Talk Elections

Going off of the other successful Alternate Universes, I’ve decided to create a future one for the 2016 election. Barack Obama has been elected to a second term. There is a Republican House and a Republican Senate, though both are extremely close and nothing can get done without bi-partisan corporation. We are completely out of Iraq, and mostly out of Afghanistan. The Taliban has been defeated, but Al Qaeda hasn't. There are growing tensions between Iran, and Israel which both have nuclear weapons. Obamacare has little effect, and social security is an issue. Unemployement at 6 percent. Growing tensions with North Korea. Social Security is also a big issue.

We will start January of 2015. I will post monthly polls and maps, you made not decide your own endorsements, you make request it to me.

How the primaries will work out. (From a random lot minus the first states)
Early January 2012: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada
Late January: Florida, Maine, Hawaii
Early February: Arkansas, Indiana, Colorado, North Dakota, Vermont
Late February: Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Rhode Island
Late February: Idaho, New York, Virginia, Illinois, Delaware, D.C.
Early March: Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina
Late March: Massachusetts, Texas, Alaska, Pennsylvania
Early April: New Mexico, Louisiana, Connecticut
Late April: Missouri, California, South Dakota, Michigan, Tennessee
Early May: Wisconsin, Utah, Maryland
Late May: Kansas, West Virginia, New Jersey
Early June: Alabama, Wyoming, Nebraska
Late June: Montana, Mississippi, Kentucky
Republican Convention Late-August
Democratic Convention Early-September

PM me or post here to be whatever candidate you’d like, Republican or Democrat. Here are some suggestions if you for some reason can’t think of any.

Democrats
Hillary Clinton- SE Lt. Gov tb75
Andrew Cuomo- Rochambeau
Russ Feingold- Hubert Humphrey
Alexi Giannoulias- sirnick
Sherrord Brown- Eleden
Al Gore
Bill Richardson
Mark Udall
Tim Kaine
Ed Rendell
Evan Bayh
Dennis Kucinich

Republicans
Sue Lowden- Tmthforu94
Bobby Jindal- hantheguitarman
Scott Brown- justW353
Sarah Palin- Sewer Socialist
Eric Cantor- A-bob
Bill Brady- yougo1000
Christopher Shays- Giovanni
Rand Paul- Dallasfan65
Tim Pawlenty
Mitch Daniels
Rick Santorum
John Thune
Mitt Romney
Pat Toomey
Charlie Crist
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Jane Norton

I want to be Hillary.

Okay!

What was the Republican ticket in 2012?

Romney/Pawlenty

Obama won by 4 points.

Generic Ballot
Democrat 46%
Republican 45%

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What's the green?

tossup

 I hit a squirrel it changed my life will be Sue Lowden (NV) via PM.

:)
You might want to change it to just Tmthforu94, as my name will have changed at least once before this is all said and done. ;)

done

I'd like to be Bobby Jindal!

okay

I'm hesitant to do this Alt Universe (I don't really care for future Alts), but...

Can I be Governor Scott Brown of Massachusetts? (reelected to Senate in 2012, elected Governor in 2014)

sure

and, everyone you may request for state polling on this thread
I will post them along with monthly national polls.

Put down justW353, not Senator Ted Kennedy, please.  I'll have changed my name by the time this is done, but I'll always have justW353 as a subname.

I will take Sarah Palin.

done

issue updates

1. Obama has a 45% approval rating

2. the deficit has grown worse

3. Gay marriage is now also legal in Maine, Oregon, Nevada, New York

Abortion and gun control the same


EDIT- Sewer is Palin

I want to play Andrew Cuomo.

alright

Thank you.

I will open the gameplay thread when there are at least three players on each party. You may continue to request to join until we get to December 2011.

Eric Cantor, as long as I'm Speaker ;)

hey our primary dates look the same! :D looks like the DNC and RNC thought the new 2012 schedule worked well

sure

lol, I'm too lazy to come up with my own.

Out of curiousity, what did the 2012 map on Election Day look like?

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hey get jane norton off that list :P

she's too dumb to win the presidency

sure she could pull off a senate run hidding 24/7 from voters and just playing commericals...but president she would die and I would laugh

not to mention Buck won the caucus in case you didn't know

wait could I be Governor Dan Maes of Colorado ? :D

I will be Russ Feingold!

Hmm, I would love to be Andrew Cuomo but someone grabbed him already...

Senator Alexi Giannoulias of Illinois?

I choose Governor Bill Brady of Illinois

A-bob- no, he isn't even on wikipedia

Hubert Humphrey- sure
Sirnick- sure
yougo1000- sure

I will make gameplay thread now
you make continue to request candidates and tstae polls.

he got 40% at the caucus last month, he's a viable candidate

still no

as Speaker with a Republican Congress did we repeal ObamaCare?

republicans won congress in 2014, and seeing health care was not very effective it was largly ignored to review other things

How was it ineffective?  Did it magically not give healthcare to millions of Americans?

