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Election Archive => 2010 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Oakvale on October 28, 2010, 07:47:51 AM



Title: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Oakvale on October 28, 2010, 07:47:51 AM
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/28/miller_plummets_in_alaska.html

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A new Hays Research poll in Alaska shows Scott McAdams (D) surging ahead of Joe Miller (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 29% to 23%, allowing the unnamed write-in candidate -- most of which are presumably for Sen. Lisa Murkowski -- to lead the contest with 34%, with undecided voters still at 13%.

"With a 68% disapproval rating, and Miller's trend line looking like the flight of the Hindenberg even before the latest scandal hit the news, the chances of him actually pulling it off and winning this election are slim."

This is certainly an interesting race.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 28, 2010, 07:52:38 AM
After factoring in the write-in penalty, McAdams might actually be leading this race.  How did the survey treat Murkowski?  Was there no prompting whatsoever?


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Oakvale on October 28, 2010, 07:54:21 AM
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“If the election for U.S. Senate were held today, and the candidates were Joe Miller, Scott McAdams, Frederick Haase, Tim Carter, Ted Gianoutsos, or another candidate you have to write in, for whom would you vote, or are you undecided?

Seems like a decent way to ask the question.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SPQR on October 28, 2010, 07:57:24 AM
AHAHAHAHHAAH...I would just love to see Boxer or Murray lose and then McAdams win to make it GOP+9.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on October 28, 2010, 08:01:06 AM
Not to be, um, skeptical ... but I definitely want to see another poll here.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on October 28, 2010, 08:02:47 AM
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“If the election for U.S. Senate were held today, and the candidates were Joe Miller, Scott McAdams, Frederick Haase, Tim Carter, Ted Gianoutsos, or another candidate you have to write in, for whom would you vote, or are you undecided?

Seems like a decent way to ask the question.

They treated the question of "how do you poll Murkowski" well, but I disagree that it's a well-constructed poll question in general. They failed to attach party designations to the names, and that's a glaring omission.

On edit: It appears that this is not the first time their polling has shown Miller in third.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 28, 2010, 08:22:46 AM
ROFL


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on October 28, 2010, 08:34:15 AM
If this flips Dem, this will officially be the most hilarious election cycle this century.:P


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Whacker77 on October 28, 2010, 08:37:04 AM
What is Hays Research's history and do they usually poll for one party or another?


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on October 28, 2010, 08:41:02 AM
I've seen some pretty absurd polls, but this one takes the cake!


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Oakvale on October 28, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
I've seen some pretty absurd polls, but this one takes the cake!

I don't think so, really. Miller has ran one of the worst campaigns since Martha Coakley, and is, uh, a flawed candidate, to put it lightly.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Whacker77 on October 28, 2010, 08:50:50 AM
Miller is terribly flawed, but if Murkowski throws this race away due to her own vanity she should be punished.  I like what happened to William Wallace.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 28, 2010, 08:55:29 AM
Not to be, um, skeptical ... but I definitely want to see another poll here.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Sam Spade on October 28, 2010, 08:57:02 AM
What is Hays Research's history and do they usually poll for one party or another?

Go check 2008 Presidential elections polling board


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: DrScholl on October 28, 2010, 08:57:44 AM
Now this is very interesting.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: tpfkaw on October 28, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
What is Hays Research's history and do they usually poll for one party or another?

Go check 2008 Presidential elections polling board

They had McCain and Obama statistically tied in Alaska on November 2nd.

LOLOLOLOL.

Why they hell is this even in the database?


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: mypalfish on October 28, 2010, 09:47:10 AM
Looks like it's a poll of adults, not even registered voters.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on October 28, 2010, 10:30:13 AM
This might turn out to be the Hawaii presidential race of 2004, real close to flipping to the other party. I really, really hope McAdams can win this.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 28, 2010, 10:39:17 AM
I could go ask six people on the street how they feel about the race and it would be about as legitimate as this "poll."


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Meeker on October 28, 2010, 11:40:41 AM
The poll obviously has a lot of... issues... but I wouldn't be too surprised if Miller started nosediving. Even Alaskans can only take so much crazy. Hopefully someone else polls here before Tuesday.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SvenssonRS on October 28, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
Lolno. Just lolno.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 28, 2010, 12:16:33 PM
Looks like it's a poll of adults, not even registered voters.

     A poll of adults for an election in five days? Now that's pointless.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Tender Branson on October 28, 2010, 01:04:49 PM
Here´s the release:

http://www.haysresearch.com/page2/page30/page30.html

They did 4 seperate polls with 500 Likely Voters each and Miller is going down rapidely and McAdams up sharply.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SPQR on October 28, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
LMAO @ Miller's disapprovals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Dgov on October 28, 2010, 02:18:49 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Sbane on October 28, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Murkowski wins. Don't know why the Democrats are celebrating though. Miller is precisely the sort of person you want in the senate so you can sh**t on them non stop.

But then again the Democrats are pussies and would probably fail at even that so nevermind.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SPQR on October 28, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Dgov on October 28, 2010, 02:28:39 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.
That's what I meant too . . .


