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Title: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: CatoMinor on February 20, 2010, 05:32:30 PM
Paul just won with 31%
http://www.cpac.org/

Willard 22%
Palin 7%
Pawlenty 6%
Gingrich 4%
Huckabee 4%
Daniels 2%
Santorum 2%
Thune 2%
Barbour 1%


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: TheGreatOne on February 20, 2010, 05:33:11 PM
2,400 people voted this year, which is larger than last year. 


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 20, 2010, 05:33:28 PM
hahahahaha, that's hilarious.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 05:40:05 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 20, 2010, 05:40:55 PM


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: xavier110 on February 20, 2010, 05:41:09 PM
LMAO. WHAT.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 20, 2010, 05:44:55 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 05:46:03 PM
link (http://66.147.244.188/%7Econserz8/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2-10-CPAC-Straw-Poll-Final-Compatibility-Mode.pdf)

Ron Paul 31%

Mitt Romney 22%

Sarah Palin 7%

Tim Pawlenty 6%

Mike Pence 5%

Newt Gingrich 4%

Mike Huckabee 4%

Mitch Daniels 2%

Rick Santorum 2%

John Thune 2%

Haley Barbour 1%


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: CatoMinor on February 20, 2010, 05:49:46 PM
Fixed


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: The Mikado on February 20, 2010, 05:50:31 PM
Gary Johnson must be so pissed.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 20, 2010, 05:53:07 PM
And there goes a lot of Ron Paul's credibility....


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 20, 2010, 05:55:02 PM
And there goes a lot of Ron Paul's credibility....

I know. Paul must feel horrifically insulted. :/


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 05:55:29 PM
Incidentally, here are the results from last year:

http://www.gop12.com/2010/02/ron-paul-shocks-em-wins-2010-cpac-straw.html

1. Mitt Romney 20%

2. Bobby Jindal 14%

3. Ron Paul 13%

3. Sarah Palin 13%

5. Newt Gingrich 10%

6. Mike Huckabee 7%

7. Mark Sanford 4%

8. Rudy Giuliani 3%

9. Tim Pawlenty 2%

10. Charlie Crist 1%


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 20, 2010, 05:56:39 PM
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I seriously just laughed so hard I almost cried. I guess more libertarians were in attendance then prior years, or something. It ain't a legit trend, that's for sure. Still funny though, Still funny.


He didn't even make the cut, lol. Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty both epically failed here.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 20, 2010, 06:01:42 PM
Hey, at least it's not Willard :)


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: The Mikado on February 20, 2010, 06:11:47 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.

Much as I don't like Ron Paul, an Obama/Paul general election campaign would be the most interesting thing in American Electoral History.  Move over, 1836!  See you, 1912!  Hasta la vista, 1968!  2012's in town!


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 06:14:04 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.

Much as I don't like Ron Paul, an Obama/Paul general election campaign would be the most interesting thing in American Electoral History.  Move over, 1836!  See you, 1912!  Hasta la vista, 1968!  2012's in town!

Oh it would certainly be interesting, I'll grant you that...


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 20, 2010, 06:51:58 PM

Yes but Willard did beat Huck 5 to 1. :P


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 20, 2010, 06:59:20 PM

Obviously that's a bad thing, but Willard still didn't win and I guess that's what matters :P


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 20, 2010, 07:01:10 PM

Obviously that's a bad thing, but Willard still didn't win and I guess that's what matters :P

Among those the candidates that matter he won. And he got more support this year then last. :P


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 20, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
Lord have mercy on the Republican Party. The only redeeming sign from this is that Palin got only 7%


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on February 20, 2010, 07:04:52 PM

Obviously that's a bad thing, but Willard still didn't win and I guess that's what matters :P

Among those the candidates that matter he won. And he got more support this year then last. :P

*FACEPALM*

It's like everyone who's not Romney "doesn't matter" to you--especially if they're doing better than Romney ::)


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 20, 2010, 07:11:32 PM

Obviously that's a bad thing, but Willard still didn't win and I guess that's what matters :P

Among those the candidates that matter he won. And he got more support this year then last. :P

*FACEPALM*

It's like everyone who's not Romney "doesn't matter" to you--especially if they're doing better than Romney ::)

