candidate. After watching the conventions, I realized that I am the only logical candidate for president left. For my running mate, I choose Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota. Thank you very much, and Together I will be in the White House in 1977! Cronkite: With the announcement, the presidential election is shot wide open with interest. We will wait and see what will happen in the upcoming weeks. The move had different effect on the other two candidates. Kennedy is quoted by one of his aides cussing like a sailor, while Conally appears indifferent on the matter. But the move has had an effect on the Presidential polls: () Kennedy- 142 Conally- 67 Brown- 107 With the first debate less than a month away, the contest is becoming more interesting by the minute, with still a while to go. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: hcallega on February 05, 2010, 06:39:22 PM Brown wouldn't be winning any states at this point. He would be doing well in the southwest and west coast, no where else really.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 05, 2010, 11:42:16 PM Brown wouldn't be winning any states at this point. He would be doing well in the southwest and west coast, no where else really. But he could take away enough votes in the west, and a trip to the House of Representatives may be necessary. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 06, 2010, 11:30:35 PM Expect tomorrow's update tomorrow
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 06, 2010, 11:49:22 PM How the hell is Jerry Brown leading in Nebraska and Idaho?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 07, 2010, 01:08:02 PM How the hell is Jerry Brown leading in Nebraska and Idaho? Won the state's primaries Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 08, 2010, 05:57:54 PM Guys, should I end this or Not?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 09:15:06 AM I am going to end it, so watch out for a closing summery
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 09:15:42 AM No! Keep going.
Just add a little more realism. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 09:35:53 AM No! Keep going. Just add a little more realism. I changed my mind, i will keep on going but i will do a side timeline as well Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 09:45:48 AM Election Night 1976:
The night everyone has been waiting for has arrived. Everyone is looking forward to watching the results on TV, with NBC leading the way with an election map in the studio with the Democrats Red, Republicans Blue , and Independents Green. The election has had the highest turnout since 1968, with no clear favorite to win. With the Networks coverage starting at 7:00 PM, the election appread to be close in all elections. Here is the seven PM Calls: Indiana: Too close to Call Kentucky: Kennedy Wins it () Vermont: Kennedy wins it easly () New Hampshire: Kennedy wins it easly () () Current EV Votes: Kennedy 16 Conally 0 Brown 0 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 09:47:43 AM Jerry Brown doesn't eat at a significant portion of Kennedy's base in traditionally Republican KY, NH, and VT?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 09:49:58 AM Jerry Brown doesn't eat at a significant portion of Kennedy's base in traditionally Republican KY, NH, and VT? Brown's ratings have dropped since he quit campaigning in the states, but Brown will be a factor in the 7:30 States Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: hcallega on February 11, 2010, 09:57:49 AM I have trouble seeing Vermont and NH going to Kennedy. They were pretty reliably Republican until Newt and Company arrived. Also I think Brown would do very well there.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:01:52 AM Here is the Senate Races at 7:00:
Indiana: Too Close to Call between Democrat Incumbent Vance Hartke and republican Dick Lugar Vermont: too close to call between Republican incumbent Robert Stafford, and Democrat Thomas P. Salmon () Current Senate: Democrats: 61 Republicans:38 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 10:08:51 AM I have to second what hcallega just said. Doesn't Nixon have 60% approvals?