I'm not following that one.

One other thing; how do we request endorsements?  Is John McCain still alive?  If so, I request him (come on, you know he can't stand Palin OTL)

Can I request Iowa right off the bat?

yeah

lulz

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How do we request endorsements?  If we just do it here, I'd like to request a few before anyone else can.

request endorsements via PM

Sarah Palin is now out of the race.

Health Care did insure some americans, but it was not nearly as effective as republicans and democrats has argued.

Has the Employee Free Choice Act been passed?

Also, what's the state of Wall Street regulation?

Cap-and-Trade?

What's the unemployment percentage?

I'd like to request New Hampshire polling.

Can I be Christopher Shays?

1. The Employee Free Choice Act was not passed.

2. Wallstreet is doing well at the moment.

3. Cap and Trade was passed, 6% as said in post #1, ok.

If you want to, he'll be 72 in 2016.

please note, that it is not too late to sign up

I'm assuming these endorsements were approved.  I was under the impression that we couldn't campaign with our endorsers (or acknowledge their endorsements) until polling was released.

Also, is John McCain still a Senator?

My endorsements were approved.

My endorsements were approved.

I was under this impression too, until people started introducing their endorsements in the thread. John McCain is still a senator.

My endorsements were approved, but I didn't know that we couldn't campaign with our endorsers (or acknowledge their endorsements) until polling was released. So I'm really sorry if I set off something. I'll hold off on releasing any more endorsements until further polling is released.

It's okay, you're new here and I should have been more clear about the endorsements. :)

Remember that you can still sign up, and state polls for February. 4-5 max

I think they were already requested, but I would like to see polling from Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, and Ohio.

I'd like to see polling from Maine, South Carolina, Nevada, and Hawaii.

I would like to see Nevada and California, please.

Would it be possible to see a map of Republican polling now that Eric Cantor's in the race?

On Sunday, with the Febraury polling.

Current National Republican Polls

Cantor 24%
Jindal 17%
Brown 11%
Lowden 9%
Brady 6%
Not 33%

How am I in Illinois

Eleden is Sherrord Brown via pm.

I find it extremely unrealistic that Nancy and Michael Reagan would endorse different candidates. The chances, really, are slim to none. I have no clue whose was accepted first, but I think the person who requested one of them first should get to keep theirs, personally. So if you could clarify, ElectoralJew, which person asked for "their Reagan" first. If I was beat to it, I will be very willing to withdraw my Nancy Reagan endorsement, simply because I want this game to be as realistic as possible.

you got it first

I do remember reading somewhere that Nancy and Michael Reagan don't like each other, and that they don't get along. If this is true, then I think it's fine if Nancy and Michael Reagan endorse different candidates. OTL Ron Reagan and Nancy Reagan endorsed different candidates for the 2008 Presidential Election (and in former elections). Nevertheless, if you guys want me to, I'll withdraw my Michael Reagan endorsement.

remember to request for March state polling, so far there are no requests

tomorrow is march

Deleted it. Can I have Iowa's polling? And what's the nationwide polling?

tomorooowwww =]

It's entirely your decision, I won't hold anything against you, obviously. I just personally would find it strange for members of a political family endorsing different opponents.

Will there be any debates between the candidates?

yeah, in june, september, and december.
Note- June is the deadline for personal requests for endorsements.

OK, I'll keep it if that's the case, because Ron Reagan, who is Nancy's actual son publicly endorsed Barack Obama while Nancy Reagan publicly endorsed John McCain, so I can believe that Nancy's adopted son (and I don't think she had too too much to do with raising him) would endorse another son than Nancy.

I've decided to do march polling tonight instead, due to Brady's suspension.

yougo1000 and I have agreed that I can use his character now that he has endorsed me, but that he will use his character too.

okay then

April polling tomorrow
still no state requests

Iowa
Ohio
Florida
Arizona
New Hampshire

Hm, despite the fact that Jindal endorses me, why did Cantor win just about as much support as I did from it? I went up 10%, while he went up 8%. You would think from the polling numbers Jindal endorsed both of us.

Conservative voters that don't want a women president. And alot of southerners

Cantor's a Representative.  When is the last time a Representative had a lead in the primaries.  Scott Brown is a national name, Sue Lowden will be once she beats Reid...I'm detecting some bias here to be honest.

Cantor is Speaker of the House in this alt. The speaker that won back the reublicans congress.

Eric Cantor is the Speaker of the House in this if you looked at the sign-up, he would have more ID than Lowden

The same conservative voters that rallied behind Palin in `08 and would rally behind her again in 2012? I have never seen any reason to believe a woman conservative couldn't win in the South. If it was Romney vs. Palin in `12, Palin would win almost every state down there.

Conservative voters that don't want a woman president probably wouldn't have supported Bobby Jindal, an Indian.

BTW, it's nothing personal A-Bob, lol.