You are an idiot and you are confusing me with Tmth, NiK or Winfield. :P

Paul doesn't matter. Name me a singal primary where he came close to winning? Huck, Palin, Romney, and the new candidates running are the only ones that are relevant because they a large following or could get a large following.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Jensen on February 20, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
That's great, or something, but really... Really... I have a part of me [small part? possibly] that has me thinking... What Americans want a 75 year old man reminiscing about the good old days of George Washington and the Constitution to lead America into the future? The American populace is looking for progress and modernization. We want America to be vibrant and alive. Ron Paul just doesn't offer that. He's conservative on social issues meaning he won't even appeal to a lot of civil libertarians (as I would call myself). The only libertarian qualifications he is that separate him from the pack are opposing the war and PATRIOT Act and torture. These issues are simply not prominent concerns for Americans right now. Americans want to restore economic prosperity and finally reach equality. Paul just doesn't have the set of views that appeal to this group.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 07:19:06 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33225.html

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As the results were displayed on twin large screens in the ballroom – and even before Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio could announce who won – a cascade of boos came down from a crowd that views Paul and his fervent supporters as an irritant. Paul’s supporters responded with cheers, though, when their candidate was then proclaimed by Fabrizio as the winner.

CPAC organizers were plainly embarrassed by the results, which could reduce the perceived impact of a contest that was once thought to offer a window into which White House hopefuls were favored by movement conservatives.

A spokesman for the conference rushed over to reporters following the announcement to make sure they had heard the unmistakable boos when the screen first showed Paul had won the straw poll.
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While Palin’s decision not to attend the conference may have impacted her single-digit showing, her modest finish underscores the degree to which she is not seen as a serious presidential contender by the most attuned activists in her own party.

Even though he and his aides sought to downplay the poll, Pawlenty’s finish represents a disappointment for the 2012 Republican who has worked the most aggressively in the last year to make a name in party circles. Besides Romney, Pawlenty is the only potential candidate with the makings of a campaign infrastructure.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: segwaystyle2012 on February 20, 2010, 07:20:56 PM
What Americans want a 75 year old man reminiscing about the good old days of George Washington and the Constitution to lead America into the future?

Paul's supporters grow in number each day.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Psychic Octopus on February 20, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
What Americans want a 75 year old man reminiscing about the good old days of George Washington and the Constitution to lead America into the future?

Paul's supporters grow in number each day.

For some reason when you posted that I got the "Empire" music from Star Wars stuck in my head.



Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 07:24:32 PM
That's great, or something, but really... Really... I have a part of me [small part? possibly] that has me thinking... What Americans want a 75 year old man reminiscing about the good old days of George Washington and the Constitution to lead America into the future? The American populace is looking for progress and modernization. We want America to be vibrant and alive. Ron Paul just doesn't offer that. He's conservative on social issues meaning he won't even appeal to a lot of civil libertarians (as I would call myself). The only libertarian qualifications he is that separate him from the pack are opposing the war and PATRIOT Act and torture. These issues are simply not prominent concerns for Americans right now. Americans want to restore economic prosperity and finally reach equality. Paul just doesn't have the set of views that appeal to this group.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: California8429 on February 20, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 20, 2010, 07:34:53 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.

LOL

Paul would have defeated Obama in 2008, and he could do so in 2012.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 20, 2010, 07:37:33 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.

LOL

Paul would have defeated Obama in 2008, and he could do so in 2012.

How?


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Eraserhead on February 20, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Like him or not, he was the only completely legitimate conservative in the running.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Eraserhead on February 20, 2010, 07:41:39 PM
Please oh please let the Republicans nominate Ron Paul in 2012. That would be one for the ages.

Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Obama lose to a 75 year old man. :D

Ron Paul is probably the only potential Republican candidate that's less electable than Sarah Palin.

LOL

Paul would have defeated Obama in 2008, and he could do so in 2012.

....


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 07:53:14 PM
Like him or not, he was the only completely legitimate conservative in the running.

He's certainly sincere, I can't deny, but he makes Kucinich look electable.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 20, 2010, 07:53:43 PM
Like him or not, he was the only completely legitimate conservative in the running.