Even without massive approvals, much like hcallega said, Brown would probably hurt Kennedy pretty badly there. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:15:36 AM I have to second what hcallega just said. Doesn't Nixon have 60% approvals? Even without massive approvals, much like hcallega said, Brown would probably hurt Kennedy pretty badly there. I fixed it in the 7:30 CLOSINGS Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:17:07 AM 7:30 Presidential:
The Networks made early mistakes by calling New Hampshire and Vermont Early. This makes an interesting night even more interesting. Here are the 7:00 States Indiana: Too Close to Call, but Conally is leading NH: Brown has taken a surprising lead Vermont: Conally is leading with Kennedy a close second 7: 30 States: Georgia: Too Close with Kennedy leading Ohio: Too Close with Brown leading Florida: Kennedy Wins it with Current lead of 60% North Carolina: Kennedy Wins it with 70% South Carolina: Kennedy wins it with 59% Virginia: Too close with Conally winning West Virginia; Conally wins with 60% () Current EV's: Kennedy: 37 Conally: 6 Brown: 0 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:29:34 AM 7:30 Senate:
The First Senate election to be called is Florida with Democratic Incumbent Lawton Chiles being re-elected. Ohio: To Close to call, but Robert Taft Jr. is leading Virginia: Independent Robert F. Bryd Jr. is reelected to another term. WV; Democrat Robert Bryd is reelcted with no opposition () Democrats: 61 Republicans: 38 Independent: 1(Goes with Democrats) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:45:39 AM 8:00 PM Closings:
Alabama: Kennedy Wins it with 70% Connecticut: Kennedy wins with 70% Delaware: Kennedy is leading with Brown in a close second Illinois: Brown is leading with Kennedy second Maine: Kennedy wins it with 55% Maryland: Kennedy wins it with 65% Mass: Kennedy's home state stays with Kennedy 80% Mississippi: Conally is leading, but too close Missouri: Too close with brown leading New Jersey: Brown is leading with 60%, too close New Hampshire: Brown finally wins it with 65% Oklahoma: Conally wins with 70% Pennsylvania: Too Close with Kennedy leading it Tennessee: Kennedy wins with 65% Washington DC: Surprisingly close between Kennedy and Brown, Conally is not a factor () Kennedy: 88 Conally: 14 Brown: 4 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 10:50:49 AM How is liberal New England catholic Ted Kennedy doing so well against authentic Texan John Connally in the South?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 11, 2010, 10:52:50 AM Virginia: Independent Robert F. Bryd is reelected to another term. It's actually Harry F. Byrd Jr. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:53:12 AM How is liberal New England catholic Ted Kennedy doing so well against authentic Texan John Connally in the South? Kennedy picked Terry Sanford as his VP Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:53:41 AM Virginia: Independent Robert F. Bryd is reelected to another term. It's actually Harry F. Byrd Jr. Sorry, i will fix it Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 10:54:13 AM How is liberal New England catholic Ted Kennedy doing so well against authentic Texan John Connally in the South? Kennedy picked Terry Sanford as his VP Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 10:58:59 AM How is liberal New England catholic Ted Kennedy doing so well against authentic Texan John Connally in the South? Kennedy picked Terry Sanford as his VP It will come into play at 8:30 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 11:31:58 AM 8:00 Pm Senate:
. Delaware: William Roth is elected to another term with 55% Illinois: Too Close, but Incumbent Charles H. Percy is leading Maine: Ed Muskie is reelected Mass: Ted Kennedy is easly elected, but if he wins governor Dukakis will pick a democrat Miss: John C. Stenis wins another term New Jersey: Harrison A. Williams is reelected Pennslyvania: Too Close, but John Heinz the 3rd is leading Tennessee: Jim Sasser defeats incumbent Bill Brock () Democratic: 63 (+2) Republican: 39 (+1) Independent: 1 (Goes with Democrats) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 12:11:10 PM 8:30 PM:
Arkansas: Too Close to call Georgia: Conally 65% Vermont: Conally 55% () Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 12:38:35 PM 9:00 PM:
Two more states are called back, South Carolina and Tennessee are now too close to call. All three campaigns are urging the three networks to be careful with the calls. Arizona: Too Close, Brown is leading Colorado: Too Close, Brown is leading Kansas: Too Close, Kennedy is leading Louisiana: Conally Wins 65% Michigan: Kennedy wins 65% Nebraska: Too Close, Brown is leading New jersey: Brown wins 60% New Mexico: Brown wins 55% New York: Kennedy wins 70% Rhode Island: Kennedy wins 55% South Dakota: Conally Wins it 59% Texas: Conally 80% Wisconsin: Brown wins 60% Wyoming: Conally Wins 59% () Kennedy: 145 Conally: 60 Brown: 36 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 11, 2010, 12:44:05 PM Hold on, dude
You're covering wrong Senate races. Neither Biden, Cohen or Heflin were elected in 1976. Just don't tell me Biden was elected in 1970, he was ineglible :P Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 12:57:50 PM 9:00 PM Senate Calls:
Arizona: Two Close, Dennis Denarci is leading Indiana: Finally after two hours Richard Lugar is the projected winner in Indiana Nebraska: Too Close New Mexico: too Close New York: Daniel Moynhan defates Incumbent James L. Buckley Rhode Island: John Chafee wins after the previous incumbents retirment Texas: Lloyd Benson is reelected Wisconsin: William Proxmire is easily reelected Wyoming: Too Close () Democratic: 64 (+3) Republican: 41(+2) Independant: 1(Goes with democratic) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 12:58:44 PM Hold on, dude You're covering wrong Senate races. Neither Biden, Cohen or Heflin were elected in 1976. Just don't tell me Biden was elected in 1970, he was ineglible :P Whoos, i was looking at the wrong article on Wikipedia. I will fix it Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 01:00:30 PM Thi s is hackish, porrly written and poorly conducted timeline. I could do it better. Why don't you do one, besides leaching around a bad mouthing other writers timelines. You Romney wanabee Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 01:26:39 PM 10:00 PM:
Arizona: Brown wins 60% Indiana: Conally finally wins it 55% Iowa:Kennedy 60% Kansas: Conally wins it 55% Minnesota: Kennedy wins 60% Montana: Conally wins 65% Nevada: Brown wins 65% South Carolina: Conally wins 55% Utah: Brown 55% () Kennedy: 155 Conally: 92 Brown: 49 Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 01:42:59 PM 10:00 PM Senate :
Montana: John Melcher pick's up Mike Mansfield's Seat Nevada: Howard Cannon is re elected to anther term New Mexico: Harrison Schmidt defeats Joesph Montoya Pennsylvania: John Heniz wins Hugh Scott's Old Seat Vermont: Robert Stafford is Relected () Democrats: 64(+3) Republican: 43(+4) Independant: 1(Goes with democrats) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Larry T on February 11, 2010, 01:53:43 PM Thi s is hackish, porrly written and poorly conducted timeline. I could do it better. Why don't you do one, besides leaching around a bad mouthing other writers timelines. You Romney wanabee Do it then, and quit bothering me, you are interrupting the flow of the timeline. You bet I will in some time Yes, I will and it will be fair TL, not a Democratic hack like yours is! Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 01:56:59 PM Thi s is hackish, porrly written and poorly conducted timeline. I could do it better. Why don't you do one, besides leaching around a bad mouthing other writers timelines. You Romney wanabee Do it then, and quit bothering me, you are interrupting the flow of the timeline. You bet I will in some time Yes, I will and it will be fair TL, not a Democratic hack like yours is! First off, i am not a Democrat. The Reason Kennedy is leading is that it is typical of the Political environment,Democrats for eight years, then Republicans for eight years. Mine is fair as it can be, if you have a problem with that too fricken bad Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 02:10:03 PM Now with that out of the way...