The Argument makes sense if you didn't know that Eric Cantor was Speaker of the House in this universe

true. You guys should read what he signed up as though first before you complain.

I'm not complaining about that. I just think it's unfair and questionable that Cantor got just as much of a bump as Lowden did from Jindal endorsing Lowden.

you got a larger bump. You act like your twenty points behind.

Wow, I got a 10 point bump, he got an 8 point bump. I'd be fine with that if Jindal just dropped out. But he also endorsed me.

And remember that was just one straw poll. Straw Polls in this alt are more likely to favor the more conservative candidates. It wasn't an average of several polls.

Very well.
One last thing, though: Lowden is a conservative candidate

I know, but Cantor is known as a very conservative candidate. Lowden is not as deeply conservative.

Okay, fine. Brown and I will just have to fight through the bias that is taking place.

There is no bias... Just remember that you are fighting a popular Speaker of House. That's alot bigger than a regular representitive.

I posted the average polling, Post-Jindal

Thank you

Don't base everything off of one poll. For example, there was a WV poll in 2008 that had Obama up by 8, and look what happened.

And Polling map. Official May polling is out Thursday. I think we need the democrats to start getting more active.

The democrats need to get more active. And you can still sign up.

Remember to request for polling if you want it. May is on Thursday.

Polling request for Iowa, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Michigan.

Requesting Kansas

Requesting California, Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, and Michigan

tomorrow is june polling
still no requests or posts

we need somebody to post in the gameplay thread.

june polling is out.
remember it is never too late to sign up, and to request state polls for july

How is that polling possible in Ohio? I was leading in the state and this month I'm in third and double digits down...I campaigned in Ohio

You went up two points in ohio since the last time I polled it. Lowden picked it up because she campaigned there too. Ohio is a three way anyway since the beginning. And you didn't go to Ohio between May and June polls.

Before I post July Polling, make a state poll request if you want it.

Kansas

July is out. Request for August state polls now before you all forget.

Request polling for: Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois

Polling requests for:

California
Iowa
New Hampshire
South Carolina
Michigan
Nevada

October polling will be out on Wednsday. We should get Iowa results by the twenty second.

These poll requests weren't included in the September release.  Would it be possible to get these included also?  If not I certainly understand.

I combine the requests from all the players. Iowa was the only state that had two people request it.

Ah, ok.

And anybody reading these that has not yet joined, please do because there are only two weeks left.

Can I switch to Gore?

No, but you can relaunch your campaign as Brady

We need more Democrats!!!

I can do both! :P

Too late for me to jump in?

I'd like to be Rand Paul, if I can.

If it was too late too jump in, why would I be begging people to jump in? :P

Polling requests:

California
Iowa
Nevada
New Hampshire
South Carolina
Michigan
Florida

Hopefully my fellow players can second these polling requests. :)

I will only poll 5 at the most. Take out two.

Michigan and Florida

Illinois?

Republicans are good , but we need democrats.
There is only one active democrat in the game.

Hubert Humphrey has agreed to let me use Russ Feingold in future campaign posts. 

k

November polling is on Sunday.

Where's the gameplay thread, and what stage are we at?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=113985.165

November 2015

Any state poll requests???

I'll gladly second any poll requests any of my Republican players mention. 

Maine and New Jersey
Could we also get hypothetical head-to-head national polling?

Illinois

I will start doing those with January results.
Btw, once the primaries start, you can still make polling requests.

Maine
New Jersey
Illinois

Iowa is tomorrow.

ANY DEMOCRATS JOIN NOW


you can request state polls for January

any poll requests?

IL

Any others? Remember, Super Tuesday is this month.

California

state poll requests

Requesting state polls for: New Jersey, Connecticut, Indiana, Nevada

Eleden, aren't you being a little too presumptious on Sue Lowden's voting record?

I can see where you're coming from, but I'm basing my statements off of the attitudes of Senate Republicans and the positions of Sue Lowden herself.  She's clearly in opposition of President Obama's agenda so it makes sense that she'd vote no on reform legislation proposed by the Democrats.

Being presumptuous is my only option really.  Sue Lowden isn't a Senator at the moment, so I don't have a voting record to base my statements off of.  You on the other hand have years of votes you could use with Senator Brown. 

That's what you get for picking Brown. ;)

No fair! ;)  I should have picked an obscure State Senator with no voting record. 

Requesting State Polls: Illinois, North Carolina, Louisiana, Texas

Due to finals and an upcoming vacation I'll no longer be able to participate for a while.  If someone would like to take my place that's fine or we could put this on hold until I'm free again in like a month.

If Tmth94 agress, we can put the game on hold for a month. I have finals too.

That kind of stinks for me. I'm completely free for the next month, but will be gone in later July.

R u guys ready to return to this now?

I leave Thursday for Georgia.

When r u gonna be back?

August...
I guess we could do a quick month this week, then could we put it on hold till August?

yeah, if Brown agrees

R u both ready now???

I am now ready. ;)