He's certainly sincere, I can't deny, but he makes Kucinich look electable.

Um, no. Paul is far more electable than Kucinich.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Oakvale on February 20, 2010, 07:55:28 PM
Like him or not, he was the only completely legitimate conservative in the running.

He's certainly sincere, I can't deny, but he makes Kucinich look electable.

Um, no. Paul is far more electable than Kucinich.

Okay, about as electable. Both appeal to a vocal fringe element of their party.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Poundingtherock on February 20, 2010, 08:17:58 PM
Uh, Palin declined an invitation to speak at CPAC.

So why is it surprising that Romney did better?  The crowd at CPAC isn't her base.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Eraserhead on February 20, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33225.html

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As the results were displayed on twin large screens in the ballroom – and even before Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio could announce who won – a cascade of boos came down from a crowd that views Paul and his fervent supporters as an irritant. Paul’s supporters responded with cheers, though, when their candidate was then proclaimed by Fabrizio as the winner.

CPAC organizers were plainly embarrassed by the results, which could reduce the perceived impact of a contest that was once thought to offer a window into which White House hopefuls were favored by movement conservatives.

A spokesman for the conference rushed over to reporters following the announcement to make sure they had heard the unmistakable boos when the screen first showed Paul had won the straw poll.
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While Palin’s decision not to attend the conference may have impacted her single-digit showing, her modest finish underscores the degree to which she is not seen as a serious presidential contender by the most attuned activists in her own party.

Even though he and his aides sought to downplay the poll, Pawlenty’s finish represents a disappointment for the 2012 Republican who has worked the most aggressively in the last year to make a name in party circles. Besides Romney, Pawlenty is the only potential candidate with the makings of a campaign infrastructure.


Is there a video of this?


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Vepres on February 20, 2010, 08:41:16 PM
I doubt McCain did well in the 2007 poll ;)


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33225.html

Quote
As the results were displayed on twin large screens in the ballroom – and even before Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio could announce who won – a cascade of boos came down from a crowd that views Paul and his fervent supporters as an irritant. Paul’s supporters responded with cheers, though, when their candidate was then proclaimed by Fabrizio as the winner.

CPAC organizers were plainly embarrassed by the results, which could reduce the perceived impact of a contest that was once thought to offer a window into which White House hopefuls were favored by movement conservatives.

A spokesman for the conference rushed over to reporters following the announcement to make sure they had heard the unmistakable boos when the screen first showed Paul had won the straw poll.
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While Palin’s decision not to attend the conference may have impacted her single-digit showing, her modest finish underscores the degree to which she is not seen as a serious presidential contender by the most attuned activists in her own party.

Even though he and his aides sought to downplay the poll, Pawlenty’s finish represents a disappointment for the 2012 Republican who has worked the most aggressively in the last year to make a name in party circles. Besides Romney, Pawlenty is the only potential candidate with the makings of a campaign infrastructure.


Is there a video of this?

Here is a 4 hour+ video from CPAC:

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/02/20/HP/R/29840/CPAC+wraps+up+annual+meeting.aspx

If you skip ahead to the 3hour 7min mark, you can see them unveiling the straw poll results, including all the boos.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 08:52:01 PM

2007 CPAC straw poll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPAC_Straw_Poll

Mitt Romney-21%
Rudy Giuliani-17%
Sam Brownback-15%
Newt Gingrich-14%
John McCain-12%

Oh, and George Allen won the 2006 straw poll, w/ McCain a close 2nd place.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Poundingtherock on February 20, 2010, 09:02:25 PM
But did McCain speak at CPAC in 2007 and 2006?


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 20, 2010, 09:10:55 PM
But did McCain speak at CPAC in 2007 and 2006?

Nope.  He didn't show up at CPAC until 2008.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Eraserhead on February 20, 2010, 09:12:05 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33225.html

Quote
As the results were displayed on twin large screens in the ballroom – and even before Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio could announce who won – a cascade of boos came down from a crowd that views Paul and his fervent supporters as an irritant. Paul’s supporters responded with cheers, though, when their candidate was then proclaimed by Fabrizio as the winner.

CPAC organizers were plainly embarrassed by the results, which could reduce the perceived impact of a contest that was once thought to offer a window into which White House hopefuls were favored by movement conservatives.