11:00 PM: The Most Anticipated Period of the election: Arkansas: Kennedy wins 55% California: Too Close, Brown is leading Idaho: Brown wins 60% Illinois: Kennedy wins 52% Mississippi: Conally 65% Missouri: Brown 50% North Dakota: Conally 60% Oregon: Brown 65% Pennsylvania: Kennedy 50% Tennessee: John Conally 55% Virginia: Kennedy 50% Washington: Brown 60% () Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 02:52:06 PM 11:00 PM Senate Calls:
Arizona: Dennis DeConcini winns Paul Fanin's Seat California: Too Close Hawaii: Too Close Maryland: Paul Sarbanes defeats John Beall Michigan: Donald Rigeel wins Philp Hart's Seat Minnesota: Hubert Humphrey is re elected Missourii: John Danforth wins Stuart Symington's Seat Nevada: Howard Cannon wins another Term North Dakota: Quintin Burdick is easly reelected Ohio: Howard Metzenbam defeats Robert Taft Jr. Utah: Orrin Hatch upsets Frank Moss Washington: Scoop Jackson is easily elected for another term () Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 03:02:08 PM 1:00 AM:
Alaska: Conally Wins 65% California: Brown 50% Colorado: Kennedy 55% Nebraska: Brown 50% Hawaii: Kennedy 60% () For the first time since 1824, The Presidential Election is going to be decided in the House of Representatives Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 03:23:13 PM 1:00 AM Senate Calls:
California: S.I Hayakawa defates John V. Tunney Nebraska: Edward Zarensky wins Roman Hurska's seat Utah: Orrin Hatch Wins Wyoming: Malcom Wallop wins () For the final Tally: Democrats: 61(0) Republicans: 45(+60 Independent: 1(goes withe Democrats) Democrats are still in charge in both houses, but Republicans gained seats. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 11, 2010, 03:25:42 PM Very interesting :)
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 03:31:13 PM I agree, hopefully when i will get over this election cycle, i can get into the actual time line Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Larry T on February 11, 2010, 03:40:18 PM Wrong.
With Kennedy as a nominee, after Chappaquidick scandal, and far-left Brown, Connally would wil epic victory. () Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 03:55:10 PM Wrong. With Kennedy as a nominee, after Chappaquidick scandal, and far-left Brown, Connally would wil epic victory. () Get the hell off of my timeline! Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 11, 2010, 06:48:41 PM With the Presidential election being decided in the Senate, no one will know who will be chosen by the house. the other wild card is that the senate is choosing the VP. So with all of this the first ballot Starts in the House on December 11th.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 11, 2010, 11:14:18 PM Jerry Brown... winning... Utah... and Idaho... and Nebraska?
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Bo on February 12, 2010, 01:41:14 AM OK timeline, but keep up the good work. You can improve your TL's over time.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Sewer on February 12, 2010, 01:45:50 AM Jerry Brown... winning... Utah... and Idaho... and Nebraska? Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on February 12, 2010, 10:53:43 AM Thi s is hackish, porrly written and poorly conducted timeline. I could do it better. Wrong. With Kennedy as a nominee, after Chappaquidick scandal, and far-left Brown, Connally would wil epic victory. () Oh, so that map isn't hackish and poorly conducted at all...And it's also spelled completely correctly! ;) Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 13, 2010, 07:24:56 PM I have decided to end this TL, but i will create a new TL for who ever wins the election in the house.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 13, 2010, 08:02:25 PM House Ballot 1: 300 needed to win
Kennedy: 265 Conally: 100 Brown: 70 With no real chance, Conally urges his voters to switch to Kennedy Ballot 2: Kennedy:315 Brown: 140 Ted Kennedy is the next President of the United States Connally and Brown give Concession speeches, both thank their supports and congratulate Kennedy. With this, Kennedy refuses to give his victory speech until his vice President is chosen by the Senate. UP Next: The VP is choosen by the senate Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 13, 2010, 08:48:23 PM Despite my recent jokes, I really like this TL
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 13, 2010, 09:31:14 PM Despite my recent jokes, I really like this TL Thanks, will start my sequel timeline tomorrow. Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 14, 2010, 02:49:56 PM Despite my recent jokes, I really like this TL Thanks, will start my sequel timeline tomorrow. With the houses job over, it is now time for the senate to choose the VP. It took five ballots but Terry Sanford wins by one vote. With only a few weeks left who will President Elect Kennedy choose? Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Bo on February 14, 2010, 03:26:45 PM Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: No Watergate, No Jimmy Carter Presidency Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 14, 2010, 03:48:25 PM Keep up the good work. Thanks, i will put my new timeline, up in a few. |