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Sbane on October 28, 2010, 02:37:26 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.
That's what I meant too . . .

Miller's dissaprovals are completely understandable. The guy has a freaking militia that takes down reporters that ask questions. I don't think even normal Republicans like that kind of stuff.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 28, 2010, 02:48:39 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Murkowski wins. Don't know why the Democrats are celebrating though. Miller is precisely the sort of person you want in the senate so you can sh**t on them non stop.

But then again the Democrats are pussies and would probably fail at even that so nevermind.

     I think the Democrats are hoping that people forget about writing a candidate in & just vote for McAdams.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 28, 2010, 03:03:38 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.

Unfavorables, not disapprovals.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SPQR on October 28, 2010, 03:16:23 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.

Unfavorables, not disapprovals.

Yeah,true.
"Disapprovals" is used exclusively when someone is in office,right? Man I need to practice my english more...


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 28, 2010, 03:25:33 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.

Unfavorables, not disapprovals.

Yeah,true.
"Disapprovals" is used exclusively when someone is in office,right? Man I need to practice my english more...

It has nothing to do with knowing English. Almost everyone outside of the political sphere probably don't know the difference between "disapproval" and "unfavorable." You just need to brush up on your American political lingo.  :P


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 28, 2010, 03:53:45 PM
LMAO @ Miller's approvals.
He's just a senate candidate and he is in >60% range.

Wow.  And people are taking this poll seriously?
I meant disapprovals ;)
Which is exactly why I was laughing.

Unfavorables, not disapprovals.

Yeah,true.
"Disapprovals" is used exclusively when someone is in office,right? Man I need to practice my english more...

"Approval" = I approve of the job so-and-so is doing in office (and it doesn't really have any meaning for someone not in office)
"Favorable" = I have a favorable impression of so-and-so

They usually track pretty closely, but they don't have to.  For example, in the later years of the Clinton administration, people thought he did a good job as prez, but that he was scum in his personal life.  So his job approval #s were markedly higher than his favorability.

Of course, about 80% of the forum seems oblivious to the distinction (regardless of what their native language is), and this is a political board!  I just brought it up because I'm nitpicky.  :)


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: SPQR on October 28, 2010, 04:02:44 PM
Thanks for correcting me anyway...one never stops learning ;)


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on October 28, 2010, 05:16:32 PM
I guess you could look at the trendlines to see movement?

But yes, this is trash.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: cinyc on October 28, 2010, 06:05:07 PM
This poll was paid for (http://community.adn.com/adn/node/153984) by IBEW Local 1547, which has backed McAdams.  Caveat emptor.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on October 28, 2010, 11:44:04 PM
This is one of the few bright spots for the Democrats. How many voters will get the polling place and decide not to vote for Murkowski because she's not on the ballot?


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Eraserhead on October 29, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
The GOP establishment seems to be coming to the conclusion that Murkowski can win. Of course, they'd be fine with this and in fact prefer it.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Nichlemn on October 29, 2010, 08:42:05 AM
AHAHAHAHHAAH...I would just love to see Boxer or Murray lose and then McAdams win to make it GOP+9.

I'd to see control of the Senate come down to the intent of write-in voters. It'd be Lizard People x1000.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on October 29, 2010, 08:46:39 AM
I've seen some pretty absurd polls, but this one takes the cake!

I don't think so, really. Miller has ran one of the worst campaigns since Martha Coakley, and is, uh, a flawed candidate, to put it lightly.

I predict that Miller will win this one going away, with the Democrat and the bitch fighting it out for a distant second.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2010, 11:15:52 AM
Miller is probably the most disgusting candidate the Republicans nominated this year (and that is saying a lot), so it'll be nice to see him go down.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 29, 2010, 11:21:06 AM
Miller is probably the most disgusting candidate the Republicans nominated this year (and that is saying a lot), so it'll be nice to see him go down.

Someone didn't read the "poll."  ;)


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2010, 11:23:26 AM
Miller is probably the most disgusting candidate the Republicans nominated this year (and that is saying a lot), so it'll be nice to see him go down.

Someone didn't read the "poll."  ;)

Oh, haha. I still wouldn't be surprised at all if he were in 3rd place right now, considering he's had nothing but scandal after scandal the past two weeks.


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: ajc0918 on October 29, 2010, 11:47:51 AM
I read that the AK Supreme Court decided to pass out a list of write in candidates at polling places.
If this is true, it shoud help Murkowski...


Title: Re: AK: Hays Research: Miller drops to third place, Murkowski leads McAdams by 5
Post by: cinyc on October 29, 2010, 12:48:14 PM
I read that the AK Supreme Court decided to pass out a list of write in candidates at polling places.
If this is true, it shoud help Murkowski...

From what I understand, they TEMPORARILY allowed it pending hearing of oral arguments, which are scheduled for today.  As of right now, the votes of those who asked for the list are being segregated.  But elections officials claim that logistically can't be done on election day.