A spokesman for the conference rushed over to reporters following the announcement to make sure they had heard the unmistakable boos when the screen first showed Paul had won the straw poll.
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While Palin’s decision not to attend the conference may have impacted her single-digit showing, her modest finish underscores the degree to which she is not seen as a serious presidential contender by the most attuned activists in her own party.

Even though he and his aides sought to downplay the poll, Pawlenty’s finish represents a disappointment for the 2012 Republican who has worked the most aggressively in the last year to make a name in party circles. Besides Romney, Pawlenty is the only potential candidate with the makings of a campaign infrastructure.


Is there a video of this?

Here is a 4 hour+ video from CPAC:

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/02/20/HP/R/29840/CPAC+wraps+up+annual+meeting.aspx

If you skip ahead to the 3hour 7min mark, you can see them unveiling the straw poll results, including all the boos.


You are awesome.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Brandon H on February 21, 2010, 12:13:29 AM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Free Palestine on February 21, 2010, 12:44:50 AM
Ron Paul supporters lopsided the poll.  Mainstream conservatives don't believe in the Constitution or the founding principals they claim to stand for.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 21, 2010, 12:54:36 AM
Where's Gary Johnson?

Seriously, though, this is bad news for CPAC. I'd have just chopped 25% off his total if I were running the thing.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: 12th Doctor on February 21, 2010, 12:56:50 AM
What the....


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 21, 2010, 12:58:11 AM
Where's Gary Johnson?

Seriously, though, this is bad news for CPAC. I'd have just chopped 25% off his total if I were running the thing.

Really, its bad news for someone other than a neocon to win a CPAC straw poll? ???


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: TheGreatOne on February 21, 2010, 01:43:56 AM
Its used to be that Ron Paul supporters couldn't win a straw poll or any poll with 100% turnout.  I think this could be a game changer in the Republican Party.  Despite the Neo-conservative propaganda, the Libertarian movement is growing within.  They are getting larger.  They created the Tea Party events and probaby garner most of the young vote within the party.  Campaign for Liberty is more organized than any political action committee within the Republican Party, and the libertarian message is attracting voters who are intelligent, college-bound, and middle class.  These people have money and motivation.   If any other canidate such Romney, Huckabee or Palin had what Paul has, they would be completely unstoppable.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: rob in cal on February 21, 2010, 02:02:41 AM
A vote for Ron Paul represents a vote for an anti-war GOP, bringing the GOP toward the mainstream of American politics, against the neo-con cul de sac which helped destroy the GOP majority in 2006. Congrats to the straw voters of CPAC who "thought outside of the box" so to speak.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 21, 2010, 02:05:04 AM
A vote for Ron Paul represents a vote for an anti-war GOP, bringing the GOP toward the mainstream of American politics, against the neo-con cul de sac which helped destroy the GOP majority in 2006. Congrats to the straw voters of CPAC who "thought outside of the box" so to speak.

Hear, hear. :)


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: TheGreatOne on February 21, 2010, 02:05:45 AM
Where's Gary Johnson?

Seriously, though, this is bad news for CPAC. I'd have just chopped 25% off his total if I were running the thing.
You can basically assume that a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Gary Johnson.  Most people voting for Ron Paul aren't going to support Palin, Romney, Gingrich or Huckabee.  

Why would you guy 25% off?  Thankfully the people running this think have better  morals than you.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: nhmagic on February 21, 2010, 03:11:15 AM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?
Beck was incredible though.  It was the corrolary to Reagan's Morning in America theme.  He talked about the depression of 1920 which Coolidge ended by cutting both taxes and spending by 50%.  It also railed on Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover and discussed the evils of progressivism.  He also told the true story of the statue of liberty not taught in schools along with a story about the two George Washington portraits that were created.

CPAC has had two incredibly appropriate speakers over the last two years.  Rush was important to wipe the smirks off the newly elected administration's face and to discuss what they were planning.  Beck defined the greater enemy.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Zarn on February 21, 2010, 08:03:24 AM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?
Beck was incredible though.  It was the corrolary to Reagan's Morning in America theme.  He talked about the depression of 1920 which Coolidge ended by cutting both taxes and spending by 50%.  It also railed on Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover and discussed the evils of progressivism.  He also told the true story of the statue of liberty not taught in schools along with a story about the two George Washington portraits that were created.

CPAC has had two incredibly appropriate speakers over the last two years.  Rush was important to wipe the smirks off the newly elected administration's face and to discuss what they were planning.  Beck defined the greater enemy.

Both Beck and Rush are undermining the reform of the Republican party, by trying t keep the establishment in place. The same goes with Palin.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 21, 2010, 01:20:55 PM
Where's Gary Johnson?

Seriously, though, this is bad news for CPAC. I'd have just chopped 25% off his total if I were running the thing.
You can basically assume that a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Gary Johnson.  Most people voting for Ron Paul aren't going to support Palin, Romney, Gingrich or Huckabee. 

Why would you guy 25% off?  Thankfully the people running this think have better  morals than you.

Because this ruins any credibility the poll might have had.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Scam of God on February 21, 2010, 01:33:59 PM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?
Beck was incredible though.  It was the corrolary to Reagan's Morning in America theme.  He talked about the depression of 1920 which Coolidge ended by cutting both taxes and spending by 50%.  It also railed on Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover and discussed the evils of progressivism.  He also told the true story of the statue of liberty not taught in schools along with a story about the two George Washington portraits that were created.

CPAC has had two incredibly appropriate speakers over the last two years.  Rush was important to wipe the smirks off the newly elected administration's face and to discuss what they were planning.  Beck defined the greater enemy.

Both Beck and Rush are undermining the reform of the Republican party, by trying t keep the establishment in place. The same goes with Palin.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: nhmagic on February 21, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?
Beck was incredible though.  It was the corrolary to Reagan's Morning in America theme.  He talked about the depression of 1920 which Coolidge ended by cutting both taxes and spending by 50%.  It also railed on Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover and discussed the evils of progressivism.  He also told the true story of the statue of liberty not taught in schools along with a story about the two George Washington portraits that were created.

CPAC has had two incredibly appropriate speakers over the last two years.  Rush was important to wipe the smirks off the newly elected administration's face and to discuss what they were planning.  Beck defined the greater enemy.

Both Beck and Rush are undermining the reform of the Republican party, by trying t keep the establishment in place. The same goes with Palin.
I didnt say anything about Palin.  Beck has never been in favor of the establishment - he has embarked on multiple flirtation with third party stuff.  I guess you could say Rush is part of the establishment because hes been around for awhile, but neither of the two really favor the republican establishment (dont tax and spend-sign on with the progressive agenda).

Have you ever listened to Rush before for an extended period of time?- I don't know many people with an econ score like yours disagreeing with him.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on February 21, 2010, 02:17:11 PM
so, CPAC is loony.


Title: Re: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll
Post by: Zarn on February 23, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
Glenn Beck was speaking prior to that (or maybe after) and the Paul supporters weren't planning on watching Beck because of his treatment of Debra Medina. So there were plenty of Romney and few Paul supporters in the room when the were reading the results.

As far Obama vs. Paul, how's that change working out, particularly with the war in Iraq?
Beck was incredible though.  It was the corrolary to Reagan's Morning in America theme.  He talked about the depression of 1920 which Coolidge ended by cutting both taxes and spending by 50%.  It also railed on Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover and discussed the evils of progressivism.  He also told the true story of the statue of liberty not taught in schools along with a story about the two George Washington portraits that were created.

CPAC has had two incredibly appropriate speakers over the last two years.  Rush was important to wipe the smirks off the newly elected administration's face and to discuss what they were planning.  Beck defined the greater enemy.

Both Beck and Rush are undermining the reform of the Republican party, by trying t keep the establishment in place. The same goes with Palin.
I didnt say anything about Palin.  Beck has never been in favor of the establishment - he has embarked on multiple flirtation with third party stuff.  I guess you could say Rush is part of the establishment because hes been around for awhile, but neither of the two really favor the republican establishment (dont tax and spend-sign on with the progressive agenda).

Have you ever listened to Rush before for an extended period of time?- I don't know many people with an econ score like yours disagreeing with him.

They pretend to have principles, but then the sell out at every turn. It's too obvious.